Victor Wembanyama Mega-Thread - For all your Wembanyama needs!

remi_222 · Post #801 » by **remi_222** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:33 am

Exp0sed · Post #802 » by **Exp0sed** » Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:00 pm

remi_222 wrote:

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that's ridicilous...this kid is improving every month

he's doing things in these highlights that will translate to the NBA instantly
I think he's going to be an all-star as a rookie, that would make him one of the youngest ever. Kobe was a bit younger I think, right?

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #803 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:02 am

He's putting on weight properly, his back and shoulders are filling out slowly, his body looks completely different than Chet's did at that age. He has a good amount of lean muscle.

DoItALL9 · Post #804 » by **DoItALL9** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:55 pm

How many draft picks is Victor Wembanyama worth?

For example, if the Mavericks landed him could they ask OKC for SGA & 10 picks?

If Portland got him could they get Brooklyn to give them M. Bridges, Cam Johnson, DFS, and picks?

Ruma85 · Post #805 » by **Ruma85** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:00 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:How many draft picks is Victor Wembanyama worth?

For example, if the Mavericks landed him could they ask OKC for SGA & 10 picks?

If Portland got him could they get Brooklyn to give them M. Bridges, Cam Johnson, DFS, and picks?

Who ever get's this top pick, they ain't trading it.

UcanUwill · Post #806 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:03 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:How many draft picks is Victor Wembanyama worth?

For example, if the Mavericks landed him could they ask OKC for SGA & 10 picks?

If Portland got him could they get Brooklyn to give them M. Bridges, Cam Johnson, DFS, and picks?

Those two proposals arent even close to the same :lol:

If Dallas asks for SGA and 10 picks, they would have more tenacity Sinatra and Hefner combined, I mean thats just stupid.

But yes, he is good, call the Xcom Squad, this alien is a global threat. I dont even know what some of these guys thinkingwhen trying to score over him inside... It is like watching video game NPCs that dont adapt and learn, no intelligence.

DoItALL9 · Post #807 » by **DoItALL9** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:04 pm

What teams (with a realistic chance) would seriously consider trading Victor Wembanyama if they land the number one pick?

My guesses:
Portland
Orlando - unlikely but possible
Dallas
OKC - (I think they would probably trade other big pieces)
New Orleans - trading Zion would make more sense

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DoItALL9 · Post #808 » by **DoItALL9** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:06 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:How many draft picks is Victor Wembanyama worth?

For example, if the Mavericks landed him could they ask OKC for SGA & 10 picks?

If Portland got him could they get Brooklyn to give them M. Bridges, Cam Johnson, DFS, and picks?

Those two proposals arent even close to the same If Dallas asks for SGA and 10 picks, they would have more tenacity Sinatra and Hefner combined, I mean thats just stupid.

But yes, he is good, call the Xcom Squad, this alien is a global threat. I dont even know what some of these guys thinkingwhen trying to score over him inside... It is like watching video game NPCs that dont adapt and learn, no intelligence.

Why do you believe these proposals aren't close? I didn't say how many picks in the second one?
All 10 picks wouldn't necessarily be good. They could all be non-lottery pick 1sts.

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UcanUwill · Post #809 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:09 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:How many draft picks is Victor Wembanyama worth?

For example, if the Mavericks landed him could they ask OKC for SGA & 10 picks?

If Portland got him could they get Brooklyn to give them M. Bridges, Cam Johnson, DFS, and picks?

Those two proposals arent even close to the same If Dallas asks for SGA and 10 picks, they would have more tenacity Sinatra and Hefner combined, I mean thats just stupid.

But yes, he is good, call the Xcom Squad, this alien is a global threat. I dont even know what some of these guys thinkingwhen trying to score over him inside... It is like watching video game NPCs that dont adapt and learn, no intelligence.

Why do you believe these proposals aren't close? I didn't say how many picks in the second one?
All 10 picks wouldn't necessarily be good. They could all be non-lottery pick 1sts.

