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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#41 » by Eyeamok » Mon May 15, 2023 3:59 am

Philly's Best wrote:Would guess unless Miami upsets Boston, Joel ends up in Miami with his buddy Himmy for Bam and Herro. Doc is gone, Tobias gets moves by the deadline. Harden is resigned. Don't want the Harden part but I don't think Morey has it in him to not try it his way imo


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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#42 » by TheBallsDeeper » Mon May 15, 2023 5:04 am

sortpar wrote:In my personal opinion, Embiid, is mentally immature and lacks leadership.

That's more of a fact than an opinion.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#43 » by GoSixersBro » Mon May 15, 2023 4:39 pm

Imagine thinking anything post April 6, 2016 could be labeled "The Process".

Hinkie did what he set out to do. Acquire a superstar through the draft.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#44 » by Bum Adebayo » Mon May 15, 2023 5:14 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:Imagine thinking anything post April 6, 2016 could be labeled "The Process".

Hinkie did what he set out to do. Acquire a superstar through the draft.


He only obtained a Regular Season superstar though, actually Butler was our only Playoffs superstar and Hinkie wasn't involved, this is the truth. Not saying there is not some value in being Regular Season king, but obviously Playoffs matter more.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#45 » by GoSixersBro » Mon May 15, 2023 6:06 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:Imagine thinking anything post April 6, 2016 could be labeled "The Process".

Hinkie did what he set out to do. Acquire a superstar through the draft.


He only obtained a Regular Season superstar though, actually Butler was our only Playoffs superstar and Hinkie wasn't involved, this is the truth. Not saying there is not some value in being Regular Season king, but obviously Playoffs matter more.


Nothing you said I disagree with.

People saying The Process failed because we didn't win a championship not only do not understand Sam's mission/strategy but are also too dense to realize what culminated from 2016-2023 was way more influenced by Silver, Colangelo, Brand and Morey than Sam.

It's so weird there's this faction of the fanbase that never want to give Sam credit for what he did accomplish in 3 short years, but then love to crucify him for moves made well after he was forced out.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#46 » by Mik317 » Mon May 15, 2023 6:16 pm

can we not relitigate the process for the 2000th time lol.

the idea was to get a building block and have the assets to build around said building block. I have questions if Biid can be the main scorer but he is def a real building block and we had assets to build around it.

This idea that the process was to just win everything and there was no risk involved is and always will be stupid as ****.

We had assets and they simply made the wrong choice every time almost lol; a lot of it is revisionist history but it is what it is. Doesn't mean the process was wrong tho....especially since the team that sent us home is legit full of high lottery picks.
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Post#47 » by FlyingArrow » Mon May 15, 2023 6:23 pm

Hinkie played the GM game perfectly. He didn't do a great job drafting, but he understood that the draft is always a gamble, and that top talent rarely comes from outside the top 10. So as many lottery picks as possible. The championship team almost always has a top-ten player in the league on the roster, so you need one to compete. The 2004 Pistons are a notable (and possibly the only) exception.

We got Embiid, and that makes the Process a success. Whether we eventually get a championship or not - that's a different question. For as much luck as the Sixers had in winning the lottery, they sure had bad luck with the actual picks (Fultz and Simmons outcomes).
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Post#48 » by Bum Adebayo » Mon May 15, 2023 6:34 pm

FlyingArrow wrote:Hinkie played the GM game perfectly. He didn't do a great job drafting, but he understood that the draft is always a gamble, and that top talent rarely comes from outside the top 10. So as many lottery picks as possible. The championship team almost always has a top-ten player in the league on the roster, so you need one to compete. The 2004 Pistons are a notable (and possibly the only) exception.

We got Embiid, and that makes the Process a success. Whether we eventually get a championship or not - that's a different question. For as much luck as the Sixers had in winning the lottery, they sure had bad luck with the actual picks (Fultz and Simmons outcomes).


That's not really bad luck, one needs to scout these players throughly. Simmons had very real concerns about his character pre draft, I remember this like it was yesterday, and Fultz wasn't even consensus best player in the draft, there were like 3-4 players that were in the mix, Tatum being one of them of course. I remember his pre draft workout with Sixers or something and how bad his shot looked.

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Does this look like a great shooter to you guys? and this was pre draft, no yips or anything, he doesn't look natural at all.
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Post#49 » by FlyingArrow » Mon May 15, 2023 6:54 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:Hinkie played the GM game perfectly. He didn't do a great job drafting, but he understood that the draft is always a gamble, and that top talent rarely comes from outside the top 10. So as many lottery picks as possible. The championship team almost always has a top-ten player in the league on the roster, so you need one to compete. The 2004 Pistons are a notable (and possibly the only) exception.

We got Embiid, and that makes the Process a success. Whether we eventually get a championship or not - that's a different question. For as much luck as the Sixers had in winning the lottery, they sure had bad luck with the actual picks (Fultz and Simmons outcomes).


That's not really bad luck, one needs to scout these players throughly. Simmons had very real concerns about his character pre draft, I remember this like it was yesterday, and Fultz wasn't even consensus best player in the draft, there were like 3-4 players that were in the mix, Tatum being one of them of course. I remember his pre draft workout with Sixers or something and how bad his shot looked.

