AirP. wrote:Wouldn't mind a smaller salary dump/exchange with Utah to acquire Sexton as Miami's starting PG as a low priced 20ppg guy. He's on a contract near what Robinson makes but way more production and he is a worker.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:So KPs agent is Schwartz who’s got a great Heat relationship and now he’s about to opt in to his contract that would be easier to trade.
ICCs soggy nuggets and watChOut both reported a couple hours before FA started that Beal was headed to Miami, then the KD request came out and Miami apparently pivoted to KD which in return led Beal to signing the Supermax with Washington which ended up working out better for him money wise and now he’s trade eligible.
Just trying to connect the dots
greg4012 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:greg4012 wrote:Porzingis def scares me with his injury history, but damn that would be a sweet pairing next to Bam. I always thought he would opt out to seek a new deal this offseason (since he had his best and healthiest season). With that, I didn't think he was realistically in play for us. But, this news is encouraging.
Either way, I believe Washington entering a rebuild (which is the smart play for them) is very likely key for Miami being able to make moves to improve the roster without being absurdly price gouged (or outbid).
Miami trading Lowry, Herro, Duncan, and Oladipo plus 2-3 FRPs for Porzingis and Beal makes our squad extremely potent. It's also somewhat realistic considering (a) Porzingis is a 1-year rental before hitting free agency--he legitimately may be impossible to keep and (b) Beal has a no trade clause and is widely considered to be an albatross contract.
Vincent - Dragic - developmental prospect
Beal - Martin - vet min/developmental prospect
Butler - Martin - Highsmith
Bam - Jovic/Crowder
Porzingis - Vet min
Depth will be depleted, but that's the best and most balanced starting 5 in the league and realistically provides a reliable 8-man rotation
Love it!
Vincent/Pat Bev/Dragic
Beal/JRich/Cain
Butler/Martin/Highsmith
Bam/Crowder/Jovic
KP/KO/Orlando
That’d be a damn good offseason. My only complaint is I love having at least 1 3 point specialist on the team. I’d love to go after Alec Burks, he had a ridiculous shooting season. Maybe get him instead of Crowder and move Martin to the backup 4
Not having a true movement shooter on the team def would call for a pivot in many of Spo's preferred offensive sets.
greg4012 wrote:AirP. wrote:Wouldn't mind a smaller salary dump/exchange with Utah to acquire Sexton as Miami's starting PG as a low priced 20ppg guy. He's on a contract near what Robinson makes but way more production and he is a worker.
Sexton's got that dawg in him. Low volume 3-point shooter. But, if the price is right that would be an excellent add
AirP. wrote:
Beal... if Miami can find another starting PF, Beal is the VET offensive outside scorer they've been needing. He had a dip in the 21-22 season but for 4 of the last 5 seasons he's been the #1 option of a bad team and still putting up league average or better ORTGs and a TS% of around .580. Team him up with Spoelstra and I think he has much more efficient years with the Heat, you could run the offense through Beal and Bam for the first 3 quarters letting Butler play off the ball, making his cuts, somewhat saving his energy and near the end of the game Butler can go all out as the #1 with Beal able to space the floor with him... that is if Beal isn't already dominating the game, in that case you stick with Beal.
CrossOver wrote:
HeatFan_NC wrote:https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/amp/major_nba_trade_intel_revealed_about_potential_heat_blockbuster_move/s1_17149_38913963
CrossOver wrote:Personally would rather pass on Beal. The no trade clause might help in acquiring him for cheap but you are basically banking on him being the piece that fixes everything and he just hasn't given me the sense that he can be that for the HEAT.
greg4012 wrote:Porzingis def scares me with his injury history, but damn that would be a sweet pairing next to Bam. I always thought he would opt out to seek a new deal this offseason (since he had his best and healthiest season). With that, I didn't think he was realistically in play for us. But, this news is encouraging.
Either way, I believe Washington entering a rebuild (which is the smart play for them) is very likely key for Miami being able to make moves to improve the roster without being absurdly price gouged (or outbid).
