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def need iq, grimes and obi to show signs of life in miami or we are toast

I think it's a couple things. Thibs rotations are ass. You can't have them sit a entire qtr and then come in the following qtr just sitting on there ass and expect them to perform.

IQ use to check in the game way earlier in the regular season. They just never seen to get into the flow of the game. That is on thibs.

RJ had the ability to start the game and get into the flow and turn it around. I'm not saying they should start (well maybe Grimes). But sub in IQ earlier and just get him into the flow faster. Lot of playoff basketball is a confidence things that you belong. Too many of the young guys looks tentative...like they aren't trying to make mistakes...you can't play that way.

I do hate when Thibs plays 3+ starters almost the entire quarter. But it is tough to trust IQ. Hope he breaks out but don’t think they can afford to keep playing him extended min when he comes out playing bad. He did get 27 and 29min before this game. I think it was the right call to pull him in this one.

They do need him though

[GONYK]

def need iq, grimes and obi to show signs of life in miami or we are toast

I think it's a couple things. Thibs rotations are ass. You can't have them sit a entire qtr and then come in the following qtr just sitting on there ass and expect them to perform.

IQ use to check in the game way earlier in the regular season. They just never seen to get into the flow of the game. That is on thibs.

RJ had the ability to start the game and get into the flow and turn it around. I'm not saying they should start (well maybe Grimes). But sub in IQ earlier and just get him into the flow faster. Lot of playoff basketball is a confidence things that you belong. Too many of the young guys looks tentative...like they aren't trying to make mistakes...you can't play that way.

Players should be able to hit open shots regardless of when they check in. Especially when they know they are playing.

We can't put everything on Thibs and absolve the players of just playing better.

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his ankle is still fked

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[K_ick_God]

JHart shows some ability to hit the big shot. For a non-main option, that's pretty good.

His game is seeing the ball gets around. That first half when people were down on him he still had 6 rebs and 5 assists and was 2 for 5. Other people have to hit their shots. Thibbs messed with bench chemistry for the 2nd year in the playoffs. Throws everyone off.

Good point. Grimes should go back to starting.

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And they beat Knicks without Julius Randle in game 1 lol clown

Game 3 will be a 70% Knick crowd

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def need iq, grimes and obi to show signs of life in miami or we are toast

I think it's a couple things. Thibs rotations are ass. You can't have them sit a entire qtr and then come in the following qtr just sitting on there ass and expect them to perform.

IQ use to check in the game way earlier in the regular season. They just never seen to get into the flow of the game. That is on thibs.

RJ had the ability to start the game and get into the flow and turn it around. I'm not saying they should start (well maybe Grimes). But sub in IQ earlier and just get him into the flow faster. Lot of playoff basketball is a confidence things that you belong. Too many of the young guys looks tentative...like they aren't trying to make mistakes...you can't play that way.

Players should be able to hit open shots regardless of when they check in. Especially when they know they are playing.

We can't put everything on Thibs and absolve the players of just playing better.

IQ is reverting back to bad habits. He got plenty of leash in the Cleveland series to play and was dogchit in that one too. There's only so long Thibs can be expected to give IQ a leash if he's going to continue to slump at this level. We literally didn't make a shot for the first 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter largely when Quick was running the offense.

It's the playoffs, we can't just sit on our hands and hope that someone breaks out of their slump. IQ needs a short leash until he can prove he can hit shots again.

[8516knicks]

Randle, Hart, Ihart, Brunson.. those guys were great tonight. A couple of big Quickley baskets also were clutch.

Yes, IQ did step up there. Everyone has convinced me playoffs are different. But his handle is shaky now and his D isn't near regular season yet.

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def need iq, grimes and obi to show signs of life in miami or we are toast

I think it's a couple things. Thibs rotations are ass. You can't have them sit a entire qtr and then come in the following qtr just sitting on there ass and expect them to perform.

IQ use to check in the game way earlier in the regular season. They just never seen to get into the flow of the game. That is on thibs.

RJ had the ability to start the game and get into the flow and turn it around. I'm not saying they should start (well maybe Grimes). But sub in IQ earlier and just get him into the flow faster. Lot of playoff basketball is a confidence things that you belong. Too many of the young guys looks tentative...like they aren't trying to make mistakes...you can't play that way.

Players should be able to hit open shots regardless of when they check in. Especially when they know they are playing.

We can't put everything on Thibs and absolve the players of just playing better.

yes and no. I hear you...but basketball is such a rhythm sport. Just throwing a guy out there after sitting a while and expect him to flourish in 3 minute spurts just isn't something a young player is probably accustom to.

This was the whole thing with Obi early in his career...when you play such small minutes you are out there playing not to mess up instead of playing aggressive and confident.

IQ almost looks neutered out there...playing not to f*ck up.

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Randle's presence was needed in the 4th quarter of Game 1, especially. We couldn't create.

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Miami is also just such a well coached team...they play so well together...a lot of those guys have been in that system for a while and it shows. The back cuts and the actions they run are very difficult to guard.

And they know exactly who to attack.

Obi is getting picked on in the most subtle ways every time he is in the game. Spo is great.

