Bucks fire coach Bud. Can we hope for the same?

[esqtvd]

Lmao at all the Lue hate. I don't want to see him go, but I'm more than fine moving on from Frank and bringing in Bob Myers.

Agree, AZJeff. Firing the coach is cheap and easy. Look around the league. At least 3 of those coaches will have new jobs soon, taking each others' place in the NBA's musical chairs. Maybe 5. If fired, Ty Lue will be out of work for a week tops.

We should probably have a separate thread for the GM/FO, but what's the point...
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I did a stats workup on how badly the lack of a backup center killed us. Hartenstein's minutes were in the plus last year and this year the non-Zubac minutes were a heavy minus [before Plumlee]. When you go from + to -, the swing is doubled.

Also, Zubac had to play extra minutes, and he wore down as the year went on. Plus Reggie as the starting PG had no backup either and eventually had a complete meltdown.

[J-Wall was supposed to cover this, so Frank deserves less blame for that part. I am still astounded that J-Wall was the worst player on the Clippers, even most of the G-Leaguers. I'll eat a big shttburger on that prediction.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?PerMode=Per100Possessions&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612746&dir=A&sort=PLUS_MINUS]


The FO f/up wasn't even constructing a mismatched roster, but keeping a surplus of reserves at the 2 [Powell, Mann, Kennard and maybe even Boston] while being understaffed at the 1, 4 and 5. Personally, I think the Buck Stops with Ballmer, and my guess is that the FO didn't have a free hand to do what what was needed.

But you can't fire the owner, eh? In the least, Ballmer needed more than a yes-man as GM. Indeed, we must still wonder where Jerry West was in all this... You gotta KNOW that if Logo whispered ANYTHING in Steve's ear, it would have got done YESTERDAY.

[esqtvd]

Lmao at all the Lue hate. I don't want to see him go, but I'm more than fine moving on from Frank and bringing in Bob Myers.

Not even Alvin Gentry got this level of hate

Alvin Gentry lol. Good times.


2001-02 Los Angeles Clippers Roster
39-43

11 Earl Boykins PG 5-5 135 June 2, 1976 us 3 Eastern Michigan
42 Elton Brand PF 6-9 275 March 11, 1979 us 2 Duke
1 Keyon Dooling PG 6-3 196 May 8, 1980 us 1 Missouri
54 Obinna Ekezie PF 6-9 270 August 22, 1975 ng 2 Maryland
32 Tremaine Fowlkes SF 6-8 220 April 11, 1976 us R California, Fresno State
40 Harold Jamison PF 6-8 260 November 20, 1976 us 1 Clemson
50 Corey Maggette SG 6-6 218 November 12, 1979 us 2 Duke
5 Jeff McInnis PG 6-4 190 October 22, 1974 us 4 UNC
21 Darius Miles SF 6-9 210 October 9, 1981 us 1
7 Lamar Odom SF 6-10 220 November 6, 1979 us 2 Rhode Island
34 Michael Olowokandi C 7-0 269 April 3, 1975 ng 3 University of the Pacific
24 Doug Overton PG 6-3 190 August 3, 1969 us 9 La Salle
52 Eric Piatkowski SG 6-7 215 September 30, 1970 us 7 Nebraska
14 Eldridge Recasner PG 6-3 190 December 14, 1967 us 7 Washington
3 Quentin Richardson SG 6-6 223 April 13, 1980 us 1 DePaul
45 Sean Rooks C 6-10 250 September 9, 1969 us 9 Arizona

[TucsonClip]

Lmao at all the Lue hate.

Were you expecting people to be thrilled with four-guard lineups, Marcus Morris getting thirty minutes per game, and isoball straight out of 1992?

I expect many here to run the coach out of town no matter who it is.......

Lue isnt perfect, but he's a good coach, good in game, and doesn't lose his **** in public. I'm all for the Bob Myers era in the front office. If Ty wants out, I wouldn't hold it against him, but he's not easily replaceable.

[esqtvd]

Lmao at all the Lue hate.

Were you expecting people to be thrilled with four-guard lineups, Marcus Morris getting thirty minutes per game, and isoball straight out of 1992?