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SGA alone is borderline superstar, I love VW, but I am not sure I am trading SGA for VW, In a vacuum I do, but if I am OKC, I dont know, let alone adding 10 first round picks. VW is all time great prospect, but lets not act like he guarantees 5 rings by default, he doesn't.

DoItALL9 · Post #810 » by **DoItALL9** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:14 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Those two proposals arent even close to the same If Dallas asks for SGA and 10 picks, they would have more tenacity Sinatra and Hefner combined, I mean thats just stupid.

But yes, he is good, call the Xcom Squad, this alien is a global threat. I dont even know what some of these guys thinkingwhen trying to score over him inside... It is like watching video game NPCs that dont adapt and learn, no intelligence.

Why do you believe these proposals aren't close? I didn't say how many picks in the second one?
All 10 picks wouldn't necessarily be good. They could all be non-lottery pick 1sts.

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SGA alone is borderline superstar, I love VW, but I am not sure I am trading SGA for VW, In a vacuum I do, but if I am OKC, I dont know, let alone adding 10 first round picks. VW is all time great prospect, but lets not act like he guarantees 5 rings by default, he doesn't.

Thanks for clarifying.
Of course we never know how a guy will translate plus injuries are unpredictable but I'm assuming he's going to be Kareem/Duncan level impact.

To go full hypothetical, what would you give up for him if you knew he would be at that level for twenty years and you lose two or less seasons of those 20 due to injury? 10 picks, good ones, still too much?

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UcanUwill · Post #811 » by **UcanUwill** » Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:35 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:
Why do you believe these proposals aren't close? I didn't say how many picks in the second one?
All 10 picks wouldn't necessarily be good. They could all be non-lottery pick 1sts.

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SGA alone is borderline superstar, I love VW, but I am not sure I am trading SGA for VW, In a vacuum I do, but if I am OKC, I dont know, let alone adding 10 first round picks. VW is all time great prospect, but lets not act like he guarantees 5 rings by default, he doesn't.
Thanks for clarifying.
Of course we never know how a guy will translate plus injuries are unpredictable but I'm assuming he's going to be Kareem/Duncan level impact.

To go full hypothetical, what would you give up for him if you knew he would be at that level for twenty years and you lose two or less seasons of those 20 due to injury? 10 picks, good ones, still too much?

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I dont know, it is hard for me to value NBA assets. Nowadays league is very competitive, so even with all time great you will do nothing if you surround him with scrubs. Look at Luka or Jokic last year. Wemby would be better then those, but what is your chances to first convince him to stay with you if you trade all the assets for just him. If you are small market team, you need win big at the draft, but can you put all your eggs in one basket like that, even with GOAT level player, you need to nail draft at least few times to really get yourself a dynasty.

I think in this scenario, you solve one thing but you create other problems obviously. BUt yes, I would trade a lot for a GOAT, but your roadmap after that is as good as praying.

To me, LeBron is definitely the best player I have ever seen, but lets say he never left Cleveland, how many titles that guy gets, Cleveland was just crap, I mean they were contenders, kind off fake contenders, simply because they had best player in the world, but man, they kept surrounding him with borderline starter material players, and its not like they didnt had chance to draft something good.

LuessiT · Post #812 » by **LuessiT** » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:54 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:
Why do you believe these proposals aren't close? I didn't say how many picks in the second one?
All 10 picks wouldn't necessarily be good. They could all be non-lottery pick 1sts.

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SGA alone is borderline superstar, I love VW, but I am not sure I am trading SGA for VW, In a vacuum I do, but if I am OKC, I dont know, let alone adding 10 first round picks. VW is all time great prospect, but lets not act like he guarantees 5 rings by default, he doesn't.
Thanks for clarifying.
Of course we never know how a guy will translate plus injuries are unpredictable but I'm assuming he's going to be Kareem/Duncan level impact.

To go full hypothetical, what would you give up for him if you knew he would be at that level for twenty years and you lose two or less seasons of those 20 due to injury? 10 picks, good ones, still too much?

