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2023 Draft Discussion Part 5

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1881 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Jun 3, 2023 1:15 am

I really hope one of the top 11 drop to us. Coulibaly is a guy teams would reach for, and I’m hoping if that the case some team might reach for Rupert as well. I can also see someone taking Sensabaugh before 13 just because he’s probably a 20 ppg guy very early in his career.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1882 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Jun 3, 2023 1:15 am

C_Money wrote:Bilal Coulibaly averages 6.9 FGA per 36 minutes. That is extremely low which leads me to believe he has a hard time getting a shot off or he’s very unaggressive offensively. He also rarely gets to the FT line.


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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1883 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jun 3, 2023 1:22 am

Bilal is not some can’t miss prospect lol. It’s not a failure on Masai’s end if OKC picks him or Masai passes on him.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1884 » by C_Money » Sat Jun 3, 2023 1:28 am

I also think this whole draft is weaker than people say it is. I have a feeling a few guys will get picked in the 20’s-30’s that should have gone in the top 7.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1885 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Jun 3, 2023 1:35 am

C_Money wrote:I also think this whole draft is weaker than people say it is. I have a feeling a few guys will get picked in the 20’s-30’s that should have gone in the top 7.

Sasser, Jaquez, Jones, Podz, Jackson, TJD, Keyonte Johnson, Kobe Brown

Unless someone drops it almost seems better to trade back for 2 or more picks in the 20’s back
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#1886 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat Jun 3, 2023 1:41 am

Dereck Lively is a really damn good passer, nobody talks about his passing but he can make some bullet passes and processes the action and where to pass the ball pretty quickly for a 19 year old big man. He does not lack in the IQ department. Just looking at the 1.1 assists per 20 mins doesn't explain his ability. He didn't have the ball in his hands a lot at Duke. There's a lot more to him than his college production would have you believe.
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Post#1887 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jun 3, 2023 2:04 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Dereck Lively is a really damn good passer, nobody talks about his passing but he can make some bullet passes and processes the action and where to pass the ball pretty quickly for a 19 year old big man. He does not lack in the IQ department. Just looking at the 1.1 assists per 20 mins doesn't explain his ability. He didn't have the ball in his hands a lot at Duke. There's a lot more to him than his college production would have you believe.


If he can known down the 3 at a decent rate, he’s an instant lotto talent.
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Post#1888 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Jun 3, 2023 2:48 am

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Dereck Lively is a really damn good passer, nobody talks about his passing but he can make some bullet passes and processes the action and where to pass the ball pretty quickly for a 19 year old big man. He does not lack in the IQ department. Just looking at the 1.1 assists per 20 mins doesn't explain his ability. He didn't have the ball in his hands a lot at Duke. There's a lot more to him than his college production would have you believe.


If he can known down the 3 at a decent rate, he’s an instant lotto talent.

He should be gone by 10. If he’s not, he should be in play at our pick whether or not Poeltl is here.
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Post#1889 » by KL78192020 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:32 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:I really hope one of the top 11 drop to us. Coulibaly is a guy teams would reach for, and I’m hoping if that the case some team might reach for Rupert as well. I can also see someone taking Sensabaugh before 13 just because he’s probably a 20 ppg guy very early in his career.


What the consesus top 10 is usually never happens and there are almost always at least 3-4 players that turn out to be busts in that top 10. Then their are guys from 10-20 who teams pass over that end up better. The draft always has some randomness to it.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1890 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:33 am

C_Money wrote:I also think this whole draft is weaker than people say it is. I have a feeling a few guys will get picked in the 20’s-30’s that should have gone in the top 7.


Yep. I been said the same thing too.

If we can't get Wallace or Bufkin at #13, I'd be perfectly happy moving back to #21 and #22 from Brooklyn.

Podziemski, Sasser, Cissoko, Jones, Jackson-Davis and maybe even Miller will be available at those spots.

Even in the second round - Johnson, Bailey, Propser and Clark are all guys that I think could carve out a role in the league and by doing so, outperform their draft position.

I'd really hope the FO is giving it every consideration.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1891 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:42 am

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:I really hope one of the top 11 drop to us. Coulibaly is a guy teams would reach for, and I’m hoping if that the case some team might reach for Rupert as well. I can also see someone taking Sensabaugh before 13 just because he’s probably a 20 ppg guy very early in his career.


What the consesus top 10 is usually never happens and there are almost always at leat 3-4 players that turn out to be busts in that top 10. Then their are guys from 10-20 who teams pass over that end up better. The draft always has some randomness to it.

