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Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added

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Post#781 » by Daver » Sun May 14, 2023 2:30 pm

When horst was fired i said if bucks fire bud thats our new HC without hesitating set up perfectly ........
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Post#782 » by SirChurros » Sun May 14, 2023 2:32 pm

MVP2110 wrote:It's weird to me how many people assume we are talking to a coach we haven't been linked to at all. Like yea it's certainly possible we are talking to other coaches that haven't been named but also maybe we aren't. We know of some coaches they have talked too specifically

Why is that weird? I think you’re just used to us being a loose-lipped organization.
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Post#783 » by emunney » Sun May 14, 2023 2:32 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Monty is a great guy and class act. But he’s Bud light in the coaching department.


Even if he was a Founder's Stout, I don't think you could keep any of the players from 2021 if you hired Monty.
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Post#784 » by emunney » Sun May 14, 2023 2:36 pm

MVP2110 wrote:It's weird to me how many people assume we are talking to a coach we haven't been linked to at all. Like yea it's certainly possible we are talking to other coaches that haven't been named but also maybe we aren't. We know of some coaches they have talked too specifically


It just feels to me like Nurse has his eyes elsewhere. I'd be cool with him or Lue, and am not averse to assistants like most on this board seem to be. That's where most of the innovation comes from in this league.
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Post#785 » by machu46 » Sun May 14, 2023 2:43 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:If we actually hire Borrego or Brooks I'll be pissed. In the meantime it's just as PP said, good business and basketball practice to interview a slew of guys and pick their brains about the current and possible future makeup of our team.


I'll give whoever the hire is a chance but I'd definitely be skeptical about most/maybe all of the names that we've been officially linked to so far.

I think Borrego did a pretty decent job in Charlotte all things considered. Their offense during his time there was pretty beautiful to watch; if I remember right they led the league in assists or were close to it with he and LaMelo steering the ship. He's not the guy I'm hoping for, but I'd support hiring him more than Brooks, promoting Lee, or hiring Monty probably.

Brooks had a couple decent seasons in Washington as well (and obviously was successful in OKC but he had a bevy of talent there) but he's never really done it for me personally. Not really looking to promote Bud's assistant but that kind of move has definitely worked for teams in the past and we don't really have a track record to go off with Lee, so who knows there?

Kinda similar to Brooks, Monty obviously had a lot of success in Phoenix. It's easy to point to their mid-range heavy offense and think that's not the direction we want to go in, but it's also the personnel they had in place so it's sort of a chicken and egg situation. His complaints about officiating definitely rubbed me the wrong way and I don't really like the way Phoenix plays in general, but again, their playstyle definitely fit the personnel they had and that's generally a good thing.
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Post#786 » by Prez » Sun May 14, 2023 2:47 pm

Has anything been mentioned with Nurse and the Bucks at all? I don’t think so but maybe I missed something. The fact that we’ve heard nothing about him but he’s immediately mentioned as one of the Suns’ top candidates is kinda lame. Definitely seems like that isn’t happening.
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Post#787 » by MVP2110 » Sun May 14, 2023 2:47 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:It's weird to me how many people assume we are talking to a coach we haven't been linked to at all. Like yea it's certainly possible we are talking to other coaches that haven't been named but also maybe we aren't. We know of some coaches they have talked too specifically

Why is that weird? I think you’re just used to us being a loose-lipped organization.


I think it's certainly possible that we are talking to Nurse and/or other coaches that haven't been listed. But many on this board seem to feel like that is a certainty that we are and I don't understand how anyone can be certain we are talking to any specific coach that hasn't already been named without inside knowledge
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Post#788 » by machu46 » Sun May 14, 2023 2:48 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:It's weird to me how many people assume we are talking to a coach we haven't been linked to at all. Like yea it's certainly possible we are talking to other coaches that haven't been named but also maybe we aren't. We know of some coaches they have talked too specifically

Why is that weird? I think you’re just used to us being a loose-lipped organization.


Just in general in sports, I feel like we don't often see hires truly come out of nowhere (meaning no reported interest at any point and then all of a sudden they're hired). There's a chance that they're working their way up to him and interviewing some lesser candidates first but it's kind of an Occam's Razor thing right? Most plausible explanation is probably that we haven't heard us linked with Nurse at all because there's no link to report on at this time.

