2023 Draft Discussion Part III

[Rapsfan07]

Masai is gonna take anthony black watch

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Fairly certain Black is going in the Top 10. I think he has the chance to be a pretty decent player but we really don't need anymore big, long defenders who can't shoot the ball. Our roster is full of these guys as it is and look where that's gotten us.

So unless the prospect is the second coming of Giannis, I'd probably pass.

[Psubs]

Masai is gonna take anthony black watch

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He might be like a Doug Christie or Eddie Jones out there.

Would be interesting to see if Black gets drafted ahead of Rupert.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Masai is gonna take anthony black watch

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He’s top 10 value. We won’t be able to get him unless we trade up and would be super lucky if we did.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Can we draft Bayou Barbie she can finish at the rim better than Fred.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Masai is gonna take anthony black watch

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If he took Dalano and still believes he can teach shooting to really bad shooters then it's a definite possibility.

Meanwhile other teams will continue to rain 3s down on us while we sit here praying for years that our guys can strongly develop their muscle memory at a later age than most. Sounds like a good time Masai.

[ItsDanger]

Many players improve FT shooting over their careers. 3 pt shooting? That's entirely different. Do they ever consider the failure rate in getting someone from 30 to 35%? It has to be incredibly high. This 4 or 5 out offense isn't the only way. Honestly, having 2 or more below average 3 pt shooters in a 4 or 5 out scheme must be very inefficient offense. There are plenty of other options but they require work and sacrifice. I'm a big supporter of having 1 of the 5 players be very low usage on the court.

Observe UConn, Jackson plays that role. They have movement. Their players look hungry. Watch them on the bench. If they look like dogs waiting to jump on a bone when their coach calls their name. That's a winning team. Look at the Raps players, do they look hungry to you? The answer is a definite no.

[DG88]

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[BoyzNTheHood]

We haven’t discussed him at length, but with our draft history he’s one to watch for us

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[ItsDanger]

I didn't see a lot of offensive upside with Clowney. Definitely a guy you could see in NBA for 10 years though. But in what role? I see him as a 3 & D PF, nothing wrong with that but someone you start considering around mid 1st round. For the Raps, I'd only look at him if there is serious roster movement.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I didn't see a lot of offensive upside with Clowney. Definitely a guy you could see in NBA for 10 years though. But in what role? I see him as a 3 & D PF, nothing wrong with that but someone you start considering around mid 1st round. For the Raps, I'd only look at him if there is serious roster movement.

I agree with you. I’m just saying don’t be surprised if you hear his name called at our pick.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Many players improve FT shooting over their careers. 3 pt shooting? That's entirely different. Do they ever consider the failure rate in getting someone from 30 to 35%? It has to be incredibly high. This 4 or 5 out offense isn't the only way. Honestly, having 2 or more below average 3 pt shooters in a 4 or 5 out scheme must be very inefficient offense. There are plenty of other options but they require work and sacrifice. I'm a big supporter of having 1 of the 5 players be very low usage on the court.

Observe UConn, Jackson plays that role. They have movement. Their players look hungry. Watch them on the bench. If they look like dogs waiting to jump on a bone when their coach calls their name. That's a winning team. Look at the Raps players, do they look hungry to you? The answer is a definite no.

Yes that is why Nurse needs to be canned. Whole team needs a fresh start with og scottie yak and a new coach. Everyone else including precious can gtfo. We need two guards who can stroke it and get to the rim and play with eagerness and fire and we also could use a small ball C who can shoot 3s.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I had a dream that we traded Precious for a young player or a draft pick. I don’t remember which, but LOCK IT IN!!

[WuTang_CMB]

I had a dream that we traded Precious for a young player or a draft pick. I don’t remember which, but LOCK IT IN!!

i wish
value tanked

[Jerry Lucas]

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I doubt anyone who only played 13 minutes per game in college gets taken in the 1st round, however his per-40 rates as a freshman look very impressive. He might benefit from going back for his sophomore year, hopefully playing in a bigger role.

Per-40 rates:
21.2 PTS
17.2 REB
1.4 AST
3.1 TO
1.1 STL
5.5 BLK
5.6 Fouls

24.3 USG
33.1 PER
.633 TS%
.655 eFG%
.518 FTA rate
.260 WS/40 (.130 OWS and .130 DWS)
5.5 OBPM
11.2 BPM

[BoyzNTheHood]

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I doubt anyone who only played 13 minutes per game in college gets taken in the 1st round, however his per-40 rates as a freshman look very impressive. He might benefit from going back for his sophomore year, hopefully playing in a bigger role.