I expect many here to run the coach out of town no matter who it is.......

Lue isnt perfect, but he's a good coach, good in game, and doesn't lose his **** in public. I'm all for the Bob Myers era in the front office. If Ty wants out, I wouldn't hold it against him, but he's not easily replaceable.

If I'm Ty, I want out. I have my choice of 3 jobs in the morning. Maybe 5. I'm just so tired of Kawhi's shtt. I'm a championship coach. I don't have to put up with this.

I expect many here to run the coach out of town no matter who it is.......

You got that right. What a bore.

[esqtvd]

just like moi said

and people blame the coach? incredible

Not knowing whether oft-injured star forwards Kawhi Leonard and Paul George will be able to play from night to night has created a basketball crisis within the Clippers, a rival executive told Steve Bulpett of Heavy Sports.

And it may not be fixable anytime soon, the exec added.

“I’m not sure what they can do,” the executive told Bulpett. “They’re not going to get value for those guys (Leonard, George) in any sort of deals. They just miss too many games, and that’s ruined the culture. It’s ruined the culture of the Clippers.

“Not knowing from night to night if you’re going to have PG or Kawhi just killed them. They didn’t know who was playing on any given night. It’s a train wreck. They’ve got some really good character guys on their team, but the culture is bad.”

https://hoopswire.com/clippers-culture-described-as-train-wreck/

[KL2]

Doc fired. Pretends to be shocked.

[MartinToVaught]

Time for NBA teams to collectively stop hiring Glenn. There are great coaches all over the world who don't get a chance while he gets to blow 3-1 or 3-2 leads the exact same way every year.

[LamarWho]

Doc is still hailed as a great coach by the media, especially his buddies who work at ESPN. This con man will get another high profile head coaching gig soon.

[madmaxmedia]

Lmao at all the Lue hate. I don't want to see him go, but I'm more than fine moving on from Frank and bringing in Bob Myers.

Not even Alvin Gentry got this level of hate

Alvin Gentry lol. Good times.


2001-02 Los Angeles Clippers Roster
39-43

11 Earl Boykins PG 5-5 135 June 2, 1976 us 3 Eastern Michigan
42 Elton Brand PF 6-9 275 March 11, 1979 us 2 Duke
1 Keyon Dooling PG 6-3 196 May 8, 1980 us 1 Missouri
54 Obinna Ekezie PF 6-9 270 August 22, 1975 ng 2 Maryland
32 Tremaine Fowlkes SF 6-8 220 April 11, 1976 us R California, Fresno State
40 Harold Jamison PF 6-8 260 November 20, 1976 us 1 Clemson
50 Corey Maggette SG 6-6 218 November 12, 1979 us 2 Duke
5 Jeff McInnis PG 6-4 190 October 22, 1974 us 4 UNC
21 Darius Miles SF 6-9 210 October 9, 1981 us 1
7 Lamar Odom SF 6-10 220 November 6, 1979 us 2 Rhode Island
34 Michael Olowokandi C 7-0 269 April 3, 1975 ng 3 University of the Pacific
24 Doug Overton PG 6-3 190 August 3, 1969 us 9 La Salle
52 Eric Piatkowski SG 6-7 215 September 30, 1970 us 7 Nebraska
14 Eldridge Recasner PG 6-3 190 December 14, 1967 us 7 Washington
3 Quentin Richardson SG 6-6 223 April 13, 1980 us 1 DePaul
45 Sean Rooks C 6-10 250 September 9, 1969 us 9 Arizona

I thought Genry was a really good coach for the specific time and situation he was here, which was helping babysit and develop a bunch of kids and turn them into a competitive NBA team. He did that. I also think we needed someone else after a few years, but overall it worked out for both him and the team.

I think generally the success or failure of most coaching gigs is very situational. Most of the guys sitting on NBA benches aren't idiots, but they each have strengths and weaknesses and sometimes that aligns with the team they take on and sometimes it doesn't.

[donemilio21]

Doc is still hailed as a great coach by the media, especially his buddies who work at ESPN. This con man will get another high profile head coaching gig soon.

