Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Looking like Bucks keep Mids, Brook, Jae

buckboy · Post #121 » by **buckboy** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:22 pm

H2tObes wrote:Lmao @ Beal being the worst contract in the league. There's actual bad players with crazy contracts, it's not a good contract but jesus christ we can talk without going to extremes

It's not the worst, but it's up there.

machu46 · Post #122 » by **machu46** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:28 pm

buckboy wrote:
machu46 wrote:
buckboy wrote:

I think that's what they'll end up getting.

Beal has the worst contract in the league. They should be thrilled to get off of it for free.

I’ll never agree with the idea that good players are the worst contract in the league when there are legitimately bad players on big contracts too even if they aren’t quite as big.

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I think he may be legitimately bad and making $50MM in a few years personally.

Really glad we didn't get him.

I mean, he simply isn't. He's a very good basketball player with an extremely expensive contract.

Couch Potato · Post #123 » by **Couch Potato** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:37 pm

JayMKE wrote:What I don't understand about running it back and signing everybody long term f the costs is how the hell do they expect to keep Giannis beyond this small window with these guys when there are no assets to build upon? Like Jrue, Khris, Lopez might have some value right now but what about 2 years from now? There are no picks to trade, we don't have any cap space, we're going to be severely limited by the second apron and for what? THEN WHAT? Is this a tacit admission of Giannis having a foot out the door already? We have to build for the future NOW!

Farm G-league players or undrafted players. Green probably promoted to active roster this season hopefully. Get something at #58 hopefully.

worthlessBucks · Post #124 » by **worthlessBucks** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:51 pm

One domino down, as expected not the Bucks (no current tradable assets for a fresh start rebuilding team).

Time for Horst to be creative and think outside the box.

Frank Nova · Post #125 » by **Frank Nova** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:02 pm

Is it worth going after CP3 now? Can we offer Washington anything insignificant that might interest them? I’ve been against adding CP3 but for 1 season and very cheap, it’s not the worst idea right?

Profound23 · Post #126 » by **Profound23** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:15 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Is it worth going after CP3 now? Can we offer Washington anything insignificant that might interest them? I’ve been against adding CP3 but for 1 season and very cheap, it’s not the worst idea right?

I wouldn't mind if it was possible, but I am confident he goes to Clippers or Lakers.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #127 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:16 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Is it worth going after CP3 now? Can we offer Washington anything insignificant that might interest them? I’ve been against adding CP3 but for 1 season and very cheap, it’s not the worst idea right?

If CP gets bought out then absolutely the Bucks should make a call.

Probably a bitter sweet day for CP, he gets his extra cash but I think Booker was the first star he's played with that he genuinely liked and got along with.

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buckboy · Post #128 » by **buckboy** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:17 pm

machu46 wrote:
buckboy wrote:
machu46 wrote:I’ll never agree with the idea that good players are the worst contract in the league when there are legitimately bad players on big contracts too even if they aren’t quite as big.

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I think he may be legitimately bad and making $50MM in a few years personally.

Really glad we didn't get him.

I mean, he simply isn't. He's a very good basketball player with an extremely expensive contract.

Didn't say he was. I said I feared he may be in a few years.

machu46 · Post #129 » by **machu46** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:19 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Is it worth going after CP3 now? Can we offer Washington anything insignificant that might interest them? I’ve been against adding CP3 but for 1 season and very cheap, it’s not the worst idea right?

Absolutely not. It would cost us either all of our bench players or one of our big 3. If they end up waiving him, then absolutely see if he'll take the minimum to sign with us, but there is no trade there that makes sense.

Mtsportsfan · Post #130 » by **Mtsportsfan** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:21 pm

What a conundrum ! As some one already said , damned if you , damned if you don't. Almost to the point of just running it back with some minor tweaks . we just don't have much to offer other teams , we have almost no first round picks ( got us a chip though ) no second round picks because of the five we gave up for a guy that hardly played for us! This is a problem and I don't trust Horst !
I see all the trade ideas and I love reading them , but the trades involving Bobby just don't make sense , he's on pretty friendly contract which we need , he gives us front court depth which we need !
For me I'm trying to move Grayson and Connaughton or anything else to get a PG . I understand that our big three didn't have what it takes in the last two playoffs , but I swear our bench hardly ever came up with big games when we needed them !

