Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread

[Jay81]

Wizard rebuild has started but I dont know how fast it will go building the Wizard team up through 2nd round draft picks .........

Gojng to require 3 straight top 3 picks and hitting a hr on Thursday

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Oh, it's so very sad. They've broken up that 35-47 team we loved.

For 2 yrs the Wizards have had the worst PG play in the NBA. With a top 15 PG it could have been the other way around .
Even now the Wizard lack a quality PG.

Well... I suppose he isn't likely to be with us when the dust settles, but don't tell me you think CP# is not "a quality PG."

He is the best PG in the history of the league.
Certainly since Bob Cousy.

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Rui Hachimura , gone ,Bradley Beal gone ....incoming Kendrick Nunn & (3 ) 2nd rd picks & 44 yr old Chris Paul , Landry Shamet.& (6) 2nd rd picks . The rebuild is moving forward with (9) 2nd rd picks , Nunn /CP3/Shamet probably all being moved (Look for CP3 adding to our 2nd rd haul of draft picks.)

Oh, it's so very sad. They've broken up that 35-47 team we loved.

Imagine being foolish enough to trade a tremendous player like Rui Hachimura! How could they...?

Imagine exchanging Bradley Beal, who has gotten better every single year of his career (just like Rui Hachimura, btw) for a broken down bum like Chris Paul who has lost... I don't know... dozens of minutes to injury over the last few years.

I tell you... things just keep getting worse!

If Paul is better than Beal...than why isnt Dallas, LA or GS asking us for him for a 1st

Let's keep this peaceful, ok?

There's really only one way to tell if a player is good, & how good, & that is by looking at what he does on the floor. The numbers he puts up.

Have you done that in this case? Have you looked at CP3's numbers? Either over his whole career, or in his peak years, or in the '22-23 season?

& then have you compared his numbers to Brad's?

If so, I'd like to hear from you whatever you saw in those two sets of numbers that would make you think Brad is as good as CP3. Or near as good.

It sure doesn't look that way to me. In fact... it doesn't look close.

[dckingsfan]

CP3 and Shamet in - Beal out.

What are the next moves?

[gambitx777]

CP3 and Shamet in - Beal out.

What are the next moves?

Hopefully CP3 and shammet out. Lakers and clipper have decent packages for CP3 and I just hold form if they don't wanna pay for a decent guard on a good deal. I hate the if he's bought out narrative, **** off.

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[joshuacf]

CP3 and Shamet in - Beal out.

What are the next moves?

Ideally, we'd move CP3 ASAP. I don't want to start the season with him and risk him falling off the wagon completely and tanking his value.

After that, not much to be done really. Take whatever deals may be available for KP or Kuz. Fill out the roster with the three draftees, whatever young talent we can get for CP3, and an older veteran or two.

Tank. Play the young guys 35 minutes a game. Try to get Monte and Delon's value up, and maybe trade them at the deadline to a contender for a bad contract.

Next year's draft is dreadful, also. Hopefully, someone will separate themselves but right now this is looking like the weakest draft in recent memory. So we've got that to look forward to.

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Wait 6 months and trade CP3 and Shamet for Ayton.

[Jay81]

Oh, it's so very sad. They've broken up that 35-47 team we loved.

Imagine being foolish enough to trade a tremendous player like Rui Hachimura! How could they...?

Imagine exchanging Bradley Beal, who has gotten better every single year of his career (just like Rui Hachimura, btw) for a broken down bum like Chris Paul who has lost... I don't know... dozens of minutes to injury over the last few years.

I tell you... things just keep getting worse!

If Paul is better than Beal...than why isnt Dallas, LA or GS asking us for him for a 1st

Let's keep this peaceful, ok?

There's really only one way to tell if a player is good, & how good, & that is by looking at what he does on the floor. The numbers he puts up.

Have you done that in this case? Have you looked at CP3's numbers? Either over his whole career, or in his peak years, or in the '22-23 season?

& then have you compared his numbers to Brad's?

If so, I'd like to hear from you whatever you saw in those two sets of numbers that would make you think Brad is as good as CP3. Or near as good.