Miami trading Lowry, Herro, Duncan, and Oladipo plus 2-3 FRPs for Porzingis and Beal makes our squad extremely potent. It's also somewhat realistic considering (a) Porzingis is a 1-year rental before hitting free agency--he legitimately may be impossible to keep and (b) Beal has a no trade clause and is widely considered to be an albatross contract.
Vincent - Dragic - developmental prospect
Beal - Martin - vet min/developmental prospect
Butler - Martin - Highsmith
Bam - Jovic/Crowder
Porzingis - Vet min
Depth will be depleted, but that's the best and most balanced starting 5 in the league and realistically provides a reliable 8-man rotation
contract wrote:greg4012 wrote:Porzingis def scares me with his injury history, but damn that would be a sweet pairing next to Bam. I always thought he would opt out to seek a new deal this offseason (since he had his best and healthiest season). With that, I didn't think he was realistically in play for us. But, this news is encouraging.
Either way, I believe Washington entering a rebuild (which is the smart play for them) is very likely key for Miami being able to make moves to improve the roster without being absurdly price gouged (or outbid).
Miami trading Lowry, Herro, Duncan, and Oladipo plus 2-3 FRPs for Porzingis and Beal makes our squad extremely potent. It's also somewhat realistic considering (a) Porzingis is a 1-year rental before hitting free agency--he legitimately may be impossible to keep and (b) Beal has a no trade clause and is widely considered to be an albatross contract.
Vincent - Dragic - developmental prospect
Beal - Martin - vet min/developmental prospect
Butler - Martin - Highsmith
Bam - Jovic/Crowder
Porzingis - Vet min
Depth will be depleted, but that's the best and most balanced starting 5 in the league and realistically provides a reliable 8-man rotation
That may be the worst PG duo since Mario Chalmers and Norris Cole ... and we didn't need them to do anything.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:CrossOver wrote:Personally would rather pass on Beal. The no trade clause might help in acquiring him for cheap but you are basically banking on him being the piece that fixes everything and he just hasn't given me the sense that he can be that for the HEAT.
If Schwartz is working with the intentions in helping his client get to Miami I doubt he's also trying to facilitate Beal coming in and taking his other client Herro's job in Miami. It's going to be Beal or Porzingis not both coming here. Just too much salary now and in the future for Arison to stomach. Considering the dynamics surrounding Porzingis and him wanting to be in Miami previously. I say we are the leaders in the club house for his services.
contract wrote:greg4012 wrote:Porzingis def scares me with his injury history, but damn that would be a sweet pairing next to Bam. I always thought he would opt out to seek a new deal this offseason (since he had his best and healthiest season). With that, I didn't think he was realistically in play for us. But, this news is encouraging.
Either way, I believe Washington entering a rebuild (which is the smart play for them) is very likely key for Miami being able to make moves to improve the roster without being absurdly price gouged (or outbid).
Miami trading Lowry, Herro, Duncan, and Oladipo plus 2-3 FRPs for Porzingis and Beal makes our squad extremely potent. It's also somewhat realistic considering (a) Porzingis is a 1-year rental before hitting free agency--he legitimately may be impossible to keep and (b) Beal has a no trade clause and is widely considered to be an albatross contract.
Vincent - Dragic - developmental prospect
Beal - Martin - vet min/developmental prospect
Butler - Martin - Highsmith
Bam - Jovic/Crowder
Porzingis - Vet min
Depth will be depleted, but that's the best and most balanced starting 5 in the league and realistically provides a reliable 8-man rotation
That may be the worst PG duo since Mario Chalmers and Norris Cole ... and we didn't need them to do anything.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:CrossOver wrote:Personally would rather pass on Beal. The no trade clause might help in acquiring him for cheap but you are basically banking on him being the piece that fixes everything and he just hasn't given me the sense that he can be that for the HEAT.
If Schwartz is working with the intentions in helping his client get to Miami I doubt he's also trying to facilitate Beal coming in and taking his other client Herro's job in Miami. It's going to be Beal or Porzingis not both coming here. Just too much salary now and in the future for Arison to stomach. Considering the dynamics surrounding Porzingis and him wanting to be in Miami previously. I say we are the leaders in the club house for his services.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I honestly think Beals just been coasting since they traded Westbrook and misses a lot more games than needed. What that says about his character idk but just the feel I get when looking at his numbers