Per-40 rates
21.2 PTS
17.2 REB
1.4 AST
3.1 TO
1.1 STL
5.5 BLK
5.6 Fouls

24.3 USG
33.1 PER
.633 TS%
.655 eFG%
.518 FTA rate
.260 WS/40 (.130 OWS and .130 DWS)
5.5 OBPM
11.2 BPM

I’m not a fan of PER-40 because if you have a few good minutes it projects you as a beast. With that said, Clingon is a good prospect and could easily be taken this year. Im not sure about the first round, but A guy with his skill set could become very valuable in the modern NBA.

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I doubt anyone who only played 13 minutes per game in college gets taken in the 1st round, however his per-40 rates as a freshman look very impressive. He might benefit from going back for his sophomore year, hopefully playing in a bigger role.

Per-40 rates
21.2 PTS
17.2 REB
1.4 AST
3.1 TO
1.1 STL
5.5 BLK
5.6 Fouls

24.3 USG
33.1 PER
.633 TS%
.655 eFG%
.518 FTA rate
.260 WS/40 (.130 OWS and .130 DWS)
5.5 OBPM
11.2 BPM

I’m not a fan of PER-40 because if you have a few good minutes it projects you as a beast. With that said, Clingon is a good prospect and could easily be taken this year. Im not sure about the first round, but A guy with his skill set could become very valuable in the modern NBA.

I'm also not the biggest fan of per 40 rates with draft prospects either, but a guy who only played 13 MPG is most likely gonna look like a bum on his per game rates.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I doubt anyone who only played 13 minutes per game in college gets taken in the 1st round, however his per-40 rates as a freshman look very impressive. He might benefit from going back for his sophomore year, hopefully playing in a bigger role.

Per-40 rates
21.2 PTS
17.2 REB
1.4 AST
3.1 TO
1.1 STL
5.5 BLK
5.6 Fouls

24.3 USG
33.1 PER
.633 TS%
.655 eFG%
.518 FTA rate
.260 WS/40 (.130 OWS and .130 DWS)
5.5 OBPM
11.2 BPM

I’m not a fan of PER-40 because if you have a few good minutes it projects you as a beast. With that said, Clingon is a good prospect and could easily be taken this year. Im not sure about the first round, but A guy with his skill set could become very valuable in the modern NBA.

Idk where you're seeing 25 MPG, everywhere I've checked it says 13 MPG.

I'm also not the biggest fan of per 40 rates with draft prospects either, but a guy who only played 13 MPG is most likely gonna look like a bum on his per game rates.

I didn’t say anything about his minutes, except for the per 40 thing. Tbh I’m not the biggest fan of him, just posting a tweet for anyone who’s interested. I prefer a guy like Branden Carlson from Utah. He has a bit of a unicorn like game, and you probably won’t have to use a pick on him.

7’0” Centre with some ability to stretch it out, but also block shots. He also seems pretty quick.

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[Jerry Lucas]

I’m not a fan of PER-40 because if you have a few good minutes it projects you as a beast. With that said, Clingon is a good prospect and could easily be taken this year. Im not sure about the first round, but A guy with his skill set could become very valuable in the modern NBA.

Idk where you're seeing 25 MPG, everywhere I've checked it says 13 MPG.

I'm also not the biggest fan of per 40 rates with draft prospects either, but a guy who only played 13 MPG is most likely gonna look like a bum on his per game rates.

I didn’t say anything about his minutes, except for the per 40 thing. Tbh I’m not the biggest fan of him, just posting a tweet for anyone who’s interested. I prefer a guy like Branden Carlson from Utah. He has a bit of a unicorn like game, and you probably won’t have to use a pick on him.

7’0” Centre with some ability to stretch it out, but also block shots. He also seems pretty quick.

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You had said it initially and mentioned something about Devin Booker in college too but edited that out of your post and corrected yourself right before I replied. If you're gonna try and say that you never said it I won't stop you though. My only point was he only played 13 MPG, and I heavily doubt an NBA team would take a player who only played 13 MPG with a 1st round pick which is what Vecenie implied.

He seems interesting enough as a prospect that if he goes back for his sophomore year and plays really well in a bigger role, he could really stand out in a weak 2024 draft class.

[ItsDanger]

If Clingan declares, he'll be taken in mid 20s, if not higher. The NBA potential is obvious.

[WuTang_CMB]

About time
So dumb

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