It sure doesn't look that way to me. In fact... it doesn't look close.

Paul is a hall of fame. One of the best of all time but he is not better than beal right now. I don't care what the numbers say. He also had Durant and booker to give the ball too. Brad had kuz and deni lol

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[FAH1223]

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[queridiculo]

Good riddance.

Only a disciple of the Grunfeld school of being a NBA GM is Kyle Kuzma a franchise cornerstone.

Sheppard's obsession with Kuzma was one of many indicators of how big of a mistake Leonsis made in keeping Ernest Jr. around.

I like Kuzma, he's an entertaining interview and he's outlandish confidence in making shots has made for some entertaining moments, but he's not a winning basketball player as a featured option on a team with plans to go anywhere.

Vert likely yet another asset pissed into the wind, let's see of this new head trust can get something back in return.

[nate33]

We lost Kuzma as an asset the day after the Trade Deadline. Once he entered free agency, he was no longer an asset. And at his asking price, he is not a S&T asset because there are too many under-the-cap teams who will be willing to sign him outright.

[gambitx777]

We lost Kuzma as an asset the day after the Trade Deadline. Once he entered free agency, he was no longer an asset. And at his asking price, he is not a S&T asset because there are too many under-the-cap teams who will be willing to sign him outright.

Well idk there might be an over the cap team that we might be able to get a second out of if they ask us to help them out.

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[gambitx777]

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[The Consiglieri]

Good riddance.

Only a disciple of the Grunfeld school of being a NBA GM is Kyle Kuzma a franchise cornerstone.

Sheppard's obsession with Kuzma was one of many indicators of how big of a mistake Leonsis made in keeping Ernest Jr. around.

I like Kuzma, he's an entertaining interview and he's outlandish confidence in making shots has made for some entertaining moments, but he's not a winning basketball player as a featured option on a team with plans to go anywhere.

Vert likely yet another asset pissed into the wind, let's see of this new head trust can get something back in return.

That's why all of this is a case of owner malpractice. If you as an owner can't can a GM until after he fails to trade Kuzma at the deadline and is within a month or two of adding him as yet another albatross contract to the franchise YOU and only you are to blame. Shepard should have been ---- canned for failing to trade Beal for years, the fact that he was encouraged on that front AND then failed to turn Kuzma into anything of value?

It's just mind boggling how Ted is presiding over two different franchises in steep and total decline for years and has done literally ---- all to arrest the declines w/major rebuild trades. The Caps will hit the side of a cliff Beal style sometime in the next 18 months when they finally realize, no, having Ovy in a Caps jersey the past several years to get the goals record was not worth eradicating 80% of his trade value. I called that w/the Caps 3 years ago, and the same with Beal. Both teams are being destroyed by an owner that doesn't understand that if you aren't contending or building to contend, you need to be tearing down. It's him, its always been him. It's not a coincidence that he's been in denial w/both of these franchises for nearly half a decade.

[Kanyewest]

Oh, it's so very sad. They've broken up that 35-47 team we loved.

For 2 yrs the Wizards have had the worst PG play in the NBA. With a top 15 PG it could have been the other way around .
Even now the Wizard lack a quality PG.

Well... I suppose he isn't likely to be with us when the dust settles, but don't tell me you think CP# is not "a quality PG."

He is the best PG in the history of the league.
Certainly since Bob Cousy.

Bettter than Magic or Curry?

[Kanyewest]

CP3 was 0-2 against the Wizards last year. They were dealing with a few injuries although Beal didn't play in one of the games either.

[joshuacf]

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This has to be spin to try and drive up their values, right?

[Rafael122]

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This has to be spin to try and drive up their values, right?

The absolute worse case scenario is that Paul plays here and gets flipped at the deadline.

[NatP4]

Kuzma opted out. Great news, but another massive failure by Tommy. We easily could’ve gotten a couple of 1sts for him at the deadline.

Between the Beal extension, Isaiah Todd pick+multi year deal, and not trading Kuzma, Tommy was probably the worst GM in the entire league over the last couple years.

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