Doc and Lue both. Stephen A. didn't lose time to compliment Doc after he was fired. He says how great of a coach Lue is at every opportunity. These guys have a lobby.
Doc will talk himself to another great situation for sure with a 5 year deal paying like $10M a year, because he won a championship 15 years ago.

[donemilio21]

Lmao at all the Lue hate. I don't want to see him go, but I'm more than fine moving on from Frank and bringing in Bob Myers.

Not even Alvin Gentry got this level of hate

Alvin Gentry lol. Good times.


2001-02 Los Angeles Clippers Roster
39-43

11 Earl Boykins PG 5-5 135 June 2, 1976 us 3 Eastern Michigan
42 Elton Brand PF 6-9 275 March 11, 1979 us 2 Duke
1 Keyon Dooling PG 6-3 196 May 8, 1980 us 1 Missouri
54 Obinna Ekezie PF 6-9 270 August 22, 1975 ng 2 Maryland
32 Tremaine Fowlkes SF 6-8 220 April 11, 1976 us R California, Fresno State
40 Harold Jamison PF 6-8 260 November 20, 1976 us 1 Clemson
50 Corey Maggette SG 6-6 218 November 12, 1979 us 2 Duke
5 Jeff McInnis PG 6-4 190 October 22, 1974 us 4 UNC
21 Darius Miles SF 6-9 210 October 9, 1981 us 1
7 Lamar Odom SF 6-10 220 November 6, 1979 us 2 Rhode Island
34 Michael Olowokandi C 7-0 269 April 3, 1975 ng 3 University of the Pacific
24 Doug Overton PG 6-3 190 August 3, 1969 us 9 La Salle
52 Eric Piatkowski SG 6-7 215 September 30, 1970 us 7 Nebraska
14 Eldridge Recasner PG 6-3 190 December 14, 1967 us 7 Washington
3 Quentin Richardson SG 6-6 223 April 13, 1980 us 1 DePaul
45 Sean Rooks C 6-10 250 September 9, 1969 us 9 Arizona

I became a Clippers fan that year. In over two decades of being a fan, this team is the most pessimistic I feel about Clippers. Nothing to look forward to.

[esqtvd]

Not even Alvin Gentry got this level of hate

Alvin Gentry lol. Good times.


2001-02 Los Angeles Clippers Roster
39-43

11 Earl Boykins PG 5-5 135 June 2, 1976 us 3 Eastern Michigan
42 Elton Brand PF 6-9 275 March 11, 1979 us 2 Duke
1 Keyon Dooling PG 6-3 196 May 8, 1980 us 1 Missouri
54 Obinna Ekezie PF 6-9 270 August 22, 1975 ng 2 Maryland
32 Tremaine Fowlkes SF 6-8 220 April 11, 1976 us R California, Fresno State
40 Harold Jamison PF 6-8 260 November 20, 1976 us 1 Clemson
50 Corey Maggette SG 6-6 218 November 12, 1979 us 2 Duke
5 Jeff McInnis PG 6-4 190 October 22, 1974 us 4 UNC
21 Darius Miles SF 6-9 210 October 9, 1981 us 1
7 Lamar Odom SF 6-10 220 November 6, 1979 us 2 Rhode Island
34 Michael Olowokandi C 7-0 269 April 3, 1975 ng 3 University of the Pacific
24 Doug Overton PG 6-3 190 August 3, 1969 us 9 La Salle
52 Eric Piatkowski SG 6-7 215 September 30, 1970 us 7 Nebraska
14 Eldridge Recasner PG 6-3 190 December 14, 1967 us 7 Washington
3 Quentin Richardson SG 6-6 223 April 13, 1980 us 1 DePaul
45 Sean Rooks C 6-10 250 September 9, 1969 us 9 Arizona

I became a Clippers fan that year. In over two decades of being a fan, this team is the most pessimistic I feel about Clippers. Nothing to look forward to.

Nothing worse than a bad, old team. Except a bad, old team with no draft picks.

