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JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push

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Re: JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push 

Post#81 » by tiderulz » Fri Mar 3, 2023 1:20 pm

basketballRob wrote:We're 8-3 when Isaac plays. If Isaac plays 70 games next season, we win 50 games.

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that record is not a product of his play. 11 mpg 5 ppg isnt even close to the main reason the team won those games
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Re: JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push 

Post#82 » by swarlesbarkley » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:06 pm

MagicMatic wrote:There is really no point in playing him the rest of this season. That ship has sailed.

Now, if he doesn’t play next season and has minor concerns, then I’m giving up on him entirely. Magic should not hand him a huge contract to sit on the bench 90% of the time.


The past 3 years we've heard "there's basically no reason to play JI anymore this season" while waiting and hoping for his return.

Does anyone on this board play a team sport? There's absolutely something to gain from playing JI with this new crew. Chemistry is a real thing and he's logged less than 120 minutes played with the new core of players (and a majority of those minutes were spent with the bench). If there's any hope he's a part of our future/core, he's gotta get minutes with Paolo/Franz. The only argument for not seeing him play with this new core is to admit JI is a 10 minutes per game player now for the rest of his career.

Remember when the talking point was that JI would take Bamba's minutes once we traded Bamba?
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Re: JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push 

Post#83 » by Petre1978 » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:44 pm

Time to draft Isaac's replacement
Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks
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Re: JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push 

Post#84 » by eyriq » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:45 pm

It's really unfortunate he is so injury prone. Hopefully it works out.
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Re: JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push 

Post#85 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Mar 3, 2023 2:50 pm

swarlesbarkley wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:There is really no point in playing him the rest of this season. That ship has sailed.

Now, if he doesn’t play next season and has minor concerns, then I’m giving up on him entirely. Magic should not hand him a huge contract to sit on the bench 90% of the time.


The past 3 years we've heard "there's basically no reason to play JI anymore this season" while waiting and hoping for his return.

Does anyone on this board play a team sport? There's absolutely something to gain from playing JI with this new crew. Chemistry is a real thing and he's logged less than 120 minutes played with the new core of players (and a majority of those minutes were spent with the bench). If there's any hope he's a part of our future/core, he's gotta get minutes with Paolo/Franz. The only argument for not seeing him play with this new core is to admit JI is a 10 minutes per game player now for the rest of his career.

Remember when the talking point was that JI would take Bamba's minutes once we traded Bamba?


Bingo! JI is not the missing piece to a championship. He is not irreplaceable. He is like the heated seats in my MDX. A really nice to have because of my dumb lower back pain. He isn't the guy you sit out and say "no point in playing him" no Paolo and Franz if they get a minor injury deserve that honor.

That being said, there is "no point in playing him" if he has a legit injury. But then to defend him as if he is some kinda golden goose is mind numbing. No he is injured. He isn't playing again. Sucks. Is all that needs to be said.

Hoping he comes back and his body figures itself out and he crushes it. The flashes we have seen are no less brilliant.
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Re: JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push 

Post#86 » by VFX » Fri Mar 3, 2023 3:15 pm

swarlesbarkley wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:There is really no point in playing him the rest of this season. That ship has sailed.

Now, if he doesn’t play next season and has minor concerns, then I’m giving up on him entirely. Magic should not hand him a huge contract to sit on the bench 90% of the time.


The past 3 years we've heard "there's basically no reason to play JI anymore this season" while waiting and hoping for his return.

Does anyone on this board play a team sport? There's absolutely something to gain from playing JI with this new crew. Chemistry is a real thing and he's logged less than 120 minutes played with the new core of players (and a majority of those minutes were spent with the bench). If there's any hope he's a part of our future/core, he's gotta get minutes with Paolo/Franz. The only argument for not seeing him play with this new core is to admit JI is a 10 minutes per game player now for the rest of his career.

Remember when the talking point was that JI would take Bamba's minutes once we traded Bamba?


First off, calm tf down with your tone asking questions like that. Yes I played “team sports”. You are acting like JI is playing varsity basketball and there aren’t other asset obligations and strategy involved in these decisions.

The guy hasn’t played professional basketball in forever and is being nursed into minutes. He is being shut down every other game. The FO is obviously not concerned with pushing into the play in if that wasn’t the case. On the other hand, they aren’t going to start sitting starters for blatant tanking like Detroit and Indiana.

