ImageImageImage

Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2)

Moderators: bisme37, Darthlukey, canman1971, Shak_Celts, Parliament10, shackles10, snowman, Froob

What was most Ass-of-Shameful?

Crap shooting
11
9%
Couldn't get stops
17
14%
Inconsistent intensity/aggressiveness
11
9%
Bonehead errors
3
2%
Not enough players produced
7
6%
A particular player was the ass of shame
2
2%
We're down 3-2 to the damn Sixers
17
14%
Everything I'm just pissed
33
27%
Other/Coach/Team
22
18%
 
Total votes: 123

Tyakack
Head Coach
Posts: 6,082
And1: 9,551
Joined: May 14, 2014
   

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#381 » by Tyakack » Wed May 10, 2023 12:54 pm

Red2 wrote:I think Joe has to be fired if we lose this series. He may one day become s good nba coach but he f’d up our season


I would argue Brad or whoever's decision it was to hire Joe F'd up our season. It's not Joe's fault he sucks. He just simply isn't seasoned enough to lead a team with championship aspirations... Terrible decision to hire him. Our season was over before it started.
Triple7
RealGM
Posts: 12,636
And1: 9,549
Joined: Aug 23, 2018
 

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#382 » by Triple7 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:03 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
Marvel wrote:We definitely have a big man problem. Al too old, Rob too injured.


100% true. People have been saying since day one that the Celtics bigs are an issue and Stevens didn't do anything to address it.

You're telling me Dwight Howard for 10 minutes would be any worse than Horford?


Hey don’t say Howard. That’s a mortal sin for some posters here. Some even thinks kornet is better haha.
User avatar
Celts17Pride
RealGM
Posts: 68,941
And1: 71,083
Joined: Nov 27, 2005

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#383 » by Celts17Pride » Wed May 10, 2023 1:04 pm

Read on Twitter


Just a fun fact.
Triple7
RealGM
Posts: 12,636
And1: 9,549
Joined: Aug 23, 2018
 

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#384 » by Triple7 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:08 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:In my opinion the 2022-2023 Boston Celtics is a team too full of themselves. They act like they are 4 time champions. I’ve never sensed the hunger with this team. Look at Philly last night, that was a hungry team. That team looked like they were willing to run through a brick wall to get the victory. The Celtics not so much.

Never understood this Celtics team so who knows? Maybe they will win the next two games easily. We’ll see. Would love for the Celtics to show some fight the next few games. Let’s see some effort.

It's hard to know what it is but it really does come across that they think they are so good that they can pick and choose when bring the right intensity. In some ways it's felt these playoffs as if they believed they would get back to the finals and they needed to manage their physical load to ensure peak at finals time so they wouldn't run out of puff last year.

They acted like it was a forgone conclusion they would be in the Finals and stopped working. Entitled.

Sad part is they are the most talented team


Exactly the right word!
I’ve heard our guys complains non stop to the refs even during timeouts jeez! Smh
User avatar
Celts17Pride
RealGM
Posts: 68,941
And1: 71,083
Joined: Nov 27, 2005

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#385 » by Celts17Pride » Wed May 10, 2023 1:15 pm

"The energy wasn't right," said Celtics guard Marcus Smart. "It could've been better, way better. We know that. We understand that. Tonight speaks volumes. It shows that, if you're not ready ... this can happen."


I still can't wrap my head around this comment. How can you "not be ready" for a Game 5 at home with the series tied 2-2? :(
Triple7
RealGM
Posts: 12,636
And1: 9,549
Joined: Aug 23, 2018
 

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#386 » by Triple7 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:15 pm

Oh well, the bright side of losing this series, is this team will be a lot different next season. Joe would be gone, trades coming up. It’s kind of exciting in a way. Sick of all the disappointments and frustrations with this team. Tatum has gone from dunking on lebron’s face his rookie year, to a euro stepping 3pt chucking player with butter fingers. So sad!
jfs1000d
RealGM
Posts: 28,099
And1: 14,948
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#387 » by jfs1000d » Wed May 10, 2023 1:19 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Maybe it's okay to accept that the sixes are just the better team. They have a better coach, the defense is better they have the best player on their team and arguably the second best player with Harden.

Sixers are not the better team.

I dont want to hear about it. Basketball wise, this Celtics team is nba caliber and construction. Issue is cultural.

