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2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition

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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1461 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:40 pm

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ShulaDon92 wrote:Also, a reminder that Eastern conference teams are not trading within the same conference.

Kyrie to Dallas
Durant to Phoenix
Westbrook from Washington to LA

Since Westbrook was traded from Washington to LA:

Kyle Lowry to Miami
Harden from Brooklyn to Philly
Brogdon from Indiana to Boston

Teams will absolutely trade intra-conference its just a matter of having pieces the other team actually wants


Not blockbuster trades but yea maybe the less popular players are moving around intra-conference.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1462 » by Timantha » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:50 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Lowry, Martin, and 2023 pick for Kristaps Porzingis

Herro, 2028 and 2030 picks for?

Possible scenarios going into the offseason


Porzingis probably gonna opt out and sign a long term deal with the Wizards. You know how the Wizards are.. they love mediocrity and are gonna cap themselves out by giving Kuz and KP big money
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Post#1463 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 8:50 pm

Bill Simmons is right we lost the Olynyk trade. Damn.
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Post#1464 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:06 pm

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Post#1465 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:21 pm

Blowing things up is EXTreeeeme but a big time change is needed to boost this squad.

I agree Herro WAS the bench last year. Now our bench is thin. Yurtseven will be a revelation, good or bad. I thought Zellar was a three ball man. He is not
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Post#1466 » by AirP. » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:38 pm

ShulaDon92 wrote:Blowing things up is EXTreeeeme but a big time change is needed to boost this squad.

I agree Herro WAS the bench last year. Now our bench is thin. Yurtseven will be a revelation, good or bad. I thought Zellar was a three ball man. He is not


I think there's things that can be done this year if everyone is finally healthy.

Start: Lowry, Strus, Butler, Love and Bam.

Run the offense through the PG, Butler and Bam.
Get a guy to basically ONLY catch and shoot the ball. Let Strus know if you dribble the ball more than twice you better get a very high percentage shot(layup or dunk) or we'll pull you for Duncan and the same goes for him except a 1 dribble limit. Although Herro is good at catch and shooting the ball, he wants to do more and Miami also handed him a contract to do more than that, let him feast on more backups. He'll get some reps vs starters in the playoffs and hopefully figure out some type of counters for higher level defenders scheming against him.

Bench: Herro, Oladipo, Martin, Yurtseven and either go small with Vincent or go big with Zeller.
Give Herro the green light at anytime when Butler or Bam's not on the floor so you take away shot attempts from Oladipo who sadly looks like he needs to become a defensive roleplayer to help this team (each time I say this he starts having good games).

It's odd but if healthy this team could vastly change how they're playing come the playoffs. Although Yurtseven isn't an all-star, he does add talent to push another bad player out of the rotation. Then again, they could have a number of players decide not to play defense and have an early vacation.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1467 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:38 pm

Reminder that Oladipo has a 9 million dollar player option for next season lmao
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Post#1468 » by wade44 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:48 pm

This team needs to get desperate. I mean primal survival mode. Herro and Love to the bench. Start Robinson. Go back to the DHO. Get Yurt in the starting lineup.

Remember Spo's whole thing a few years ago about being ready when your name is called? Now it's time for Robinson to show up and earn his keep. Don't care if it takes a few kicks to the mangina to get it done

Lowry
Robinson
Jimmy
Bam
Yurt

Gabe
Dipo
Caleb
Love
Zeller

For the rest of the year. Done with Strus let him walk the second he hits FA. If Lowry is out, time to cut UD/Highsmith and get someone who can run point not named Gabe in there
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Post#1469 » by AirP. » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:49 pm

Miami plays Memphis the 15th but he's probably only going to miss a couple of games.
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Post#1470 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:54 pm

AirP. wrote:Miami plays Memphis the 15th but he's probably only going to miss a couple of games.
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Post#1471 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:56 pm

AirP. wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:Blowing things up is EXTreeeeme but a big time change is needed to boost this squad.

I agree Herro WAS the bench last year. Now our bench is thin. Yurtseven will be a revelation, good or bad. I thought Zellar was a three ball man. He is not


I think there's things that can be done this year if everyone is finally healthy.

Start: Lowry, Strus, Butler, Love and Bam.