The season ends soon. Nobody will even be talking about this in a month or two. Get Isaac a fully healthy off-season and training camp. If he is still “injured”, then load up his next contract with as many stipulations as possible. They have paid him enough money off the court.
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Post#87 » by The Effect » Fri Mar 3, 2023 4:04 pm

Petre1978 wrote:Time to draft Isaac's replacement
Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks


DIdnt we draft his replacement the past 2 years in Paolo and franz?
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Post#88 » by swarlesbarkley » Fri Mar 3, 2023 4:46 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
swarlesbarkley wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:There is really no point in playing him the rest of this season. That ship has sailed.

Now, if he doesn’t play next season and has minor concerns, then I’m giving up on him entirely. Magic should not hand him a huge contract to sit on the bench 90% of the time.


The past 3 years we've heard "there's basically no reason to play JI anymore this season" while waiting and hoping for his return.

Does anyone on this board play a team sport? There's absolutely something to gain from playing JI with this new crew. Chemistry is a real thing and he's logged less than 120 minutes played with the new core of players (and a majority of those minutes were spent with the bench). If there's any hope he's a part of our future/core, he's gotta get minutes with Paolo/Franz. The only argument for not seeing him play with this new core is to admit JI is a 10 minutes per game player now for the rest of his career.

Remember when the talking point was that JI would take Bamba's minutes once we traded Bamba?


First off, calm tf down with your tone asking questions like that. Yes I played “team sports”. You are acting like JI is playing varsity basketball and there aren’t other asset obligations and strategy involved in these decisions.

The guy hasn’t played professional basketball in forever and is being nursed into minutes. He is being shut down every other game. The FO is obviously not concerned with pushing into the play in if that wasn’t the case. On the other hand, they aren’t going to start sitting starters for blatant tanking like Detroit and Indiana.

The season ends soon. Nobody will even be talking about this in a month or two. Get Isaac a fully healthy off-season and training camp. If he is still “injured”, then load up his next contract with as many stipulations as possible. They have paid him enough money off the court.


I apologize about my tone, good sir (or ma'am).

People will definitely be talking about this in a month or two if JI ended up playing 120 minutes all season when he was supposed to be fully healthy at the start of the season and after missing 2 full seasons.
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Re: JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push 

Post#89 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Mar 3, 2023 5:38 pm

swarlesbarkley wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
swarlesbarkley wrote:
The past 3 years we've heard "there's basically no reason to play JI anymore this season" while waiting and hoping for his return.

Does anyone on this board play a team sport? There's absolutely something to gain from playing JI with this new crew. Chemistry is a real thing and he's logged less than 120 minutes played with the new core of players (and a majority of those minutes were spent with the bench). If there's any hope he's a part of our future/core, he's gotta get minutes with Paolo/Franz. The only argument for not seeing him play with this new core is to admit JI is a 10 minutes per game player now for the rest of his career.

Remember when the talking point was that JI would take Bamba's minutes once we traded Bamba?


First off, calm tf down with your tone asking questions like that. Yes I played “team sports”. You are acting like JI is playing varsity basketball and there aren’t other asset obligations and strategy involved in these decisions.

The guy hasn’t played professional basketball in forever and is being nursed into minutes. He is being shut down every other game. The FO is obviously not concerned with pushing into the play in if that wasn’t the case. On the other hand, they aren’t going to start sitting starters for blatant tanking like Detroit and Indiana.

The season ends soon. Nobody will even be talking about this in a month or two. Get Isaac a fully healthy off-season and training camp. If he is still “injured”, then load up his next contract with as many stipulations as possible. They have paid him enough money off the court.


I apologize about my tone, good sir (or ma'am).

People will definitely be talking about this in a month or two if JI ended up playing 120 minutes all season when he was supposed to be fully healthy at the start of the season and after missing 2 full seasons.


Between JI and Fultz its almost all we talk about. Even after we have beaten the horse to death respectively in each others camps. As if we are going to change opinions.
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Re: JI has been sidelined again and I hope he is healthy for the Play In Push 

Post#90 » by eyriq » Fri Mar 3, 2023 10:06 pm

Whoa, just saw he's out for the season. Cut the cord for sure.
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Post#91 » by byeganyo » Fri Mar 3, 2023 11:51 pm

We really should have tried to trade him for anything at the deadline. and i really hope this is the last we've seen of him with orlando jersey. his contract is not fully guaranteed, just waive him.
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Post#92 » by paperboymafia » Sat Mar 4, 2023 11:50 am

Time to cut losses, what a bummer for the guy and the team.

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