2023 Draft Discussion Part 4

[Yallbecrazy]

After reviewing the two, Cissoko and A. Black are similar types of players. You can probably put out a lineup with Cissoko as a facilataor and he's a solid rebounder. His shot is better too.

I think Black is a little more quick twitch bouncy but Cissoko is stronger.

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Black has defense in his DNA, better handle. Cissoko plays more in control, looks like he has more scoring potential.

I'm lower on Black as his shot looks very suspect and guards need to be able to shoot. Also his turnovers are very high, reminds me a bit of a much worse shooting Cade.

[HumbleRen]

After reviewing the two, Cissoko and A. Black are similar types of players. You can probably put out a lineup with Cissoko as a facilataor and he's a solid rebounder. His shot is better too.

I think Black is a little more quick twitch bouncy but Cissoko is stronger.

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Something about Cissoko just pops out more in comparison to Black.

[dozo]

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[ATLTimekeeper]

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I thought they had to measure, or is that next year?

[ATLTimekeeper]

I'm lower on Black as his shot looks very suspect and guards need to be able to shoot. Also his turnovers are very high, reminds me a bit of a much worse shooting Cade.

I said months ago that Black and Cason are nice players but you should not tank for them. If I wanted to be sure I'd get a solid10 year pro, I'd go with either, but they both are low ceiling guards. Cissoko has a bit of appeal as he was a higher usage player in Spain and he has some shiftiness with his handle to go along with some extreme creativity passing the ball. Someone takes Coulibaly and I'm happy to move on with Cissoko or Miller.

[dozo]

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Both analysts think another Tiger could end up in the NBA next season in graduate senior guard D’Moi Hodge. The Tortola, British Virgin Islands native broke Mizzou’s single-season record and was ranked third in the nation by swiping 91 steals this year. Hodge also proved to be a prolific shooter, sinking 100 of his 250 attempts from long range.

Hodge hasn’t shown to be an exceptional ball-handler and, listed at 6-foot-4, doesn’t have the size to be especially versatile on defense. Being 24 years old, Hodge’s chances of being drafted are slim. But that doesn’t mean he won’t find his way onto a team. And with no college eligibility remaining, going pro is his only choice.

Baumbach envisions Hodge signing a two-way contract after the draft is over, which would allow him to split time between the NBA and the G League. Baumbach doesn’t think Hodge’s main competition is with the teenagers in this year’s draft class, but rather players who are already in the pros who’ve bounced around a bit and haven’t secured a consistent role

[dozo]

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I thought they had to measure, or is that next year?

I believe its mandatory starting next year. Most will do the measurements but will opt-out of the scrimmages and agility testing. Does Scottie get drafted 4th if he only deceided to do measurements at the combine?

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Both analysts think another Tiger could end up in the NBA next season in graduate senior guard D’Moi Hodge. The Tortola, British Virgin Islands native broke Mizzou’s single-season record and was ranked third in the nation by swiping 91 steals this year. Hodge also proved to be a prolific shooter, sinking 100 of his 250 attempts from long range.

Hodge hasn’t shown to be an exceptional ball-handler and, listed at 6-foot-4, doesn’t have the size to be especially versatile on defense. Being 24 years old, Hodge’s chances of being drafted are slim. But that doesn’t mean he won’t find his way onto a team. And with no college eligibility remaining, going pro is his only choice.

Baumbach envisions Hodge signing a two-way contract after the draft is over, which would allow him to split time between the NBA and the G League. Baumbach doesn’t think Hodge’s main competition is with the teenagers in this year’s draft class, but rather players who are already in the pros who’ve bounced around a bit and haven’t secured a consistent role

I really think he's getting drafted. He's too good. Perfect fit for the Raptors, too.

[Psubs]

After reviewing the two, Cissoko and A. Black are similar types of players. You can probably put out a lineup with Cissoko as a facilataor and he's a solid rebounder. His shot is better too.

I think Black is a little more quick twitch bouncy but Cissoko is stronger.

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Black has defense in his DNA, better handle. Cissoko plays more in control, looks like he has more scoring potential.

What makes you think that Black has a better handle than Cissoko? Cissoko is a PG for the France junior national team and sported a better A/T than Black. Black got more opportunities to handle the ball because Nick Smith Jr was hurt most of the season. Cissoko was able to showcase his ball-handling more late in the season when Scoot was shut down.

I'm lower on Black as his shot looks very suspect and guards need to be able to shoot. Also his turnovers are very high, reminds me a bit of a much worse shooting Cade.

I said months ago that Black and Cason are nice players but you should not tank for them. If I wanted to be sure I'd get a solid10 year pro, I'd go with either, but they both are low ceiling guards. Cissoko has a bit of appeal as he was a higher usage player in Spain and he has some shiftiness with his handle to go along with some extreme creativity passing the ball. Someone takes Coulibaly and I'm happy to move on with Cissoko or Miller.

Cissoko has flare with his behind the back passes and accuracy with long-distance bounce passes, pocket passes, but he doesn't celebrate or show up opponents. I trust him to make the right basketball play. If can't get Cason, or Dick, I would like to reach for Cissoko.

