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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#61 » by Minnamaker » Wed Mar 1, 2023 7:36 am

I think I'm the only one staying positive here. This was meant to be a loss. We played the hottest team in the league (fully healthy) that just happens to have the best record and the best rated defense in the league. I thought we gave them a good fight. First half was great, second half we ran out of gas and took bad shots with less ball movement. We lack a player who can give us tough buckets when the offense doesn't flow. Dinwiddie tries, but he probably shouldn't.

I'm not mad at this loss. I thought we looked better. It's tough that we had our 18/20 streak against a very easy schedule and now lost our best players with the toughest schedule coming up. I don't think we need to tank, cause we will lose anyway lol. I think they should try to gel and build something and get playoff atmosphere if possible. This is probably still our core going forward. I don't think they should learn to "intentionally" lose. I don't think it would be the right way to finish a season and it wouldn't help us much anyway.

I don't get the hate in Marks either. What should he have done differently? Bench everyone instead of trading so we don't have any talent, no picks and no trade leverage in the offseason whatsoever? He had one week to pull of the trades. It's clear as **** that you don't assemble a smooth and complete roster within one week after blowing it up lol. What do you expect? I still think we are in a good position. We have talent that other teams want. Damn, we have several wing defenders like for the first time ever. And we have a ton of picks. The problem is, not a lot of teams want to blow it up. We won't ever be able to trade for a guy like Luca, except if he asks for it and none of the big names seem to be close of asking out (let alone ask to be traded to us). Then there might be some allstars we could get and I would try for the right price (lavine, beal, siakam, who knows). But I would not gut the roster for them.

Rationally, with every big move Marks made, I was fine at the time. It turned out that it would not work, but I thought they were reasonable moves (except Nash). I much rather stick with Marks than get another Billy King again. I'm willing to wait until the offseason moves before I hate on him.

Same for JV. After three years of Nash I'm still delighted that he is with the team, even though he just might not be very good :)
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#62 » by Marvin Martian » Wed Mar 1, 2023 8:51 am

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Have to get a star this offseason. If not Trae Young, maybe we can get Zach Lavine

No stars coming here anytime soon and Trae / Lavine is barely a stars to build around


We don't control our draft picks so tanking is not an option. Getting a star and building a foundation to attract free agents is the only option left
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#63 » by gigantes » Wed Mar 1, 2023 10:32 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:No one can watch this team and tell me it's well coached. IDGAF about the results. This is horrible basketball. All the assets on this team will be viewed as garbage or undervalued by seasons end.

Nailed it. But this is all Marks.

If you put a bunch of role players together and expect them to perform well this is what you get. Everybody's value is getting cratered and decent talents like Sumner and Yuta can't even get minutes since everybody is a 5-7/10 range as a player.
OfficialRef wrote:Team sucks. Different season, same team that can't do **** without Durant.
How Marks still hasn't even faced a lick of pressure is beyond me. The team is paying guys like Ben, Joe and Patty to basically do nothing on the court while coached by a clown coach. If Marks had done his job properly the team would be oh so different

Please.

Stop bitching and moaning about Marks.
It's not going to solve anything.

Fire that dude, and unless you have an ace up your sleeve with someone else, it's going to be much the same. My issue at this point is whoever's running the offense.

It's comically similar to our group complaints in terms of Durant or Kyrie while they were here, except we don't have those super-bailout options anymore.

Why is that...?
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#64 » by NetsWorld » Wed Mar 1, 2023 12:14 pm

njnets62892 wrote:
NetsWorld wrote:We need a change at the top. Marks has to go; we are seriously going back to 2010-11 territory. Horrible horrible horrible.


Joe Tsai got exactly what he wanted so Marks probably gets a 4 year extension while the Liberty outdraw the Nets.