Run the offense through the PG, Butler and Bam.
Get a guy to basically ONLY catch and shoot the ball. Let Strus know if you dribble the ball more than twice you better get a very high percentage shot(layup or dunk) or we'll pull you for Duncan and the same goes for him except a 1 dribble limit. Although Herro is good at catch and shooting the ball, he wants to do more and Miami also handed him a contract to do more than that, let him feast on more backups. He'll get some reps vs starters in the playoffs and hopefully figure out some type of counters for higher level defenders scheming against him.

Bench: Herro, Oladipo, Martin, Yurtseven and either go small with Vincent or go big with Zeller.
Give Herro the green light at anytime when Butler or Bam's not on the floor so you take away shot attempts from Oladipo who sadly looks like he needs to become a defensive roleplayer to help this team (each time I say this he starts having good games).

It's odd but if healthy this team could vastly change how they're playing come the playoffs. Although Yurtseven isn't an all-star, he does add talent to push another bad player out of the rotation. Then again, they could have a number of players decide not to play defense and have an early vacation.


That's our last hope, that Spo can wring out a functional playoff team out of these parts. Spo is good at this sometimes.
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Re: 2023 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread - Westbrook and Love edition 

Post#1472 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:57 pm

Grizzlies will smack us with or without Morant (again) so it doesn’t matter either way.

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Post#1473 » by AirP. » Sat Mar 4, 2023 9:59 pm

ShulaDon92 wrote:
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AirP. wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:Blowing things up is EXTreeeeme but a big time change is needed to boost this squad.

I agree Herro WAS the bench last year. Now our bench is thin. Yurtseven will be a revelation, good or bad. I thought Zellar was a three ball man. He is not


I think there's things that can be done this year if everyone is finally healthy.

Start: Lowry, Strus, Butler, Love and Bam.

Run the offense through the PG, Butler and Bam.
Get a guy to basically ONLY catch and shoot the ball. Let Strus know if you dribble the ball more than twice you better get a very high percentage shot(layup or dunk) or we'll pull you for Duncan and the same goes for him except a 1 dribble limit. Although Herro is good at catch and shooting the ball, he wants to do more and Miami also handed him a contract to do more than that, let him feast on more backups. He'll get some reps vs starters in the playoffs and hopefully figure out some type of counters for higher level defenders scheming against him.

Bench: Herro, Oladipo, Martin, Yurtseven and either go small with Vincent or go big with Zeller.
Give Herro the green light at anytime when Butler or Bam's not on the floor so you take away shot attempts from Oladipo who sadly looks like he needs to become a defensive roleplayer to help this team (each time I say this he starts having good games).

It's odd but if healthy this team could vastly change how they're playing come the playoffs. Although Yurtseven isn't an all-star, he does add talent to push another bad player out of the rotation. Then again, they could have a number of players decide not to play defense and have an early vacation.


That's our last hope, that Spo can wring out a functional playoff team out of these parts. Spo is good at this sometimes.

This team hasn't been fully healthy this season, it's not even age related with young guys like Yurtseven and Herro missing games with injuries and the older guys like Butler, Oladipo and Lowry also missing games and sometimes playing hurt(both the younger and the older guys).
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Post#1474 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 10:00 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:Reminder that Oladipo has a 9 million dollar player option for next season lmao


Could be a buyout depending on how he performs going forward, again.
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Post#1475 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 10:12 pm

AirP. wrote:
ShulaDon92 wrote:
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AirP. wrote:
I think there's things that can be done this year if everyone is finally healthy.

Start: Lowry, Strus, Butler, Love and Bam.

Run the offense through the PG, Butler and Bam.
Get a guy to basically ONLY catch and shoot the ball. Let Strus know if you dribble the ball more than twice you better get a very high percentage shot(layup or dunk) or we'll pull you for Duncan and the same goes for him except a 1 dribble limit. Although Herro is good at catch and shooting the ball, he wants to do more and Miami also handed him a contract to do more than that, let him feast on more backups. He'll get some reps vs starters in the playoffs and hopefully figure out some type of counters for higher level defenders scheming against him.

Bench: Herro, Oladipo, Martin, Yurtseven and either go small with Vincent or go big with Zeller.
Give Herro the green light at anytime when Butler or Bam's not on the floor so you take away shot attempts from Oladipo who sadly looks like he needs to become a defensive roleplayer to help this team (each time I say this he starts having good games).

