Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added

Post #1261 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu May 18, 2023 1:55 am

Post #1262 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu May 18, 2023 1:58 am

Ballmer will want picks for Lue. We have like zero to give. Maybe that will work to our advantage.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1263 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:00 am

RiotPunch wrote:
Prez wrote:Don’t get my hopes up with this Ty Lue stuff, he’s been my #1 guy through all this. he’s like the anti-Bud as a playoff coach lol.

That would salvage this mess but it feels like a longshot now. Lue seems to be leveraging the buzz for an even fatter extension.

Nah, I'm guessing he's just struggling to get out of his contract. Every coach in the League would absolutely love to coach Giannis. Also, coaching Kawhi has to be a terrible experience.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1264 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:06 am

ColeWorld23 wrote:
This would be a dream come true with Lue.

why?

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #1265 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:07 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Ballmer will want picks for Lue. We have like zero to give. Maybe that will work to our advantage.

prefer to save our picks for actual players

RedMosquito76 · Post #1266 » by **RedMosquito76** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:24 am

MickeyDavis wrote:
RedMosquito76 wrote:Over the years, I have enjoyed lurking on this board because you guys are great at bringing forward any snippet of news about my beloved Bucks. On that same note, when there's a decision looming and nothing is leaking, I've noticed the board tends to freak out a bit.

As for me, I can agree that the delay is a bit unsettling but I like to think that with nothing leaking there's no pressure from anyone other than fans for them to be in a hurry. Let the market develop, talk to the guys you're at all interested in, and then when you are confident you have your guy you make your hire. Nobody's hired anybody yet so no one is off the board and there's no need to rush. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but "trust the process"

40 posts in 11 years. When the mosquito talks you better listen.

If it helps, this is my 3rd or 4th handle cuz I kept forgetting my login credentials back in the day. I think I found this place around the time of the Ray Allen trade...though I could be misremembering that, lol

drone3 · Post #1267 » by **drone3** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:33 am

RedMosquito76 wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
RedMosquito76 wrote:Over the years, I have enjoyed lurking on this board because you guys are great at bringing forward any snippet of news about my beloved Bucks. On that same note, when there's a decision looming and nothing is leaking, I've noticed the board tends to freak out a bit.

As for me, I can agree that the delay is a bit unsettling but I like to think that with nothing leaking there's no pressure from anyone other than fans for them to be in a hurry. Let the market develop, talk to the guys you're at all interested in, and then when you are confident you have your guy you make your hire. Nobody's hired anybody yet so no one is off the board and there's no need to rush. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but "trust the process"

40 posts in 11 years. When the mosquito talks you better listen.

If it helps, this is my 3rd or 4th handle cuz I kept forgetting my login credentials back in the day. I think I found this place around the time of the Ray Allen trade...though I could be misremembering that, lol

Absorbing knowledge from grand master Mosquito.. Now we know true honesty.

Profound23 · Post #1268 » by **Profound23** » Thu May 18, 2023 2:54 am

RiotPunch wrote:Still can't believe Udoka took that Houston gig so fast. What the hell was he thinking?

I wonder if he was trying to get there before the landed Wemby and signed Harden.....now he might regret it.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1269 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Thu May 18, 2023 3:04 am

Profound23 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Still can't believe Udoka took that Houston gig so fast. What the hell was he thinking?

I wonder if he was trying to get there before the landed Wemby and signed Harden.....now he might regret it.

That was my thought. At the time, phx, mke, and philly all had COY guys and still were in it. There was a decent chance no job was available. By signing with Houston early he beat Nurse and other guys while having a 16% chance of coaching the best prospect since James. I roll that dice over say ending up with the Hornets.

soxperry · Post #1270 » by **soxperry** » Thu May 18, 2023 4:04 am

BroncoBuck wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Still can't believe Udoka took that Houston gig so fast. What the hell was he thinking?

Good strip clubs

and no state income tax.

i'm pretty ignorant of that whole Udoka situation so maybe this is easily disproven, but i wonder if his back channeling indicated that the contender teams were not willing to go with him because of the optics. i dont really know what he did except that it involved a woman. i can't see the Bucks signing a guy with optics issues at least until Haslem is in full control. again, not sure if he does have optics issues at this point but it's possible.

fan230 · Post #1271 » by **fan230** » Thu May 18, 2023 5:35 am

humanrefutation wrote:Vogel...eh. I don't think he's an upgrade on Bud.

I don’t think anyone they have interviewed or have announced intentions of interviewing, is better than Bud.

I almost feel repelled when I remember that Crowder complained about not playing enough (when he played really badly) and then soon after that Bud was fired.
I had never wanted us to recruit Crowder in the first place.