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Let's just say he is a Kareem/Duncan level prospect. There would still be a non insignificant chance he gets hurt. There would still be a chance something non basketball related derails him (e.g. Ja Morant). You need to look at the average outcome of VW. I don't think that is much better than SGA.
Talent isn't everything. You need a lot of things to go right to become an all time great. Saying no to the sure thing that is SGA for the potential of VW is a lot to give up.

zeebneeb · Post #813 » by **zeebneeb** » Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:02 pm

I only visit this thread on occasion, as to not raise my hopes, but man;

Cade
Ivey
Bojan
VW
Duren

*sigh* draft lottery May 16th!

MrBigShot · Post #814 » by **MrBigShot** » Sat Apr 1, 2023 11:38 am

I know we just got the 1st pick 2 years ago but for all the pistons have endured the last 15 years just give us one more pls

Post #815 » by **nate33** » Sat Apr 1, 2023 4:20 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:How many draft picks is Victor Wembanyama worth?

For example, if the Mavericks landed him could they ask OKC for SGA & 10 picks?

If Portland got him could they get Brooklyn to give them M. Bridges, Cam Johnson, DFS, and picks?

Would Dallas trade Wembanyama (plus bad contracts) for basically Brooklyn's entire team? Something like:

Wembanyama
Bertans
Hardaway Jr.
McGee
Bullock

for

Mikal Bridges
DFS
Claxton
Cam Thomas
Cameron Johnson (S&T)
Their 2029 pick back

It leaves Dallas with:
PG Kyrie/Hardy
SG Bridges/Thomas
SF DFS/Green
PF Luka/Johnson
C Claxton/Kleber

That's easily a title contender and all of their bad contracts are off the books - particularly if they can leverage their contender status into getting Kyrie to sign a more team friendly deal.

DoItALL9 · Post #816 » by **DoItALL9** » Sat Apr 1, 2023 8:43 pm

nate33 wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:How many draft picks is Victor Wembanyama worth?

For example, if the Mavericks landed him could they ask OKC for SGA & 10 picks?

If Portland got him could they get Brooklyn to give them M. Bridges, Cam Johnson, DFS, and picks?

Would Dallas trade Wembanyama (plus bad contracts) for basically Brooklyn's entire team? Something like:

Wembanyama
Bertans
Hardaway Jr.
McGee
Bullock

for

Mikal Bridges
DFS
Claxton
Cam Thomas
Cameron Johnson (S&T)
Their 2029 pick back

It leaves Dallas with:
PG Kyrie/Hardy
SG Bridges/Thomas
SF DFS/Green
PF Luka/Johnson
C Claxton/Kleber

That's easily a title contender and all of their bad contracts are off the books - particularly if they can leverage their contender status into getting Kyrie to sign a more team friendly deal.

Brooklyn would essentially have nothing except VW but they just might do it

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baldur · Post #817 » by **baldur** » Sun Apr 2, 2023 1:17 am

DoItALL9 wrote:What teams (with a realistic chance) would seriously consider trading Victor Wembanyama if they land the number one pick?

My guesses:
Portland
Orlando - unlikely but possible
Dallas
OKC - (I think they would probably trade other big pieces)
New Orleans - trading Zion would make more sense

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there is no realistic chance any team is trading away wembanyama in 2023.

The Rainmaker · Post #818 » by **The Rainmaker** » Sun Apr 2, 2023 3:48 am

Would be funny if this was actually true.

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timO · Post #819 » by **timO** » Sun Apr 2, 2023 10:47 am

zeebneeb wrote:I only visit this thread on occasion, as to not raise my hopes, but man;

Cade
Ivey
Bojan
VW
Duren

*sigh* draft lottery May 16th!

worst team dont get the #1

you are out man, dont tank too much next year

the pick goes to spurs or hornets 90%

stoo · Post #820 » by **stoo** » Sun Apr 2, 2023 4:29 pm

timO wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:I only visit this thread on occasion, as to not raise my hopes, but man;

Cade
Ivey
Bojan
VW
Duren

*sigh* draft lottery May 16th!

worst team dont get the #1

you are out man, dont tank too much next year

the pick goes to spurs or hornets 90%

Lamelo and Victor would be sick