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #131 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:23 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:Is it worth going after CP3 now? Can we offer Washington anything insignificant that might interest them? I’ve been against adding CP3 but for 1 season and very cheap, it’s not the worst idea right?
If CP gets bought out then absolutely the Bucks should make a call.

Probably a bitter sweet day for CP, he gets his extra cash but I think Booker was the first star he's played with that he genuinely liked and got along with.

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It's weird with CP being so involved in cba negotiations. This is twice now he got himself in a spot where he squeezed out every penny but then got traded to **** teams due to that contract. Unfortunately this time he gets to have his cake and eat it too. He will get bought out and go to LA like he prefers instead of rotting in Washington.

blazza18 · Post #132 » by **blazza18** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:29 pm

StickeeFingaz wrote:Running it back with the same top 7/8 guys would be very uninspiring.

Yea, we can't keep falling back on being a championship calibre team when we keep tripping over ourselves every year.

crowhead76 · Post #133 » by **crowhead76** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:47 pm

H2tObes wrote:Lmao @ Beal being the worst contract in the league. There's actual bad players with crazy contracts, it's not a good contract but jesus christ we can talk without going to extremes

It is at least top 3 worst, only contract with a no trade clause that now transferred to the Suns. Beal is not a number 1 on championship team but his contract pays him like one and that no trade clause holds his team hostage. This trade showed just how bad it is.

vollbc74 · Post #134 » by **vollbc74** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 pm

Portis to DAL for #10

Allen/Pat to WAS for Paul

H2tObes · Post #135 » by **H2tObes** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:02 am

crowhead76 wrote:
H2tObes wrote:Lmao @ Beal being the worst contract in the league. There's actual bad players with crazy contracts, it's not a good contract but jesus christ we can talk without going to extremes

It is at least top 3 worst, only contract with a no trade clause that now transferred to the Suns. Beal is not a number 1 on championship team but his contract pays him like one and that no trade clause holds his team hostage. This trade showed just how bad it is.

Do you follow the NBA? Do you see how many bad players get signed to deals every summer? **** crazy talk man, Beal is good and yes he is overpaid but he is GOOD :crazy:

crowhead76 · Post #136 » by **crowhead76** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:05 am

H2tObes wrote:
crowhead76 wrote:
H2tObes wrote:Lmao @ Beal being the worst contract in the league. There's actual bad players with crazy contracts, it's not a good contract but jesus christ we can talk without going to extremes

It is at least top 3 worst, only contract with a no trade clause that now transferred to the Suns. Beal is not a number 1 on championship team but his contract pays him like one and that no trade clause holds his team hostage. This trade showed just how bad it is.

Do you follow the NBA? Do you see how many bad players get signed to deals every summer? **** crazy talk man, Beal is good and yes he is overpaid but he is GOOD

I do, apparently you do not understand how contracts work however. :crazy:

H2tObes · Post #137 » by **H2tObes** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:06 am

We were discussing trading all-star Jrue for Beal but people think it's one of the worst contracts in the league, actually insane

H2tObes · Post #138 » by **H2tObes** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:07 am

crowhead76 wrote:
H2tObes wrote:
crowhead76 wrote:
It is at least top 3 worst, only contract with a no trade clause that now transferred to the Suns. Beal is not a number 1 on championship team but his contract pays him like one and that no trade clause holds his team hostage. This trade showed just how bad it is.

Do you follow the NBA? Do you see how many bad players get signed to deals every summer? **** crazy talk man, Beal is good and yes he is overpaid but he is GOOD

I do, apparently you do not understand how contracts work however.

Tbh with that take i'm assuming you have 0 idea how contracts work

ShootingtheJ · Post #139 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:10 am

It's interesting to learn that the Bucks re-engaged with Beal Saturday. That tells us they must have something lined up to create that salary slot. Where we sending Jrue? Who else/what else were we landing in this deal?

msiris · Post #140 » by **msiris** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:12 am

blazza18 wrote:
StickeeFingaz wrote:Running it back with the same top 7/8 guys would be very uninspiring.

Yea, we can't keep falling back on being a championship calibre team when we keep tripping over ourselves every year.

They won a championship and tripped up like 4 out of 5 years. Some people think that running it back with a different coach will make a difference. I feel that you will still have the same low IQ players trying to carry out a smart game plan. You still have role players disappear in the playoffs. We are fine in the regular season so there is that.