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Not a fan of Kobe Brown as an NBA player

[ItsDanger]

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Both analysts think another Tiger could end up in the NBA next season in graduate senior guard D’Moi Hodge. The Tortola, British Virgin Islands native broke Mizzou’s single-season record and was ranked third in the nation by swiping 91 steals this year. Hodge also proved to be a prolific shooter, sinking 100 of his 250 attempts from long range.

Hodge hasn’t shown to be an exceptional ball-handler and, listed at 6-foot-4, doesn’t have the size to be especially versatile on defense. Being 24 years old, Hodge’s chances of being drafted are slim. But that doesn’t mean he won’t find his way onto a team. And with no college eligibility remaining, going pro is his only choice.

Baumbach envisions Hodge signing a two-way contract after the draft is over, which would allow him to split time between the NBA and the G League. Baumbach doesn’t think Hodge’s main competition is with the teenagers in this year’s draft class, but rather players who are already in the pros who’ve bounced around a bit and haven’t secured a consistent role

I really think he's getting drafted. He's too good. Perfect fit for the Raptors, too.

His stock is rising, which is bad news for raptor fans. He might prefer to go undrafted and decide his future destination.

[Dalek]

I can't really see what is missing from Colby Jones, especially in this draft class his age could be forgiven. He fits what most teams want on the floor in close games and/or playoff games.

-Can play either guard spot and is a good enough playmaker to at least be a secondary
-Can guard 1-4 positions
-Shoots threes at 38%
-6'6 height and good wingspan
-Average to good NBA athlete (maybe a bit Brogdon like)

To me there is no question this guy will get on a NBA floor tomorrow.

I've been saying this from the start. He should get NBA minutes from the start and will likely be a valuable contributor for years to come.

The only reason I can see for him constantly being mocked so low is because he doesn't have a very high ceiling. Teams want that hidden gem superstar and rationalize swinging for that over taking what is a pretty sure thing but is unlikely to be a star. For me, if you're picking that late and there's a guy who is guaranteed to be a high level, two way rotation guy, I take that and run.

Really, really hope we find a way to acquire a late first and grab him. He's been my guy from the start and this team desperately needs a do-it-all guard with size. Even if all he becomes is a back up, that's the most depth we've had at that position in 4 years and still has room to improve. I see a Josh Hart floor, Malcolm Brogdon ceiling.

Jones could very well turn out to be a player, but there is absolutely risk there. He's a jack of all trades, master of none type. Below the rim athlete, average defender, with a one year sample of decent shooting. He'll play a supporting role in the league, so is also unlikely to get the opportunity to showcase the one skill that sets him apart - passing. For every Malcolm Brogdon, there are many more Justin Andersons, Robert Woodards and David Johnsons. Jones reminds me more of Wendell Moore than any of the other names mentioned

I think he leans more to the Malcolm Brogdon end of things, personally. The failed guys you mentioned are nowhere near the leader Jones is for Xavier, which was a veteran heavy team. He effectively ran the offense for a lot of stretches and became a go-to scorer for them. He led them to a Sweet 16 as the primary PG and they also won their Big East tournament. He also was the best player on the floor twice against UConn and led them to two wins.

Regarding the athleticism, yes he is below the rim but he has sneaky athleticism and can get up when he has head of steam much like Brogdon. He still attacks the basket he leans on his floater. Good numbers for a guard:
61% at the rim
30.5 FTR

From what I see, he has a good handle, he passes well in pick and roll, boards and just can play a number of roles on offense and defense. Shooting is only one year of growth, but still promising. He is a great utility guy which can really solidify the bench and spot start.

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Cam Whitmore = Rodney Rodgers

Since Scottie has cooled off this sophomore season I think he's still around Chris Webber.

[Yallbecrazy]

I'm lower on Black as his shot looks very suspect and guards need to be able to shoot. Also his turnovers are very high, reminds me a bit of a much worse shooting Cade.

I said months ago that Black and Cason are nice players but you should not tank for them. If I wanted to be sure I'd get a solid10 year pro, I'd go with either, but they both are low ceiling guards. Cissoko has a bit of appeal as he was a higher usage player in Spain and he has some shiftiness with his handle to go along with some extreme creativity passing the ball. Someone takes Coulibaly and I'm happy to move on with Cissoko or Miller.

I disagree with Cason being low ceiling, I can see his likely ceiling being a better shooting, better passing, slightly worse defensive Marcus Smart. That's an all star player.

[Dalek]

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I am really happy and a bit surprised that Olivier-Maxence Prosper got the invite directly to the Combine. He might have better draft upside than I thought. He is a lot like Dorian Finney Smith - really big and good athlete who is a defensive stopper. His shooting from the corners got a lot better.

Also really excited to see Jordan Walsh in action. Even if he just test and is measured, I want to see him stand out. He is the freak athlete of this class.

Tristan Vukcevic is going to also be a guy to watch. I feel like he is being hidden in Europe, but he is a really skilled big.

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Think he projects more as a backup C. Will his hometown team give him any serious consideration? Doubtful.

[OakleyDokely]

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nothing says elite prospect like a disappointing college career followed by skipping the combine.