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Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#921 » by Ackshun » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:43 pm

720 wrote:Still believe the Pels are not trading Zion or Ingram. This Paul George stuff is smokescreen to raise the 3rd picks value even more (plus he’s old and always injured). Siakam is still the best path forward for the Blazers if they actually wanna contend with Dame.


I think it’s plausible that Lillard would prefer to play with PG.

Regardless of who we think is better, these “stars” wanna play together. PG is an 8x All Star and 6x All NBA player.

Do they win more games with PG vs Pascal..probably not but people are stupid. If Dame is being consulted and PG is an option, I don’t see them going with PS.

Also fit wise, Lillard/PG/Grant/Nurkic is a better fit IMO
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#922 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:44 pm

Clippers are not trading PG for the 3rd pick considering the roster they current have assembled. They'd have to blow it up if so.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#923 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:45 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
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billy_hoyle wrote:If Scoot goes 2, I think the 3rd pick drops in value.

OG + Siakam for Shaedon + 3 + Simons

Pick Miller.
Hope Wallace falls to 13

A foursome of Barnes, Miller, Sharpe and Wallace looks very well balanced and complementary IMO.

Still have GTJ, Precious and Koloko. Add Simons.

Keep Jak. You might be good quickly. Alot of high end talent there.



I get the feeling this organization would want nothing to do with Miller given his recent past. What if he were ever charged, you might not get him over the border. The risk there might be slim but you can’t ignore it, not to mention it’s stupid and questionable character-wise.

So any trade for 3 would be contingent on Scoot being available at the time.


i mean Toronto would probably surprise everyone and take Hendricks at #3 :lol:


Nah, that would be Anthony Black ;)
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#924 » by Los_29 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:50 pm

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Wrong, number do lie, Pascal was the first option and stat padding while Bam was the second to Butler and sometimes even the 3rd option on offence. I doubt that there are any teams in the NBA and that's including the Raptors organization that would take Pascal over Bam. I cant believe that this is even a debate :banghead:


well i doubt Bam would be even remotely effective as a 1st option. he's pretty one dimensional on offense.


He may not be as good offensively as Pascal but he is not far off as some people here think. He scored 20 points a game and he was not the first option on offence, and defensively he is miles ahead of lazy Pascal.


What did Pascal do as a 2nd option to Kawhi? Bam is nowhere near as good as Pascal is offensively. Not even close. Bam averaged almost as many turnovers as assists and is no threat to score outside of 15 feet from the basket. Bam also plays with Butler and a team full of shooters.

Pascal carries so much of the offensive load, it’s not surprising that his defense would slip. But without that kind of load, he’s a great defensive player which we saw in our championship run.

Bam has NEVER made an all-NBA team. Pascal has done it twice. That should tell you how each player is valued around the league.

If all things are equal, Pascal is better and frankly it’s not much of a debate.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#925 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:51 pm

mtcan wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/272021/Clippers-Gauging-Trade-Value-Of-Paul-George-With-Blazers-Rockets-Possible-Destinations

Getting dimmer and dimmer for the possibility of us acquiring the #3 or #4 pick.

Like I said earlier...my mind is set on selecting #13 and then packing up and going home. Our front office almost never deals on draft night. I believe the Vasquez for Norm/OG trade is the only draft night trade Masai has ever pulled off.


Isn't Pascal eligible to be extended sometime in July? I guess it's possible he is extended and then a trade happens after draft selections?

You could say he won't because he has one more chance at all-nba but considering the changes to all-nba next season his chances are even lower than they were this year. Plus always the looming threat of injury etc. he may want to secure the bag now. 40m+ is still nothing to scoff at.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#926 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:01 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Clippers are not trading PG for the 3rd pick considering the roster they current have assembled. They'd have to blow it up if so.


This is so obvious, I don't understand how people think the clippers would want a pick. The blazers have no win-now assets to trade, so these PG and Bam rumours make no sense.

If any team has win-now assets that a team would want, it's us.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#927 » by HumbleRen » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:02 pm

Trade isn’t happening.

Neither Houston or Portland are doing anything with their pick.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#928 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:06 pm

HumbleRen wrote:Trade isn’t happening.