It's odd but if healthy this team could vastly change how they're playing come the playoffs. Although Yurtseven isn't an all-star, he does add talent to push another bad player out of the rotation. Then again, they could have a number of players decide not to play defense and have an early vacation.


That's our last hope, that Spo can wring out a functional playoff team out of these parts. Spo is good at this sometimes.

This team hasn't been fully healthy this season, it's not even age related with young guys like Yurtseven and Herro missing games with injuries and the older guys like Butler, Oladipo and Lowry also missing games and sometimes playing hurt(both the younger and the older guys).


This is true, so you have a general lack of depth and injuries to boot.
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Post#1476 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 10:13 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Grizzlies will smack us with or without Morant (again) so it doesn’t matter either way.

Ja is a dumb fuxk


Yeah , Ja is exhibiting a ton of bad decisions
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Post#1477 » by Shewasfly » Sat Mar 4, 2023 10:56 pm

I'm not even surprised if it comes out that we really are thinking of building around Bam. Horrible decision, but one in a long and growing list of many. Bam is a great complimentary player. Ideally your 3rd option on a championship contender. Once you start treating him as if he is a franchise player, you create a whole host of problems for yourself, which is what we are kind of doing now.

Bam is a tweener who can't shoot but is very switchable on defense. In order to be maximized, he must play the C. You are then by definition going to have to go small, or put him next to a big shooting "4" who can still create space.

OK, no problem, as long as your best scoring option (Jimmy) can shoot 3s.

...He can't?

OK, still can be alright as long as all the rest of your roster are above average to elite shooters with NBA level talent/athleticism.

...They're not?

OK OK, do you at least have another high scorer who can put up 25-30 a night??

...No?? Your first option can do it easily, but the next best thing is a frail 4th year player that needs time to even get there physically, let alone develop his game (Tyler)???

Well, that's not a championship level team, but at least if your best scoring option and who you're choosing as your "franchise player" can reliably give you 25-35 every night at will, and your third option can give you the same 60-75% of the time, you can be a 3rd seed and hope for some luck in the playoffs.

...wait so the "franchise" guy you're building around def can't give you 25-35 a night because he lacks the mentality and natural talent????

What??? Gtfoh with that lottery team.
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Post#1478 » by Jfh20 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 11:10 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Grizzlies will smack us with or without Morant (again) so it doesn’t matter either way.

Ja is a dumb fuxk


extremely talented tho... could become best in the world if he could get his head on straight and put the focus on basketball.
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Post#1479 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Mar 4, 2023 11:15 pm

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Post#1480 » by ShulaDon92 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 11:16 pm

Shewasfly wrote:I'm not even surprised if it comes out that we really are thinking of building around Bam. Horrible decision, but one in a long and growing list of many. Bam is a great complimentary player. Ideally your 3rd option on a championship contender. Once you start treating him as if he is a franchise player, you create a whole host of problems for yourself, which is what we are kind of doing now.

Bam is a tweener who can't shoot but is very switchable on defense. In order to be maximized, he must play the C. You are then by definition going to have to go small, or put him next to a big shooting "4" who can still create space.

OK, no problem, as long as your best scoring option (Jimmy) can shoot 3s.

...He can't?

OK, still can be alright as long as all the rest of your roster are above average to elite shooters with NBA level talent/athleticism.

...They're not?

OK OK, do you at least have another high scorer who can put up 25-30 a night??

...No?? Your first option can do it easily, but the next best thing is a frail 4th year player that needs time to even get there physically, let alone develop his game (Tyler)???

Well, that's not a championship level team, but at least if your best scoring option and who you're choosing as your "franchise player" can reliably give you 25-35 every night at will, and your third option can give you the same 60-75% of the time, you can be a 3rd seed and hope for some luck in the playoffs.

...wait so the "franchise" guy you're building around def can't give you 25-35 a night because he lacks the mentality and natural talent????

What??? Gtfoh with that lottery team.


Boom. That's a knockout torching. You've hit many issues on the head, which is why foundational changes to the core could happen as presently constructed.

Gotta let em cook and see what the plate tastes like at this point. Added Love and Zellar. Lost more shooting in Zellar maybe not so with Love. Gotta see Yurt77...

The plate is ready??

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