[esqtvd]

Bucks fire coach Bud. Can we hope for the same?


apparently not

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/271598/Clippers-Have-No-Intention-Of-Letting-Ty-Lue-Go





[via Zach Lowe]

[esqtvd]

ADD: Although the Clips have him signed for 2 more years, by most accounts Ty has the upper hand in negotiations. I don't quite know how it works. Like you can't really force a selfish player to change his game, you can't tell a disgruntled coach how to coach. Indeed, you can bench a player but what can you do to a coach?

It sure looks like Ty is making his move. Pay me. Give me more input in what goes on around here. Or release me from my contract and I'll be coaching Giannis or Kevin Durant by sundown.

The Los Angeles Clippers met with representatives of Tyronn Lue to discuss his future with the franchise this week, sources tell Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report.

Lue has been a target of the Milwaukee Bucks and Phoenix Suns.

Lue has two years remaining on his five-year, $35 million deal signed with the Clippers in 2020. The value of his current contract is similar to the one he signed with the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Haynes reports that Lue would want a brand new contract, presumably with an immediate raise, rather than an extension off his current number if he were to commit long-term to the Clippers.

ESPN's Zach Lowe reports the Clippers have no intention of letting Lue leave for another job.

[donemilio21]

ADD: Although the Clips have him signed for 2 more years, by most accounts Ty has the upper hand in negotiations. I don't quite know how it works. Like you can't really force a selfish player to change his game, you can't tell a disgruntled coach how to coach. Indeed, you can bench a player but what can you do to a coach?

It sure looks like Ty is making his move. Pay me. Give me more input in what goes on around here. Or release me from my contract and I'll be coaching Giannis or Kevin Durant by sundown.

The Los Angeles Clippers met with representatives of Tyronn Lue to discuss his future with the franchise this week, sources tell Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report.

Lue has been a target of the Milwaukee Bucks and Phoenix Suns.

Lue has two years remaining on his five-year, $35 million deal signed with the Clippers in 2020. The value of his current contract is similar to the one he signed with the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Haynes reports that Lue would want a brand new contract, presumably with an immediate raise, rather than an extension off his current number if he were to commit long-term to the Clippers.

ESPN's Zach Lowe reports the Clippers have no intention of letting Lue leave for another job.

He wants to stay with Clippers. Why wouldn't he? Bucks, Suns or Sixers jobs will come with championship expectations. He won't have any excuses for failure. Clippers situation is perfect for him. Kawhi is out. PG is guaranteed to get injured again at some point. His excuses for coaching mediocre is ready.

[LamarWho]

"In a recent article, Bleacher Report's Chris Haynes said the LA Clippers are unlikely to extend Ty Lue this offseason, which could allow him to hit free agency next summer. Haynes also added additional insight into the Phoenix Suns' interest in Lue before hiring Frank Vogel, saying the Clippers would have requested draft capital in exchange for Lue, but no official contact was made between the two sides on a potential move."

[Full Story]https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news/report-clippers-unlikely-to-extend-ty-lue-this-offseason

Something positive to start the offseason I suppose.

[Sofia]

Maybe we can throw a stupid amount of money at Stone Cold Mike Malone

[esqtvd]

Maybe we can throw a stupid amount of money at Stone Cold Mike Malone

this has a familiar ring to it

https://www.change.org/p/denver-nuggets-fire-mike-malone

Started
January 30, 2021
Petition to
Denver Nuggets


Why this petition matters

Started by Tyler Shorten

Mike Malone is an idiot. He makes no rotations and is playing this team into the ground while alienating his young guys. He's to this team what Mark Jackson was to GSW, good to get them back to contention, will never take them to the promised land. We're down by 14 with an injured Murray and he's still got the starters in. He's obsessed with Barton and won't get off his nuts. Any high school coach would be better than this imbucile.

D M
2 years ago

Lack of creativity. Constant poor judgement regards who he plays when

[Kelphus]

Why would we hope for Ty to be fired?

He is the one coach who got more out of Westbrook than anybody in his recent teams, particularly the losers down the hall.

He didn't injure PG13 and Kawhi...

He is respected around the league (I know, Doc was also.. whatever)

That's not the answer.