Portland #3 trade rumors part 2
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pascal for dejuante would be a pretty big downgrade.
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Let's be real here, if they're seriously considering extending Fred, they're not trading Siakam.
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djsunyc wrote:pascal for dejuante would be a pretty big downgrade.
Yeah. I really like Murray but no way am I giving up our best player/trade asset for him.
It was only 3 years ago that Pascal shot 36% from 3. If we actually got him some help (shooting, depth, play making), I wonder what could become of us.
That said, I’m fine if we pivot younger and swap him for a stud on a 4 year rookie scale contract, with a a little more flexibility salary wise if we let Fred walk.
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Ackshun wrote:djsunyc wrote:pascal for dejuante would be a pretty big downgrade.
Yeah. I really like Murray but no way am I giving up our best player/trade asset for him.
It was only 3 years ago that Pascal shot 36% from 3. If we actually got him some help (shooting, depth, play making), I wonder what could become of us.
That said, I’m fine if we pivot younger and swap him for a stud on a 4 year rookie scale contract, with a a little more flexibility salary wise if we let Fred walk.
It is borderline impossible to trade a 37M player for a rookie on a 4-year deal. That team would need to take on a huge cap hit
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YogurtProducer wrote:Ackshun wrote:djsunyc wrote:pascal for dejuante would be a pretty big downgrade.
Yeah. I really like Murray but no way am I giving up our best player/trade asset for him.
It was only 3 years ago that Pascal shot 36% from 3. If we actually got him some help (shooting, depth, play making), I wonder what could become of us.
That said, I’m fine if we pivot younger and swap him for a stud on a 4 year rookie scale contract, with a a little more flexibility salary wise if we let Fred walk.
It is borderline impossible to trade a 37M player for a rookie on a 4-year deal. That team would need to take on a huge cap hit
Ok since you chimed in, I guess I need to expand. Lord
I’m fine if we make a trade, matching salary while bringing in a young high potential prospect on a rookie scale contract.
Although it doesn’t give us immediate cap flexibility, it will give us more cap flexibility, potentially, in the near term.
That better for you ?
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Ackshun wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Ackshun wrote:
Yeah. I really like Murray but no way am I giving up our best player/trade asset for him.
It was only 3 years ago that Pascal shot 36% from 3. If we actually got him some help (shooting, depth, play making), I wonder what could become of us.
That said, I’m fine if we pivot younger and swap him for a stud on a 4 year rookie scale contract, with a a little more flexibility salary wise if we let Fred walk.
It is borderline impossible to trade a 37M player for a rookie on a 4-year deal. That team would need to take on a huge cap hit
Ok since you chimed in, I guess I need to expand. Lord
I’m fine if we make a trade, matching salary while bringing in a young high potential prospect on a rookie scale contract.
Although it doesn’t give us immediate cap flexibility, it will give us more cap flexibility, potentially, in the near term.
That better for you ?
I’m just saying it’s borderline impossible. Anyone with a rookie worth having is picking high and won’t want Siakam, and anyone who wants Siakam doesn’t have players worth trading for.
Not sure what with the hostility.
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YogurtProducer wrote:Ackshun wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:It is borderline impossible to trade a 37M player for a rookie on a 4-year deal. That team would need to take on a huge cap hit
Ok since you chimed in, I guess I need to expand. Lord
I’m fine if we make a trade, matching salary while bringing in a young high potential prospect on a rookie scale contract.
Although it doesn’t give us immediate cap flexibility, it will give us more cap flexibility, potentially, in the near term.
That better for you ?
I’m just saying it’s borderline impossible. Anyone with a rookie worth having is picking high and won’t want Siakam, and anyone who wants Siakam doesn’t have players worth trading for.
Not sure what with the hostility.
Sorry. I have my moments.
My bad. That Tyus Jones thing must have triggered me
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YogurtProducer wrote:On a 34-win team and on efficiency worse than FVVs![]()
If you hate FVV, you’re gonna DESPISE Murray.
Yeah I'm not that interested in Murray. He's gonna want to be paid. I'd be more interested in this years pick, OO, Hunter and Griffin for example.
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This was dead the day after the lottery.
Portland and everyone else would value #3 over Siakam. Masai thinks Siakam is worth more. So there is no deal that can be made.
JRoy and me been lock step from the start.
Portland and everyone else would value #3 over Siakam. Masai thinks Siakam is worth more. So there is no deal that can be made.
JRoy and me been lock step from the start.
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biblast wrote:This thread should be closed. Most reports suggest that we have a better chance to trade Pascal to Atlanta. The Blazers trade is apparently dead.
Another thread discussing the same things will simply pop in this threads place. One more day and it shall be closed.

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The Duke wrote:This was dead the day after the lottery.
Portland and everyone else would value #3 over Siakam. Masai thinks Siakam is worth more. So there is no deal that can be made.
JRoy and me been lock step from the start.
Pretty strong chance that tomorrow Portland makes a trade that crushes Jroy soul. They value keeping Dame happy more than they do logic...
Some could argue Masai has same issue.
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^^ I doubt that Portland trades the #3. We shall see one more day.
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Blazers and Raptors choosing to do nothing and keep on their current aimless tracks would be very appropriate in the end.

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Brinbe wrote:Blazers and Raptors choosing to do nothing and keep on their current aimless tracks would be very appropriate in the end.
I mean, it sounds like the reason that deal isn’t going to get done is because Pascal is not committing to re-signing with Portland.
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Masai probably flips Garrison Trent Jr. to the Lakers for Beasley + 17
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ForeverTFC wrote:Brinbe wrote:Blazers and Raptors choosing to do nothing and keep on their current aimless tracks would be very appropriate in the end.
I mean, it sounds like the reason that deal isn’t going to get done is because Pascal is not committing to re-signing with Portland.
Or blazers don’t think Siakam is worth trading the 3rd pick in the draft.
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duppyy wrote:ForeverTFC wrote:Brinbe wrote:Blazers and Raptors choosing to do nothing and keep on their current aimless tracks would be very appropriate in the end.
I mean, it sounds like the reason that deal isn’t going to get done is because Pascal is not committing to re-signing with Portland.
Or blazers don’t think Siakam is worth trading the 3rd pick in the draft.
Sounds like a delusional team, they prefer 33yr old 50-game/yr Paul George over Pascal. Uncle might be running that organization.