We better start drafting well. The draft is our only hope since we are not playing like a team that will be attractive to free agents. DFS has been a disaster from the 3 point line. If the three don’t fall, the team has to attack. Bridges and Johnson and Clax were the only bright spots. We need to cut the garbage, Ala Harris, DFS, O’Neal and Curry and replace them. Use the damn picks wisely and draft well. Perhaps we can find a good and efficient shot creator. Trade Thomas while he has value. He doesn’t have a high IQ
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#65 » by NetsJets » Wed Mar 1, 2023 2:56 pm

This was what some of you guys wanted right? I hope you’re enjoying this. We have some winnable games next week. If we blow those games then we’re in trouble.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#66 » by MGrand15 » Wed Mar 1, 2023 4:01 pm

NetsJets wrote:This was what some of you guys wanted right? I hope you’re enjoying this. We have some winnable games next week. If we blow those games then we’re in trouble.


Definitely enjoying it WAY more than last season.

Some of you act like the KD / Kyrie era was fun. That team was miserable outside of 8 weeks in 2021.
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#67 » by Karate Diop » Wed Mar 1, 2023 5:07 pm

Have to put together a whole game and can't beat yourself with turnovers... The Bucks are a better team but this should have been more competitive at the end. You're always going to be at a whistle disadvantage with the NBA seemingly fully invested in the Giannis narrative but you have to play through it...
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#68 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 1, 2023 5:22 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
NetsWorld wrote:We need a change at the top. Marks has to go; we are seriously going back to 2010-11 territory. Horrible horrible horrible.


Dude we need to change teams.

Nothing will fix this. Nets are gonna Net.

Weve been saying we need to change owner/GM/players/coach for decades.

Always ends up the same way. There is no fix.


Change teams ?

What we gonna watch now Lacrosse or Liberty ? No thanks :lol:


Choose a competent NBA franchise to root for :lol:
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#69 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Mar 1, 2023 5:23 pm

ArksNetsSince99 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Papi_swav wrote:Screw it let's just go full tank and get a lottery pick


Kyrie trade was honestly just really dumb.

Dinwiddie and DFS are useless. Should have really just taken those Lakers picks.

Tanking was the smart move.


Better option was making no move at all and send Kyrie home for remaining of the season tbh


No way. We needed the picks
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#70 » by 3pt_chucker » Wed Mar 1, 2023 5:25 pm

gigantes wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:No one can watch this team and tell me it's well coached. IDGAF about the results. This is horrible basketball. All the assets on this team will be viewed as garbage or undervalued by seasons end.

Nailed it. But this is all Marks.

If you put a bunch of role players together and expect them to perform well this is what you get. Everybody's value is getting cratered and decent talents like Sumner and Yuta can't even get minutes since everybody is a 5-7/10 range as a player.
OfficialRef wrote:Team sucks. Different season, same team that can't do **** without Durant.
How Marks still hasn't even faced a lick of pressure is beyond me. The team is paying guys like Ben, Joe and Patty to basically do nothing on the court while coached by a clown coach. If Marks had done his job properly the team would be oh so different

Please.

Stop bitching and moaning about Marks.
It's not going to solve anything.

Fire that dude, and unless you have an ace up your sleeve with someone else, it's going to be much the same. My issue at this point is whoever's running the offense.

It's comically similar to our group complaints in terms of Durant or Kyrie while they were here, except we don't have those super-bailout options anymore.

Why is that...?


Who just gave the person coaching the team a second (and longer) extension for absolutely no reason??

Who is it that took forever to get rid of Nash even though we all saw from jump he's awful??

Who is it that refuses to sign a real back up big even though the roster has been crying out for one??

Who is it that kept redundant midget guards who can't stay on the floor?

Who is it that has multiple negative contracts that will require assets to get rid off?

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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#71 » by 3pt_chucker » Wed Mar 1, 2023 5:33 pm

Shark wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Why is Yuta in the doghouse? This team keeps taking 3s, but the best shooter is not playing

He's injured tonight. Back soreness.


Doubt he was going to play regardless. He has only gotten garbage time mins since Vaughn said he wanted to reduce the rotation.