I wouldn't really understand it if there was never communication between us and Nurse but maybe he declined and we obviously didn't want to leak that. I don't know. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I would think with other high-profile jobs opening up, we'll have to show our cards soon if we haven't already been showing them.
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Post#789 » by Mtsportsfan » Sun May 14, 2023 2:51 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:Borrego is the classic agent getting his name out there guy.

You could be right about Nurse. Maybe for some reason we aren't interested in him. If that's true I'd be pissed. I'm fine with some of the other candidates but Nurse has to be at least be approached.

Very possible Nurse would like to team up with Kawhi again in LA. Or thinks a Durant/Booker pairing is alluring.


If we weren't interested in Nurse , then that is a travesty ! Horst job should be in jeopardy if it's not already !
Maybe Nurse isn't interested , but why would he not! I don't understand why he wouldn't and that's why I don't believe that we would not be interested. Now that the suns job is open its probably a preferred destination.

If that's the case I would look hard at Quinn from the Spoelstra coaching tree! Hopefully he can bring the same in game play and adjustments , no more random school yard crap !

Want a coach who can extend Giannis's career some by not have him run into a wall every possession !





Isnt part of that running into that wall part of the other teams disrespect of our 3 pt shooting every playoff we basically morph into the badgers shooting 3s.Wouldnt more consistent 3 pt shooting alleviate the wall


Very true ! We definitely shrunk in the playoffs with crappie 3pt shooting , and it would absolutely help Giannis if we could shoot better , but when we don't shoot well , we didn't do anything thing else . also I'd like to extend Giannis career , all this flopping is already taking a toll on him !
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Post#790 » by Badgerlander » Sun May 14, 2023 2:53 pm

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It just feels to me like Nurse has his eyes elsewhere. I'd be cool with him or Lue, and am not averse to assistants like most on this board seem to be. That's where most of the innovation comes from in this league.


Agreed or maybe he knows he is the best available and trying to push the bids higher. It will be interesting to see who flinches. I’d love to be the fly on the wall to hear the GMs pitch on how they are going to fix the roster issues on the top teams. Also agree on assistants but outside of Lee I don’t know that anyone is worthy which makes Redick intriguing. I bet he gets an offer from a team, curious to see if he takes it.
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Post#791 » by MickeyDavis » Sun May 14, 2023 2:57 pm

Personally I think between the Bucks, Suns and Clippers (if that opens up) the Bucks would be the most attractive team to coach (other than the weather). There are pros and cons to each.

George is 33 and missed 26 games plus the playoffs. He missed 51 games the year before and 26 the year before that. Kawhi turns 32 and his injury history is well documented.

KD turns 35 and since his Achilles injury 4 years ago hasn't had a healthy season. Paul will likely be shopped. Ayton too. They have no bench or picks.

Middleton is an injury concern but Giannis is still just 28. He's missed some games (some pure load management, some legit injury) but this past season he played 2 more games than our championship season.

And let's not forget this Bucks team without Middleton for the most part was the #1 overall seed.

So I think we are the best situation for any coach. We need the guy who can make the adjustments from regular season to post season.
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Post#792 » by Daver » Sun May 14, 2023 3:06 pm

Prez wrote:Has anything been mentioned with Nurse and the Bucks at all? I don’t think so but maybe I missed something. The fact that we’ve heard nothing about him but he’s immediately mentioned as one of the Suns’ top candidates is kinda lame. Definitely seems like that isn’t happening.




When bud was first fired nurses name was brought up alot on NBA tv and on sirius radio everyone to a man said nurse was the leading guy to get it.Take that for what its worth
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Post#793 » by Daver » Sun May 14, 2023 3:10 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:It's weird to me how many people assume we are talking to a coach we haven't been linked to at all. Like yea it's certainly possible we are talking to other coaches that haven't been named but also maybe we aren't. We know of some coaches they have talked too specifically

Why is that weird? I think you’re just used to us being a loose-lipped organization.


Just in general in sports, I feel like we don't often see hires truly come out of nowhere (meaning no reported interest at any point and then all of a sudden they're hired). There's a chance that they're working their way up to him and interviewing some lesser candidates first but it's kind of an Occam's Razor thing right? Most plausible explanation is probably that we haven't heard us linked with Nurse at all because there's no link to report on at this time.