Neither Houston or Portland are doing anything with their pick.

Portland don’t want scoot, that pick going somewhere or lillard is going somewhere 100%
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#929 » by JJ From Deep » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:22 pm

HumbleRen wrote:Trade isn’t happening.

Neither Houston or Portland are doing anything with their pick.

It's impossible for a trade not to happen. Either the pick goes, or Dame does. Portland has stated multiple times that they are not trading Dame, which means their only choice is to trade the pick.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#930 » by _MidNight_ » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:22 pm

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Clippers are not trading PG for the 3rd pick considering the roster they current have assembled. They'd have to blow it up if so.


This is so obvious, I don't understand how people think the clippers would want a pick. The blazers have no win-now assets to trade, so these PG and Bam rumours make no sense.

If any team has win-now assets that a team would want, it's us.


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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#931 » by alpngso » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:24 pm

JJ From Deep wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Trade isn’t happening.

Neither Houston or Portland are doing anything with their pick.

It's impossible for a trade not to happen. Either the pick goes, or Dame does. Portland has stated multiple times that they are not trading Dame, which means their only choice is to trade the pick.


Portland do not want to trade dame. They probably want Dame to stay with the young kids and grow together.

But Portland is forcing Dame to ask for a trade by picking Scoot. Optics matter for the team. They don't want to be the villain. Dame trade will happen after the draft.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#932 » by HumbleRen » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:25 pm

alpngso wrote:
JJ From Deep wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Trade isn’t happening.

Neither Houston or Portland are doing anything with their pick.

It's impossible for a trade not to happen. Either the pick goes, or Dame does. Portland has stated multiple times that they are not trading Dame, which means their only choice is to trade the pick.


Portland do not want to trade dame. They probably want Dame to stay with the young kids and grow older together.

But Portland is forcing Dame to ask for a trade by picking Scoot. Optics matter for the team. They don't want to be the villain. Dame trade will happen after the draft.


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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#933 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:25 pm

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#934 » by Scizzup » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:28 pm

Ackshun wrote:
720 wrote:Still believe the Pels are not trading Zion or Ingram. This Paul George stuff is smokescreen to raise the 3rd picks value even more (plus he’s old and always injured). Siakam is still the best path forward for the Blazers if they actually wanna contend with Dame.


I think it’s plausible that Lillard would prefer to play with PG.

Regardless of who we think is better, these “stars” wanna play together. PG is an 8x All Star and 6x All NBA player.

Do they win more games with PG vs Pascal..probably not but people are stupid. If Dame is being consulted and PG is an option, I don’t see them going with PS.

Also fit wise, Lillard/PG/Grant/Nurkic is a better fit IMO


well current PG is still better than Pascal, his issue is injuries. PG is one of the best volume 3 point shooters in the league 38% on 8 3's last 5 years. He has spacing gravity that Pascal doesn't have while being a better defender.

with that said PDX should not trade #3 for aging PG because even with that the rest of the roster still ain't good enough. Unless Dame just started his peak years.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#935 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:34 pm

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I seriously hope Masai isn't delusional enough to actually be expecting both #3 and Sharpe out of a Siakam deal.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#936 » by Scizzup » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:36 pm

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Blazers should keep the pick especially if it is Scoot. Unless it's for a Zion (who is already good and future MVP potential).


I don't see how PG/BI or Pascal takes that roster past a 2nd round (they would even need bracket luck to get the 2nd round imo). They need to upgrade center spot at the very least.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#937 » by DG88 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:38 pm

Hold on so Portland can't trade the 3rd pick until after they make their selection correct? Since they traded their 2024 pick.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#938 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:39 pm

DG88 wrote:Hold on so Portland can't trade the 3rd pick until after they make their selection correct? Since they traded their 2024 pick.

Correct

once that clock starts its going to be mayhem lol
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#939 » by Potential » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:39 pm

The moment Portland drafts someone and doesn't trade him away is when Dame will request a trade
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#940 » by vulture » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:40 pm

Blazers are begging for Dame to ask out so they can continue rebuilding.
The man does not want to cooperate.

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