Now the bucks are embarrassingly almost desperately trying to recruit a coach whom they can justify the choice of by touting how he is “better” than Bud.

fan230 · Post #1272 » by **fan230** » Thu May 18, 2023 5:53 am

MVP2110 wrote:Bud was a great coach 95% of the time. He had one major flaw. And while I personally would have kept him I can understand moving on from him if you are going to hire someone you know will fix that specific area, in this case we are talking about in game playoff adjustments. The problem is the only guy on our list you can say has proven to be able to do that is Vogel. Maybe Quinn can be Spo 2.0 but he also might completely fail at the job considering most new head coaches are bad at the job, or atleast a downgrade from what Bud brought.

Firing Bud isn't specifically the problem, but the fact that the Bucks don't seem to have a plan on how to fix the playoff issues Bud had is very discouraging and if we aren't going to fix that then I'd rather have Bud who was great at all of the other stuff

I agree. Firing Bud with the plan of interviewing everyone under the sun, is just plain ridiculous.

Perhaps Horst was afraid of the possibility of his being fired, and he preempted that possibility by quickly firing the coach, Bud.

Dick Tate · Post #1273 » by **Dick Tate** » Thu May 18, 2023 6:22 am

Too much mental gymnastics. They didn’t do this to find someone better than Bud. They did this to find someone different.

Daver · Post #1274 » by **Daver** » Thu May 18, 2023 10:25 am

Dick Tate wrote:Too much mental gymnastics. They didn’t do this to find someone better than Bud. They did this to find someone different.

Absolutley agree i think the way things played out the upper management wanted needed a fresh voice and with some rumors about losing some of the players(agan i said rumors) knowing they couldnt alot to change the players this was their only choice.
Ive saud before sometimes a new voice new ideas brings new excitement and the tram performs as warranted

aboveAverage · Post #1275 » by **aboveAverage** » Thu May 18, 2023 10:50 am

I think Bud's firing had to come from the players. Horst doesn't have as much pull as Giannis. Given Giannis' comments about not being able to adjust the defense on Butler because of the coach, and Bobby's comments recently, I'd imagine that the players wanted him out. I don't think they appreciated the scheme that Bud made them play against Miami. Especially since it was this scheme that got them eliminated four out of the last five years against teams that they should've beaten or at least competed better against.

midranger · Post #1276 » by **midranger** » Thu May 18, 2023 11:07 am

aboveAverage wrote:I think Bud's firing had to come from the players. Horst doesn't have as much pull as Giannis. Given Giannis' comments about not being able to adjust the defense on Butler because of the coach, and Bobby's comments recently, I'd imagine that the players wanted him out. I don't think they appreciated the scheme that Bud made them play against Miami. Especially since it was this scheme that got them eliminated four out of the last five years against teams that they should've beaten or at least competed better against.

This is the only thing that makes sense to me. That he lost the players or they felt they needed a new voice to hear.

That gentleman sweep in the first round at home was just historically terrible. Especially with the way it played out with our guys going full on Keystone Cops two fourth quarters in a row. I feel like 90% of NBA coaches guide them home to victory in at least one of those games. Players weren’t responding to whatever buttons he was pressing and/or he was pressing the completely wrong buttons altogether. Either way, it was time to move on.

pilprin · Post #1277 » by **pilprin** » Thu May 18, 2023 11:17 am

The comment by Bobby Portis about Ham was telling…makes you wonder if they wanted the move last year to Ham.

Daver · Post #1278 » by **Daver** » Thu May 18, 2023 11:18 am

Horst never said he was looking for someone better thats all this board talks about.
I think its as simple as a new scheme a new voice someone who makes even the smallest adjustments when necessary and above all i feel he lost some of his players

midranger · Post #1279 » by **midranger** » Thu May 18, 2023 11:58 am

If you were at Fiserv for game six, you could feel the palpable “Thud” of the turd hitting the ground. As the MC scrambled to come up with some statement thanking the fans for being the best fans in the nba. Everyone in disbelief but resigned to the notion we had once again entered “same old Bucks” territory.

Was kind of a weird/surreal vibe walking out.

You knew something big had to change to have any semblance of ticket sales for next year.

MVP2110 · Post #1280 » by **MVP2110** » Thu May 18, 2023 12:06 pm

Dick Tate wrote:Too much mental gymnastics. They didn’t do this to find someone better than Bud. They did this to find someone different.

Except most of the coaches they have interviewed are downgrades from Bud. The only who you could classify as on the same Tier as Bud is Vogel. Everyone else is either a downgrade or an unproven assistant, and most assistants that go on to be head coaches fail at the job

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