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Re: Bucks Offseason Thread - Trade, news, re-tool discussion 

Post#1401 » by machu46 » Thu May 11, 2023 12:16 am

Getting FVV without giving up our big 3 is probably a best case realisticish scenario for this off-season to me or close to it


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Post#1402 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu May 11, 2023 1:18 am

raferfenix wrote: Horst needed to prevent the reallocation of those same Tucker dollars to Grayson Allen.


tuckers dollars went to portis.

allen was the replacement for ddv at good market value
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Post#1403 » by ReasonablySober » Thu May 11, 2023 1:24 am

Best case scenario (for me at least) is the Bucks getting younger with draft picks and guys on rookie deals, probably at the expense of Khris and Jrue, and Giannis signing a three year $173 million extension.

That would be cool.
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Post#1404 » by ABucksFan » Thu May 11, 2023 1:27 am

If we could flip Khris for Beal, I think I'd do it. I know people hate on Beal, but in a new environment, better coaching and playing with Giannis, I think he could thrive.
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Post#1405 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu May 11, 2023 1:43 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Best case scenario (for me at least) is the Bucks getting younger with draft picks and guys on rookie deals, porobably at the expense of Khris and Jrue, and Giannis signing a three year $173 million extension.

That would be cool.


so basically wed be the trailblazers?
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Post#1406 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu May 11, 2023 1:44 am

machu46 wrote:Getting FVV without giving up our big 3 is probably a best case realisticish scenario for this off-season to me or close to it


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i guess i could be down with that especially if nurse comes on

but personally id go 100% in on switchable long defenders and not worry about offense but thats just me
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Post#1407 » by ReasonablySober » Thu May 11, 2023 1:52 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Best case scenario (for me at least) is the Bucks getting younger with draft picks and guys on rookie deals, porobably at the expense of Khris and Jrue, and Giannis signing a three year $173 million extension.

That would be cool.


so basically wed be the trailblazers?


Yes, GoS. We'd be identical if you really think about it.
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Post#1408 » by German Athens » Thu May 11, 2023 2:57 am

Pretty interesting proposal on the trade board

Bobby, Grayson, pat

For either

Poole, pbj, #19

Or

Poole, moody
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Post#1409 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu May 11, 2023 3:16 am

I don't trust pooles decision making on or off the court. But bell I do that for 19 and a flyer on PBJ
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Post#1410 » by machu46 » Thu May 11, 2023 4:35 am

German Athens wrote:Pretty interesting proposal on the trade board

Bobby, Grayson, pat

For either

Poole, pbj, #19

Or

Poole, moody


I would do that in a heartbeat.
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Post#1411 » by ejn1214 » Thu May 11, 2023 4:40 am

Can we just stop with Poole. I come here for some smart takes, but the Poole talk is so dumb. I could maybe understand it if it was a buy low on a good contract, but he might have the worst contract in the league. Even if he was decent, it's blatantly obvious his teammates dislike him, and he has locker room issue. I feel like I'm going crazy. It makes absolutely no sense.
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Post#1412 » by LuessiT » Thu May 11, 2023 5:37 am

ejn1214 wrote:Can we just stop with Poole. I come here for some smart takes, but the Poole talk is so dumb. I could maybe understand it if it was a buy low on a good contract, but he might have the worst contract in the league. Even if he was decent, it's blatantly obvious his teammates dislike him, and he has locker room issue. I feel like I'm going crazy. It makes absolutely no sense.


Except the Poole talk is a really good take if his real value is anywhere close to where the public perception has him. He’s a 20ppg scorer on solid efficiency with a well rounded shot profile while displaying skills which can lead to even bigger growth.
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Post#1413 » by machu46 » Thu May 11, 2023 6:33 am

LuessiT wrote:
ejn1214 wrote:Can we just stop with Poole. I come here for some smart takes, but the Poole talk is so dumb. I could maybe understand it if it was a buy low on a good contract, but he might have the worst contract in the league. Even if he was decent, it's blatantly obvious his teammates dislike him, and he has locker room issue. I feel like I'm going crazy. It makes absolutely no sense.


Except the Poole talk is a really good take if his real value is anywhere close to where the public perception has him. He’s a 20ppg scorer on solid efficiency with a well rounded shot profile while displaying skills which can lead to even bigger growth.

Yeah, giving up Jrue or Middleton for him is probably a no go, but if it’s just costing us a couple of our role players, I would definitely be happy to gamble on him. I doubt the offer being proposed above is actually something Golden State would do.


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Post#1414 » by Daver » Thu May 11, 2023 11:52 am

FVV or rozier had ypur choice who bring more to the table
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Post#1415 » by Daver » Thu May 11, 2023 11:52 am

FVV or rozier had ypur choice who bring more to the table
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Post#1416 » by German Athens » Thu May 11, 2023 11:52 am

Yeah, we’re one year removed from pretty much everyone envying the warriors for having Poole. He also had an insanely efficient post season last year, >65% TS, averaging 17 a game.

I’d for sure buy low on that at the cost of those role players.


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Post#1417 » by chonestown » Thu May 11, 2023 12:22 pm

Jordan Poole have it all
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Post#1418 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Thu May 11, 2023 12:40 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Best case scenario (for me at least) is the Bucks getting younger with draft picks and guys on rookie deals, porobably at the expense of Khris and Jrue, and Giannis signing a three year $173 million extension.

That would be cool.


so basically wed be the trailblazers?


Yes, GoS. We'd be identical if you really think about it.


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Post#1419 » by Ruben Quevedo » Thu May 11, 2023 1:05 pm

I’m out on Poole now.

Getting benched this series is a major red flag. His defense and effort is pathetic, and he’s just not a very smart player.

So talented on offense but I think it’s fool’s gold. Stay away.
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Post#1420 » by raferfenix » Thu May 11, 2023 1:08 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
raferfenix wrote: Horst needed to prevent the reallocation of those same Tucker dollars to Grayson Allen.


tuckers dollars went to portis.

allen was the replacement for ddv at good market value


Fair point that we could have just as easily passed on Portis and kept Tucker.

That probably was the plan until he said he’d come back on the extreme cheap.

It’s hard to knock the Bucks for taking Bobby up on that offer. Of course we could have kept them both too and still acquired Allen.

From a dollars standpoint though whatever needed to happen to bring PJ back needed to happen. Team would have made the money back with deeper playoff runs, and all the failed Tucker replacements ended up costly too.

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