NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2022-23 (part 4 - The Final MVP Countdown!)
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Despite his limitations, I have seen Jokic protecting the rim when engaged. That being said, he usually doesn't even try, for whatever reason. Maybe he is aware that it is not his strength and more likely than not he will pickup a foul, maybe it takes energy that he wants to spend on other end, or whatever.
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Jokic “deserves” this 2022-23 nba mvp.
Saying that. It’s the 3rd mvp in a row. The bar (and success expected) for a 3 time mvp is extremely high.
Should he win the the mvp this season. And I’m sure he will.
And even though playoff success doesn’t count for regular season mvp. Should Jokic not win an nba title. He will be the only 3 time mvp not to win nba title in any of his mvp seasons. That’s a damming metric he won’t be able to avoid. That’s how high the bar in terms of team success for 3 time nba mvp.
Saying that. It’s the 3rd mvp in a row. The bar (and success expected) for a 3 time mvp is extremely high.
Should he win the the mvp this season. And I’m sure he will.
And even though playoff success doesn’t count for regular season mvp. Should Jokic not win an nba title. He will be the only 3 time mvp not to win nba title in any of his mvp seasons. That’s a damming metric he won’t be able to avoid. That’s how high the bar in terms of team success for 3 time nba mvp.
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Nuggets about to lose their 3rd in a row, this stuff matters.
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eyeatoma wrote:Nuggets about to lose their 3rd in a row, this stuff matters.
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It should in theory but this is Jokic wer'e talking about. He gets to play with a different set of rules.
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Embiid creates and hits the game-winning FG while Joker misses 2x with the game on the line, not able to create a clean look for himself.
But muh RAPTORZZZZ
But muh RAPTORZZZZ
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Arsenal wrote:Embiid creates and hits the game-winning FG while Joker misses 2x with the game on the line, not able to create a clean look for himself.
But muh RAPTORZZZZ
LMAO
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Joker with 35/20/11 and did all he could to bring the team back.
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And suddenly team success will no longer matter.
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p0peye wrote:Despite his limitations, I have seen Jokic protecting the rim when engaged. That being said, he usually doesn't even try, for whatever reason. Maybe he is aware that it is not his strength and more likely than not he will pickup a foul, maybe it takes energy that he wants to spend on other end, or whatever.
It fluctuates, his defense was very good against the Grizzlies, and it was once again solid today.
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I know both teams will never make a conference finals but Embiid deserves the MVP because of his defense and the game winner he had should be a big factor
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ReddoverKobe wrote:And suddenly team success will no longer matter.
you guys just beat a couple of teams (again) without Giannis (even one without Giannis and Jrue) and almost beat the champions at their home floor without Giannis
meanwhile, Joker's number #2 sucks and is in and out of the lineup with knee issues every other game
why are you so eager to credit Giannis for games in which he didn't play?
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kuclas wrote:Jokic “deserves” this 2022-23 nba mvp.
Saying that. It’s the 3rd mvp in a row. The bar (and success expected) for a 3 time mvp is extremely high.
Should he win the the mvp this season. And I’m sure he will.
And even though playoff success doesn’t count for regular season mvp. Should Jokic not win an nba title. He will be the only 3 time mvp not to win nba title in any of his mvp seasons. That’s a damming metric he won’t be able to avoid. That’s how high the bar in terms of team success for 3 time nba mvp.
All three deserve the mvp. Let’s see what happens
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He’s meeting expectations when you talk about setting the bar higher. He’s averaging a triple double and they have the number 1 seed.
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eyeatoma wrote:Arsenal wrote:Embiid creates and hits the game-winning FG while Joker misses 2x with the game on the line, not able to create a clean look for himself.
But muh RAPTORZZZZ
LMAO
Didn't Embiid get the ball 3x in the last 2 mins vs. Blazers?
- Brick
- Turned it over
- Gamewinner
We just saw Jokic hit an even more impressive gamewinner ... a month ago lol. Stepback 3...
Jokic 5x MVP train
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Second best player goes 5/19 but no let’s blame the guy who had a stat line of 35/20/11 on 60% to go with 2 steals & 2 blocks just because he missed a couple of shots at the end …
I do ask the 76ers fans though, do the same rules apply to Embiid if he had that stat line & Harden went 5/19 ? Does he get the same level of criticism you’re giving Jokic right now ?
I do ask the 76ers fans though, do the same rules apply to Embiid if he had that stat line & Harden went 5/19 ? Does he get the same level of criticism you’re giving Jokic right now ?
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I mean...Jokic is not the one to be going after in the clutch considering he's been better in the clutch their whole careers lol...
Maybe your 1 game sample size is more significant to you though
Here's a look at their play in the clutch this season:
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/clutch-traditional?CF=PLAYER_NAME*E*jokic&PerMode=Totals&Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=-1&sort=GP
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/clutch-traditional?CF=PLAYER_NAME*E*embiid&PerMode=Totals&Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=-1&sort=GP
Jokic 5x MVP train
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Cubbies2120 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:Arsenal wrote:Embiid creates and hits the game-winning FG while Joker misses 2x with the game on the line, not able to create a clean look for himself.
But muh RAPTORZZZZ
LMAO
Didn't Embiid get the ball 3x in the last 2 mins vs. Blazers?
- Brick
- Turned it over
- Gamewinner
We just saw Jokic hit an even more impressive gamewinner ... a month ago lol. Stepback 3...
Oh, we're going back in time?
From earlier this season...
In the playoffs when it matters.