Read on Twitter


Does this look like a great shooter to you guys? and this was pre draft, no yips or anything, he doesn't look natural at all.


It's still bad luck. That's great that if you called these guys as bad picks. If we had your list of picks, you'd have plenty of busts at the top of your list, too.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#50 » by TheBallsDeeper » Tue May 16, 2023 1:04 am

GoSixersBro wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:Imagine thinking anything post April 6, 2016 could be labeled "The Process".

Hinkie did what he set out to do. Acquire a superstar through the draft.


He only obtained a Regular Season superstar though, actually Butler was our only Playoffs superstar and Hinkie wasn't involved, this is the truth. Not saying there is not some value in being Regular Season king, but obviously Playoffs matter more.


Nothing you said I disagree with.

People saying The Process failed because we didn't win a championship not only do not understand Sam's mission/strategy but are also too dense to realize what culminated from 2016-2023 was way more influenced by Silver, Colangelo, Brand and Morey than Sam.

It's so weird there's this faction of the fanbase that never want to give Sam credit for what he did accomplish in 3 short years, but then love to crucify him for moves made well after he was forced out.

The person saying I'm too dense is obviously too stupid to read and comprehend my OP.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#51 » by TheBallsDeeper » Tue May 16, 2023 1:13 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:Hinkie played the GM game perfectly. He didn't do a great job drafting, but he understood that the draft is always a gamble, and that top talent rarely comes from outside the top 10. So as many lottery picks as possible. The championship team almost always has a top-ten player in the league on the roster, so you need one to compete. The 2004 Pistons are a notable (and possibly the only) exception.

We got Embiid, and that makes the Process a success. Whether we eventually get a championship or not - that's a different question. For as much luck as the Sixers had in winning the lottery, they sure had bad luck with the actual picks (Fultz and Simmons outcomes).


That's not really bad luck, one needs to scout these players throughly. Simmons had very real concerns about his character pre draft, I remember this like it was yesterday, and Fultz wasn't even consensus best player in the draft, there were like 3-4 players that were in the mix, Tatum being one of them of course. I remember his pre draft workout with Sixers or something and how bad his shot looked.

Read on Twitter


Does this look like a great shooter to you guys? and this was pre-draft, no yips or anything, he doesn't look natural at all.

He got on a lucky streak in college and the Sixers looked at that only. I remember looking up his high school stats pre-draft, and he was a poor shooter. The fact the Celtics took on look at him in their gym and offered to trade the first pick was a massive red flag to anyone with half a brain.
I also remember reading other guards' profiles around the same time, and I think it was Melton who shut him down in a college game and Fultz looked rattled.
Was always a terrible pick, not just in hindsight - Fultz now was his ceiling.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#52 » by GoSixersBro » Tue May 16, 2023 1:18 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
He only obtained a Regular Season superstar though, actually Butler was our only Playoffs superstar and Hinkie wasn't involved, this is the truth. Not saying there is not some value in being Regular Season king, but obviously Playoffs matter more.


Nothing you said I disagree with.

People saying The Process failed because we didn't win a championship not only do not understand Sam's mission/strategy but are also too dense to realize what culminated from 2016-2023 was way more influenced by Silver, Colangelo, Brand and Morey than Sam.

It's so weird there's this faction of the fanbase that never want to give Sam credit for what he did accomplish in 3 short years, but then love to crucify him for moves made well after he was forced out.

The person saying I'm too dense is obviously too stupid to read and comprehend my OP.


Oh I read it. You completely contradicted yourself then proceeded to click "Submit".

You're emotional. I get it. Everyone who created a thread yesterday is. Every little thing is gonna be alright.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#53 » by TheBallsDeeper » Tue May 16, 2023 1:25 am

GoSixersBro wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
Nothing you said I disagree with.

People saying The Process failed because we didn't win a championship not only do not understand Sam's mission/strategy but are also too dense to realize what culminated from 2016-2023 was way more influenced by Silver, Colangelo, Brand and Morey than Sam.

It's so weird there's this faction of the fanbase that never want to give Sam credit for what he did accomplish in 3 short years, but then love to crucify him for moves made well after he was forced out.

The person saying I'm too dense is obviously too stupid to read and comprehend my OP.


Oh I read it. You completely contradicted yourself then proceeded to click "Submit".

You're emotional. I get it. Everyone who created a thread yesterday is. Every little thing is gonna be alright.

**** off with your patronising ****. If you can't comprehend English that's on you, muppet.
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Re: If Sixers lose game 7 to Celtics - the process is over and has failed 

Post#54 » by GoSixersBro » Tue May 16, 2023 4:07 pm

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
GoSixersBro wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:The person saying I'm too dense is obviously too stupid to read and comprehend my OP.


Oh I read it. You completely contradicted yourself then proceeded to click "Submit".

You're emotional. I get it. Everyone who created a thread yesterday is. Every little thing is gonna be alright.

**** off with your patronising ****. If you can't comprehend English that's on you, muppet.


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