Meanwhile Joe Harris had one good quarter of basketball, so he gets to play despite stinking it up on the floor. Don;t get me started on his insistence to play Sharpe even though he's not a NBA player. :noway:
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#72 » by NetsJets » Wed Mar 1, 2023 5:38 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
NetsJets wrote:This was what some of you guys wanted right? I hope you’re enjoying this. We have some winnable games next week. If we blow those games then we’re in trouble.


Definitely enjoying it WAY more than last season.

Some of you act like the KD / Kyrie era was fun. That team was miserable outside of 8 weeks in 2021.

At least last season I had hope. Now we’re hopeless…
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#73 » by gigantes » Wed Mar 1, 2023 7:56 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:
gigantes wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:Nailed it. But this is all Marks.

If you put a bunch of role players together and expect them to perform well this is what you get. Everybody's value is getting cratered and decent talents like Sumner and Yuta can't even get minutes since everybody is a 5-7/10 range as a player.
OfficialRef wrote:Team sucks. Different season, same team that can't do **** without Durant.
How Marks still hasn't even faced a lick of pressure is beyond me. The team is paying guys like Ben, Joe and Patty to basically do nothing on the court while coached by a clown coach. If Marks had done his job properly the team would be oh so different

Please.

Stop bitching and moaning about Marks.
It's not going to solve anything.

Fire that dude, and unless you have an ace up your sleeve with someone else, it's going to be much the same. My issue at this point is whoever's running the offense.

It's comically similar to our group complaints in terms of Durant or Kyrie while they were here, except we don't have those super-bailout options anymore.

Why is that...?
1) Who just gave the person coaching the team a second (and longer) extension for absolutely no reason??

2) Who is it that took forever to get rid of Nash even though we all saw from jump he's awful??

3) Who is it that refuses to sign a real back up big even though the roster has been crying out for one??

4) Who is it that kept redundant midget guards who can't stay on the floor?

5) Who is it that has multiple negative contracts that will require assets to get rid off?

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

1) I've pointed out multiple times why it was a fine decision, and why it was and still is a fine decision IMO.
(now if I'm an idiot, that's cool, but I'm answering the question)

2) Nobody here had the remotest idea how Nash would do, altho otherwise 100% I agree with you. But how does that help or change the rearview mirror, 3ptC?

3) Agree

4) Agree, with a caveat--
Marks is classically (or chronically?) good at grabbing talent, without regard to fit.

We fans then keep making a terrible, awful mistake in our thinking.
You know the one I'm talking about?

It's this, matey--
WE NINCOMPOOPS THEN IMAGINE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT TALENT, IT SOMEHOW SHOULD EQUIVOCATE TO EQUAL, FANTASY TALENT

Oh, HERE-- let's spin the wheel of fortune, right? Here's a *NEW* owner, *NEW* GM & a *NEW* coach, and guess how long that honeymoon is going to last when there aren't wins?

As Jimmy James from NewsRadio would sarcastically say: "yea-heah..!"

5) Agree. I despised the Harden trade at the time, but came around to the point, eventually.
It was a pretty decent all-in kind of venture, and sadly, we were going to struggle trying to pay Fro without severe difficulties.

But IMO you can thank Kyrie *dipnozzle* Irving for most of this bullsh-t.
Me, I wanted nothing to do with KD&KI at the time, but persuaded myself to come around, over time. (go ahead, look up my years of posts here)

* Yes yes, "Kyrie Quickstraw," one of the historically greatest wastes of talent in the NBA, and a dude who did absolutely everything he could to avoid growing up, with an unwanted bonus of his loathsome band of sycophantic "fans." Altho on the positive, I think they know very well where to go. :D
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Re: GT: Nets vs Bucks - 2/28- 7:30 PM 

Post#74 » by Shark » Wed Mar 1, 2023 10:07 pm

I'm not feeling nearly as pessimistic about the team as some here are, but it's definitely a much more flawed team than we may have initially thought. The depth that was supposed to be a strength hasn't been there. And the strangest thing about it is that our bench, composed of guys that have been here the longest, have looked the most out of place. I like what the starters have shown, especially on the defensive side.

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