Wolfgang630 wrote:Jasen777 wrote:TBF, Nash's MVPs were a mistake.
The first one definitely wasn’t.
Both of them were well deserved, now you can go and cry your guts out

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Wolfgang630 wrote:Jasen777 wrote:TBF, Nash's MVPs were a mistake.
The first one definitely wasn’t.
whatisacenter wrote:just came to say that I'm not going to click on anything in this thread.
ReddoverKobe wrote:DaddyCool19 wrote:Has it ever happened, that an ex NFL player said a black QB only won the MVP, because he is black. I don't know much about American Football, but aren't most of the QB's white?
There was the whole Limbaugh thing with McNabb years ago. Limbaugh was not a player though.
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Mephariel wrote:Peregrine01 wrote:
Think about Rachel Nichols, who was summarily fired for suggesting that a black girl was being favored at her expense because ESPN wanted to promote diversity. She's been black-balled from sports media ever since.
Now you have Kendrick Perkins, who's clearly suggesting that Nash, Dirk and Jokic are or were favored in MVPs because of their race and you haven't heard a peep out of ESPN yet. Interesting how double standards work.
Perkins is a moron and Jokic deserves MVP considerations this year and probably should win it but Nichols was out of line for saying what she said about a coworker. Taylor is a talented sportscaster herself and ESPN wasn't entitled to give the job to Nichols. She just assumed Taylor was given the job because she was black and that's that.
Kendrick Perkins isn’t an idiot. He knows exactly what he was doing because he knows he can get away with it. It’s way deeper than that though.
Every single person in here knows that if we play reverse the races that Perkins would be GONE in the same way Nichols is. But People think it ok because of how the media treats these issues.
The reason he can say those things is because Let’s be honest the left believe in deconstructing society because they believe that racism is only about power which is why you can have egregiously racist people say horrible things but because they aren’t perceived to be in “power” then it’s ok.
It’s really not about the race it’s about retuning power to specific group over another at the expense of the other group because they believe in reshaping “the system” it’s about undoing what’s perceived as a power hierarchy not about being morally good.
I don’t think Perk is thinking THAT deep about it but its why he can be a bigot on tv and face zero consequences. At worst they’ll say he got caught in a bad moment, he’ll say “sorry” shrug his shoulders and move on with life and Jokic, much like you just did, better just chalk it up as “Perk being Perk” because how dare he be offended which is total garbage.
At a pure human level NOBODY should be ok with this and if you truly believe that we shouldn’t malign groups then it should make zero sense to think that it’s ok.
Lucky Clover wrote:I’m probably gonna get some flack for this but here’s my opinion.
In a sport that is predominately African American, a white guy winning MVPs shouldn’t be garnering responses like this. Sure the people voting on MVP are probably predominately white, but all the years when there wasn’t someone white winning MVP nobody had a problem about it. Now someone who is skilled and deserves to win comes along and there’s race baiting from his peers? I think this is what is wrong with America today. It really is sad.
Edit: I’m assuming the title isn’t some bait and is actually accurate.
GunnerWRX wrote:Perkins is one of the most stupid all time player turned commentator. He is allowed to say a lot of stupid crap without consequences. I am not sure why networks still hire him.
Peregrine01 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Peregrine01 wrote:
I hope that this isn't he case because ESPN has always made their stance on racism clear - or is it when the tables are turned, it's ok to turn a blind eye to?
ESPN (none of these major corporations) have a moral stance on anything. They’re just going to push whatever gets them the most clicks and views (revenue).
Long gone are the days with ESPN where their biggest names were the Sportscenter anchors. Where the most charismatic and entertaining people became the most popular. Those were the people that moved the needle for ESPN in the past.
With the Internet and YouTube, guys just talking about the highlights don’t move the needle anymore. It’s the ones that get trending on social media, the ones that get the clicks and interactions. And guys that make narratives like Perk is doing get the most clicks.
Think about Rachel Nichols, who was summarily fired for suggesting that a black girl was being favored at her expense because ESPN wanted to promote diversity. She's been black-balled from sports media ever since.
Now you have Kendrick Perkins, who's clearly suggesting that Nash, Dirk and Jokic are or were favored in MVPs because of their race and you haven't heard a peep out of ESPN yet. Interesting how double standards work.
jehosafats wrote:Jokic is a unique player who deserves his flowers. The back-to-back MVPs were well-deserved. Although I don't know how justified 3 MVPs in a row really is when you have players like Embiid, who acquits himself more than adequately on both sides of the floor. It's almost like Embiid wasn't even considered.
jehosafats wrote:Jokic is a unique player who deserves his flowers. The back-to-back MVPs were well-deserved. Although I don't know how justified 3 MVPs in a row really is when you have players like Embiid, who acquits himself more than adequately on both sides of the floor. It's almost like Embiid wasn't even considered.
cupcakesnake wrote:People talk about this award like it isn't won through a voting system every year.
Charlesareed wrote:Lucky Clover wrote:I’m probably gonna get some flack for this but here’s my opinion.
In a sport that is predominately African American, a white guy winning MVPs shouldn’t be garnering responses like this. Sure the people voting on MVP are probably predominately white, but all the years when there wasn’t someone white winning MVP nobody had a problem about it. Now someone who is skilled and deserves to win comes along and there’s race baiting from his peers? I think this is what is wrong with America today. It really is sad.
Edit: I’m assuming the title isn’t some bait and is actually accurate.
As a black man and a sports fanatic your are absolutely right spot on I really don’t all the hate for joker tho he plays the right way no one had a problem with lebron stat padding to pass kaj and he’s played what 1 game since then the all star game doesn’t count it’s sad that their being up race in the and it’s shameful he’s deserving of the award he’s got the best record in the league #1 seed in the west & he’s averaging a triple double as a center come on man give him his flowers