I wouldn't really understand it if there was never communication between us and Nurse but maybe he declined and we obviously didn't want to leak that. I don't know. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I would think with other high-profile jobs opening up, we'll have to show our cards soon if we haven't already been showing them.




You would still think someone shams whitehorst etc with any inside info wpuld of mentioned that the bucks are interested in nurse or vis versa but theres been nada zilch mentioned on that again i think the bucks already talked to him
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Post#794 » by emunney » Sun May 14, 2023 3:13 pm

Kerr was calling games when the Ws hired him. He of course had the mystique of a guy who played for Phil and Pop. But his GM tenure was awful.

I wouldn't mind a gutsy hire. We've already incurred most of the risk by firing our championship coach.
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Post#795 » by Daver » Sun May 14, 2023 3:13 pm

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If we weren't interested in Nurse , then that is a travesty ! Horst job should be in jeopardy if it's not already !
Maybe Nurse isn't interested , but why would he not! I don't understand why he wouldn't and that's why I don't believe that we would not be interested. Now that the suns job is open its probably a preferred destination.

If that's the case I would look hard at Quinn from the Spoelstra coaching tree! Hopefully he can bring the same in game play and adjustments , no more random school yard crap !

Want a coach who can extend Giannis's career some by not have him run into a wall every possession !





Isnt part of that running into that wall part of the other teams disrespect of our 3 pt shooting every playoff we basically morph into the badgers shooting 3s.Wouldnt more consistent 3 pt shooting alleviate the wall


Very true ! We definitely shrunk in the playoffs with crappie 3pt shooting , and it would absolutely help Giannis if we could shoot better , but when we don't shoot well , we didn't do anything thing else . also I'd like to extend Giannis career , all this flopping is already taking a toll on him !



Yep that was all on bud for gis brutal lack of creativity on O from working doen low to running set plays to going midrange there was a plethora of dumb ass O sets that bud didnt care about either hit a 3 or giannis huuff n puff n blow that wall down
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Post#796 » by drew881 » Sun May 14, 2023 3:17 pm

I know Phoenix is tied to Lue, but I wonder if they look at Bud. If he wants to coach, doing it out of his hometown state would be ideal.
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Post#797 » by SirChurros » Sun May 14, 2023 3:24 pm

machu46 wrote:
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MVP2110 wrote:It's weird to me how many people assume we are talking to a coach we haven't been linked to at all. Like yea it's certainly possible we are talking to other coaches that haven't been named but also maybe we aren't. We know of some coaches they have talked too specifically

Why is that weird? I think you’re just used to us being a loose-lipped organization.


Just in general in sports, I feel like we don't often see hires truly come out of nowhere (meaning no reported interest at any point and then all of a sudden they're hired). There's a chance that they're working their way up to him and interviewing some lesser candidates first but it's kind of an Occam's Razor thing right? Most plausible explanation is probably that we haven't heard us linked with Nurse at all because there's no link to report on at this time.

I wouldn't really understand it if there was never communication between us and Nurse but maybe he declined and we obviously didn't want to leak that. I don't know. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I would think with other high-profile jobs opening up, we'll have to show our cards soon if we haven't already been showing them.


Fair, and I don't necessarily disagree, but has Nurse been linked to anyone other than the Suns? You'd think that any team with a vacancy would be reaching out to him (even though Phoenix and Milwaukee are the only viable landing spots right now if he wants a contender).
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Post#798 » by Matches Malone » Sun May 14, 2023 3:31 pm

I'm wondering what kind of wrench it throws into our plans if Philly gets eliminated tonight and they move on from Doc. Could be another team we're fighting over for a coach.
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Post#799 » by Daver » Sun May 14, 2023 3:34 pm

Monte is 27-19 in the playoffs i mean other than a chip thsts not a bad record anyone know his reputation is a xs and os guy
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Post#800 » by Daver » Sun May 14, 2023 3:35 pm

Matches Malone wrote:I'm wondering what kind of wrench it throws into our plans if Philly gets eliminated tonight and they move on from Doc. Could be another team we're fighting over for a coach.



Christ phillys in the ECFs ffs theres no way he would get fired amd i cant imagine he wont be

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