Definitely. We probably need some guys to rise if the guys we want will be available. I can see Bufkin going before we pick as well, and I wouldn’t be surprised if a Thompson twin or two fall, in addition to Wallace with the back issues.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1892 » by S.W.A.N » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:52 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
C_Money wrote:I also think this whole draft is weaker than people say it is. I have a feeling a few guys will get picked in the 20’s-30’s that should have gone in the top 7.

Sasser, Jaquez, Jones, Podz, Jackson, TJD, Keyonte Johnson, Kobe Brown

Unless someone drops it almost seems better to trade back for 2 or more picks in the 20’s back



Good list of guys that would be great if we ended up with a late first via a big trade.

I like the high bpm guys
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1893 » by C_Money » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:54 am

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C_Money wrote:I also think this whole draft is weaker than people say it is. I have a feeling a few guys will get picked in the 20’s-30’s that should have gone in the top 7.


Yep. I been said the same thing too.

If we can't get Wallace or Bufkin at #13, I'd be perfectly happy moving back to #21 and #22 from Brooklyn.

Podziemski, Sasser, Cissoko, Jones, Jackson-Davis and maybe even Miller will be available at those spots.

Even in the second round - Johnson, Bailey, Propser and Clark are all guys that I think could carve out a role in the league and by doing so, outperform their draft position.

I'd really hope the FO is giving it every consideration.


I’m not even sold on those two. Either take somebody way off the board at 13 or trade down like you said.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1894 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:59 am

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:
C_Money wrote:I also think this whole draft is weaker than people say it is. I have a feeling a few guys will get picked in the 20’s-30’s that should have gone in the top 7.

Sasser, Jaquez, Jones, Podz, Jackson, TJD, Keyonte Johnson, Kobe Brown

Unless someone drops it almost seems better to trade back for 2 or more picks in the 20’s back



Good list of guys that would be great if we ended up with a late first via a big trade.

I like the high bpm guys

In my opinion, the worst case scenario for guys like them are that they become role players and assets given the chance a big name becomes available.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1895 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat Jun 3, 2023 4:16 am

HumbleRen wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Dereck Lively is a really damn good passer, nobody talks about his passing but he can make some bullet passes and processes the action and where to pass the ball pretty quickly for a 19 year old big man. He does not lack in the IQ department. Just looking at the 1.1 assists per 20 mins doesn't explain his ability. He didn't have the ball in his hands a lot at Duke. There's a lot more to him than his college production would have you believe.


If he can known down the 3 at a decent rate, he’s an instant lotto talent.


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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1896 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Jun 3, 2023 5:20 am

C_Money wrote:I also think this whole draft is weaker than people say it is. I have a feeling a few guys will get picked in the 20’s-30’s that should have gone in the top 7.


There's a lot of NBA ready guys but you're right, talent wise this draft class is top heavy. Outside of the top 3, there's not a lot of star power, if any.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1897 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Jun 3, 2023 5:22 am

Who are the most NBA ready players in our range?

Hawkins? Jett?

If we hire Sergio, IMO that signals we're looking to win-now, which leads me to believe that we're much less likely to draft a raw, project player.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1898 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jun 3, 2023 5:38 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Who are the most NBA ready players in our range?

Hawkins? Jett?

If we hire Sergio, IMO that signals we're looking to win-now, which leads me to believe that we're much less likely to draft a raw, project player.


Bufkin, Hawkins and Kris Murray.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part 5 

Post#1899 » by Morse Code » Sat Jun 3, 2023 6:29 am

Psubs wrote:
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Sidy rocking the Lamelo's maybe a sign he goes to Charlotte ;)

Seriously, what is with these 18/19 year old kids looking like Jimmy Butler? Sidy and Scoot look physically ready to play in the NBA.


WTF! :o He grew like an inch (not 2 or 3 though) since last year and seemed like he gained weight with that growth. Geez, now looks like he's been getting ripped in the off-season. This is scary how quickly he's been able to do it. Could see him bullying Coulibaly around. :D Only reason to take Coulibaly over Cissoko is you believe that he will shoot 4-5% higher from 3 than Sidy.

Completely agree. I would 100% take Sidy over Bilal.
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Post#1900 » by Mark_83 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 6:44 am

Coach "Spins" has Lively going to Dallas at 10 and Coulibaly just getting past OKC (who takes Leonard Miller at 12) to us at 13.

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