Way too casual and Mazulla is coaching like a bum.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jfs1000d
RealGM
Posts: 28,099
And1: 14,948
Joined: Jun 25, 2004

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#388 » by jfs1000d » Wed May 10, 2023 1:20 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Let's not forget that Pierce and the
Cs were up 3-2 against Lebron and Miami in 2012.

And Cs were also up 3-2 against Lebron and the Cavs in 2018.

Both times the Cs ended up losing those series.

So it's not over.

Game 6 will be the hardest game of the season for the Sixers.

I would rather be the 76ers right now. Not the Celtics.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
The_Ghost_of_JB
RealGM
Posts: 22,620
And1: 18,722
Joined: Mar 04, 2010
Location: In a van down by the river.
   

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#389 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed May 10, 2023 1:20 pm

Triple7 wrote:Oh well, the bright side of losing this series, is this team will be a lot different next season. Joe would be gone, trades coming up. It’s kind of exciting in a way. Sick of all the disappointments and frustrations with this team. Tatum has gone from dunking on lebron’s face his rookie year, to a euro stepping 3pt chucking player with butter fingers. So sad!


People are delusional if they think Joe is going to get fired.

I think the reality is though they're probably just going to run it back. I do think with Brown being in a contract yet he could potentially get traded though
*Insert witty signature here.*
User avatar
shackles10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 12,362
And1: 7,224
Joined: May 13, 2004
Location: Indiana
 

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#390 » by shackles10 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:21 pm

As much as the defense has been problematic, if we can't score we can't set up our defense as well, we play differently trying to catch up, and basically we can't win. There's been lots of discussion over the year about this player and that player's numbers aren't as impressive because scoring is up in the NBA and without getting into a player discussion, it's true that scoring is up. We can't just acknowledge it for putting down a player you don't care for or think is overrated and then ignore increased scoring when it applies to the entire team. 103 in 2023 is not going to cut it. Again, the defense is a problem, but we should be able to outscore 115, which is the number the Sixers have put up the last 2 games. Offensively, it's been partly cold shooting, part settling for 3's when we know we have cold shooting, not running any sets really and just "seeing what the defense gives us", and what I feel is most important... not going with any pace.

That last one is driving me crazy! There is zero reason why at the end of a 48 minutes game with our depth that Embiid (known for poor conditioning), Harden (known for poor conditioning before he was older even), and Tucker (older than Joe) should have more energy than our guys. It would be a good problem if our guys were tired because it meant they were running their asses off and hustling all game, because how bad would their guys be if ours were tired. We have the depth to sub for a breather then bring the guys back in (yeah yeah I know, Joe has to use the depth). Play with some pace! The defense will not be as set up, the ball will move better, and you will probably even see more shots go in as you're in rhythm instead of just standing around then suddenly having to hoist up a 3. We don't call timeouts at the end of the game so they can't setup their defense, but we ignore the majority of the game that still holds true. Rebound the ball, please limit the frustrating offensive rebounds because we didn't play hard enough (getting out hustled) or didn't play smart enough (poor positioning/guys rotating to the wrong player/etc.), and then GO!

Last night sucked hard, but we're not out quite yet. We literally came back down 2-3 just last year. I know last year is over, but it's pretty much the same core + Brogdon. JUST DO IT! I don't want to hear excuses in the post-game and tweets, just get it done.
London2Boston
RealGM
Posts: 10,128
And1: 13,003
Joined: Apr 14, 2014
     

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#391 » by London2Boston » Wed May 10, 2023 1:22 pm

I wonder if Philly’s energy won’t be right in Game 6 when they come out? Probably not because they aren’t a bunch of Divas who think they are better than they are.
Tyakack
Head Coach
Posts: 6,082
And1: 9,551
Joined: May 14, 2014
   

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#392 » by Tyakack » Wed May 10, 2023 1:22 pm

This core needs to learn the same lessons over and over only to never learn anything. It's gotten to the point that I don't take anything they say seriously in press conferences. They talk a good game but their actions tell another story.

Many here said it best, they carry themselves like they are multiple time champions. Not like a team that is hungry to get that first title. They wanna win, but they don't need to win. That's how this team plays.
User avatar
The_Ghost_of_JB
RealGM
Posts: 22,620
And1: 18,722
Joined: Mar 04, 2010
Location: In a van down by the river.
   