[mpharris36]

def need iq, grimes and obi to show signs of life in miami or we are toast

I think it's a couple things. Thibs rotations are ass. You can't have them sit a entire qtr and then come in the following qtr just sitting on there ass and expect them to perform.

IQ use to check in the game way earlier in the regular season. They just never seen to get into the flow of the game. That is on thibs.

RJ had the ability to start the game and get into the flow and turn it around. I'm not saying they should start (well maybe Grimes). But sub in IQ earlier and just get him into the flow faster. Lot of playoff basketball is a confidence things that you belong. Too many of the young guys looks tentative...like they aren't trying to make mistakes...you can't play that way.

I do hate when Thibs plays 3+ starters almost the entire quarter. But it is tough to trust IQ. Hope he breaks out but don’t think they can afford to keep playing him extended min when he comes out playing bad. He did get 27 and 29min before this game. I think it was the right call to pull him in this one.

They do need him though

he should better stagger minutes though. RJ was hot early in the game so I get keeping him in and Randle was the only other one scoring...in that case he could have sat Brunson a bit more early in the game when he was playing poorly.

IQ at minimum will defend as well. Its the same reason I wouldn't mind bringing in Duece for some short spurts....we needed stops last night...we were playing fine offense for the most part.

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i'm gonna quote everyone's iq takes from the gt in the future btw

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Miami is also just such a well coached team...they play so well together...a lot of those guys have been in that system for a while and it shows. The back cuts and the actions they run are very difficult to guard.

And they know exactly who to attack.

Obi is getting picked on in the most subtle ways every time he is in the game. Spo is great.

Brunson is being isolated nearly every possession when he's in. They know he is a bad defender and then with his ankle on top of that they are running him through so much off ball action.

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And they beat Knicks without Julius Randle in game 1 lol clown

Game 3 will be a 70% Knick crowd

knicks def gonna have to play well and give our fans something to cheer about for it to be felt. miami is hella flip floppy

[mpharris36]

This is the same with Grimes as well...I think it would help to get these guys in the game earlier to just see if there jumper is falling and get them into better rhythm. If it does work you can always pull the plug. But young guys def need to get out there instead of just sitting on the bench and then expecting them to start the 4th without playing at all in the 3rd qtr and expect them to perform at a high level.

Spo is showing a master class on how to use your rotations.

[GONYK]

I think it's a couple things. Thibs rotations are ass. You can't have them sit a entire qtr and then come in the following qtr just sitting on there ass and expect them to perform.

IQ use to check in the game way earlier in the regular season. They just never seen to get into the flow of the game. That is on thibs.

RJ had the ability to start the game and get into the flow and turn it around. I'm not saying they should start (well maybe Grimes). But sub in IQ earlier and just get him into the flow faster. Lot of playoff basketball is a confidence things that you belong. Too many of the young guys looks tentative...like they aren't trying to make mistakes...you can't play that way.

Players should be able to hit open shots regardless of when they check in. Especially when they know they are playing.

We can't put everything on Thibs and absolve the players of just playing better.

IQ is reverting back to bad habits. He got plenty of leash in the Cleveland series to play and was dogchit in that one too. There's only so long Thibs can be expected to give IQ a leash if he's going to continue to slump at this level. We literally didn't make a shot for the first 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter largely when Quick was running the offense.

It's the playoffs, we can't just sit on our hands and hope that someone breaks out of their slump. IQ needs a short leash until he can prove he can hit shots again.

He's on a short leash. He got 9 minutes last night.

You know IQ is shook when he reverts to the "Headfake open 3, dribble, step back 3" nonsense.

At the same time, we need him. He's a much more complete player than Deuce and he had a few big buckets in the 4th last night. Plus his defense is still very strong.

He's the engine of the second unit. His biggest value was that he was always ready to go. He's got to find himself.

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Players should be able to hit open shots regardless of when they check in. Especially when they know they are playing.

We can't put everything on Thibs and absolve the players of just playing better.

IQ is reverting back to bad habits. He got plenty of leash in the Cleveland series to play and was dogchit in that one too. There's only so long Thibs can be expected to give IQ a leash if he's going to continue to slump at this level. We literally didn't make a shot for the first 5 minutes of the 2nd quarter largely when Quick was running the offense.

It's the playoffs, we can't just sit on our hands and hope that someone breaks out of their slump. IQ needs a short leash until he can prove he can hit shots again.

He's on a short leash. He got 9 minutes last night.

You know IQ is shook when he reverts to the "Headfake open 3, dribble, step back 3" nonsense.

At the same time, we need him. He's a much more complete player than Deuce and he had a few big buckets in the 4th last night. Plus his defense is still very strong.

He's the engine of the second unit. His biggest value was that he was always ready to go. He's got to find himself.

Yet in the regular season he probably check in with 6 minutes to go in the 1st qtr...now he checking in in the start of the 2nd qtr.

Now a lot of that is because RJ is playing so well...and during the regular season it was RJ that came out early for IQ. But RJ is also fading late in games because he is playing a lot of minutes early. So I do think a slight adjustment to get either IQ or Grimes in early...could net some better results.