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#393 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Wed May 10, 2023 1:23 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:Maybe it's okay to accept that the sixes are just the better team. They have a better coach, the defense is better they have the best player on their team and arguably the second best player with Harden.

Sixers are not the better team.

I dont want to hear about it. Basketball wise, this Celtics team is nba caliber and construction. Issue is cultural.

Way too casual and Mazulla is coaching like a bum.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


Again Philly has the better coach and the two best players in the series and if the roles were reversed not one person would be saying Philly's the better team.
*Insert witty signature here.*
philing00
Senior
Posts: 654
And1: 212
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
     

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#394 » by philing00 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:26 pm

I thought our energy was there at the start but Philly came to play with top notch D and we weren’t expecting that. Our offense had no structure all night, just set a screen and hope for the best. Our players have no composure and our coach doesn’t help them at all. Big Al is done for these playoffs. Shooting 45% from 3 during regular season, he’s just coming back to his average. Play Grant, Hauser, Pritchard. Does Pritchard ever miss a 3 from the left? If we didn’t miss so many FTs and Horford hit a third of his 3s, it might’ve been a different story.
Can’t stop Harden, Embiid Pnr, stupid drop coverage. Shooting practice for them.
MagicBagley18
RealGM
Posts: 14,831
And1: 20,333
Joined: Feb 15, 2019
   

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#395 » by MagicBagley18 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:30 pm

To me this is all about defense….we are the 10th ranked playoff team in defense I believe-if you can’t get stops you can’t get out in transition and run on them.

The offense will come and go but the defense has to always be there and it hasn’t at all. Just a joke really
Ben-N1ce
RealGM
Posts: 21,852
And1: 20,259
Joined: Jul 18, 2009
       

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#396 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed May 10, 2023 1:36 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:To me this is all about defense….we are the 10th ranked playoff team in defense I believe-if you can’t get stops you can’t get out in transition and run on them.

The offense will come and go but the defense has to always be there and it hasn’t at all. Just a joke really

I love how Embiid got 4 wide open FT jumpers in a row on a high pick pocket pass from Harden.He missed one so it was good defense!!!
User avatar
shackles10
Forum Mod - Celtics
Forum Mod - Celtics
Posts: 12,362
And1: 7,224
Joined: May 13, 2004
Location: Indiana
 

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#397 » by shackles10 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:36 pm

MagicBagley18 wrote:To me this is all about defense….we are the 10th ranked playoff team in defense I believe-if you can’t get stops you can’t get out in transition and run on them.

The offense will come and go but the defense has to always be there and it hasn’t at all. Just a joke really


As soon as I'm ready to blame the offense I see a stat like that one showing us at 10th and I'm ready to blame the defense again. Sad really a case could be made for both and just shows we really aren't playing well on either side in these losses.
makubesu
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,749
And1: 2,246
Joined: Jun 26, 2017
       

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#398 » by makubesu » Wed May 10, 2023 1:39 pm

I just want to say, I think we all agree this core is mentally weak. Down 3-2, put on your big boy pants and win 2. That’s not a high bar, teams do it all the time. It’s just about refusing to quit. I’d love to see it from our guys, and shorten what is sure to be a long offseason…
Celticsfan100
Sophomore
Posts: 111
And1: 103
Joined: Jul 26, 2022

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#399 » by Celticsfan100 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:42 pm

Last year when we lost to the Bucks game 5 at least we played good and had an elite defense. There was hope of stealing game 6. Last night we got blown out. Yes when a team is up 12-14 points the entire game it’s a blowout. Losing a game without Embiid, no urgency, no defense. This series is over. You are not overcoming these bad habits.
chrisab123
RealGM
Posts: 15,216
And1: 10,627
Joined: Jul 07, 2012
         

Re: Celts Build Brick Wall, Put Their Backs Against It! G5 Loss vs PHI 5/9 (PHI leads 3-2) 

Post#400 » by chrisab123 » Wed May 10, 2023 1:48 pm

Marvel wrote:
Green89 wrote:
Read on Twitter

And then Damon. :nonono:


But coaching isn't an issue though... :noway:

There's no reason this team should be down to this friggin team. No disrespect to the Sixers but look at the talent on this roster next to almost any other team in the league. Jesus christ they need a real coach.

Return to Boston Celtics