#36 - Andre Jackson Jr

[mke_design]

Seems like a super athletic Kendall Marshall

I’m happy I wasn’t the first person to have this thought cross their mind today. KMarsh would have been a much more fun ride had he stayed healthy.

[Fotis St]

The days of four shooters and Giannis in the half court might get replaced, somewhat, by more PnR’s and baseline cuts. We’ve seen the four shooter formula fail year after year in the playoffs, even in ‘21. I’m excited to see what the new plan is.

Giannis has never played with 4 shooters ... NEVER ... He has played with some gloryfied role players and was gifted a Ring by basketball Gods for his work ethic and his high character. Giannis won the Ring with a team shooting 28 3p% at post season ... a miracle that is somehow replaced thinking we were a superteam.

Having said that.... indeed a change of offensive and defensive schemes is much needed. 5 blue boxes and random predictable basketball was figured out and exploited enough to lose 2 years of Giannis prime

[RogerMurdock]

I haven't watched clips of him to see what his shot looks like because the image I have in my brain from all the "jacked-up" talk here is probably more fun than the reality.

[tedbrogen]

I’m actually really high on this guy after everything I’ve read and seen. Good handle, good defender, good (smart) passer, plus size and athleticism. Obviously the shot needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up but we saw it with Lonzo Ball, it can be done (sometimes). Even if he never becomes a great shooter guys he like an impact player overall and a hell of a transition partner for Giannis and (hopefully) Marjon. They’re basically doing with the Packers have done the last few years and getting guys with unteachable athleticism and physical traits and trying to develop the things they don’t do well.

I think what we all have to get used to is that our offensive strategy is going to change a lot going forward. This is likely going to be a heavy transition team and they’ve drafted and signed 2-ways accordingly. The days of four shooters and Giannis in the half court might get replaced, somewhat, by more PnR’s and baseline cuts. We’ve seen the four shooter formula fail year after year in the playoffs, even in ‘21. I’m excited to see what the new plan is.

Yeah the thing with four shooters standing around while Giannis drives is that it works percentage wise in the regular season (especially when you also try to steer the other team into long twos on the other end).
But in the playoffs you can die by small sample size shooting issues when other teams wall off Giannis, close out harder on shooters who are already getting cold just standing and watching Giannis, and other teams have time to game plan to carve up the drop D to get layups or open corner threes.

So yeah, I’ll welcome a more varied offense and defense even if it means only 50 wins instead of close to 60, because I think it will make them a tougher matchup in the playoffs.

[AussieBuck]

Let's just not play half court. 5 seconds or less. Jrue, MarJon, Jackson, Khris and Giannis. Khris can play the old big man role where he rumbles up behind everyone and catches for straight on threes trailing. Nothing but fast breaks.

[mke_design]

I haven't watched clips of him to see what his shot looks like because the image I have in my brain from all the "jacked-up" talk here is probably more fun than the reality.

Just think Shawn Marion

[mke_design]

I feel crazy but I think he could start?


Okay maybe not, but I think he could really have a big role in our 2nd units

[machu46]

Adding basic stats to help you choose who you like too... Anthro players measures from official DRAFT Combine
(https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2023)

1. #40 Maxwell Lewis G/F (20) 6'6.25 w/o shoes, wingspan 7'0 , 207.2 lbs
G=31, MP=31.4 , Points=17.1 , RB=5.7 , AS=2.8 , FG% 46.8 , 3P% 34.8 (1.5/3.4) , FT% 78.7 , PER=18.7 , WS=2.4

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2. #42 Tristan Vukcevic F/C (20) 6'11.25 w/o shoes, wingspan 7'2.5 , 223.4 lbs
G=22, MP=14.8 , Points=8.09 , RB=3.18 , AS=1.05 , FG% 58.0 , 3P% 40.0 (0.82/2.5) , FT% 81.1 , PER=21.53 , WS=1.86
(Liga ABA)

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3. #44 Sidy Cissoko G/F(19) 6'5.5 w/o shoes, wingspan 6'9.75 , 223.8 lbs
G=28, MP=29.3 , Points=12.8 , RB=2.8 , AS=3.5 , FG% 45.7 , 3P% 30.4 (1.1/3.6) , FT% 64.5 , PER=- , WS=0.1
(G-League)

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4. #48 Jordan Miller G (23) 6'4.5 w/o shoes, wingspan 6'11.75 , 191 lbs
G=37, MP=35 , Points=15.3 , RB=6.2 , AS=2.7 , FG% 54.5 , 3P% 35.2 (0.9/2.5) , FT% 78.4 , PER=23 , WS=6

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5. #50 Keyontae Johnson G (24) 6'4. w/o shoes, wingspan 7'0 , 238.6 lbs
G=36, MP=34.1 , Points=17.4 , RB=6.8 , AS=2.1 , FG% 51.6 , 3P% 40.5 (1.3/3.2) , FT% 71.5 , PER=18.8 , WS=4.5

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6. #54 Jalen Slawson G (23) 6'6.5. w/o shoes, wingspan 6'11.75 , 221.6 lbs
G=36, MP=30.7, Points=15.6 , RB=7.1 , AS=3.2 , FG% 55.6 , 3P% 39.4 (1.1/2.9) , FT% 77.5 , PER=26.8 , WS=6.1

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7. #55 Isaiah Wong G (22) 6'2.5. w/o shoes, wingspan 6'6.75 , 178.4 lbs
G=37, MP=33.4, Points=16.2 , RB=4.3 , AS=3.2 , FG% 44.5 , 3P% 38.4 (1.6/4.3) , FT% 84.5 , PER=21.3 , WS=5.1

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Still Editing ... I will fill this and make up my mind later

Horst's (Griffin?) pick #36
Andre Jackson Jr G/F (21) 6'5.5. w/o shoes, wingspan 6'9.75 , 198.4 lbs
G=36, MP=29.1, Points=6.7 , RB=6.2 , AS=4.7 , FG% 43.2 , 3P% 28.1 (0.7/2.5) , FT% 64.6 , PER=15.0 , WS=4.0

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Can someone convince me who is better ?
3. #44 Sidy Cissoko or #36 Andre Jackson ...
There are too many similarities, but I think Cissoko is more NBA READY 25lbs more muscle and I think the Raptors once more got a better player with a worse pick.

Cissoko put up similar numbers on G-LEAGUE , he is 2 years younger with more muscle mass. I don't get it... need help

I’m okay with the Jackson pick. Think he was just barely in my top 30. I do think Sissoko is a better prospect though. I had Sissoko ahead of Bilal Coulibaly.


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[KidA24]

I know he's a bit bigger, but how different is AJJ from DDV?

[emunney]

I know he's a bit bigger, but how different is AJJ from DDV?

Defensively he'll remind you of DDV sometimes in how he anticipates the action. Offensively, I always thought DDV was an outstanding decision-maker on the secondary break. He has that in common with Jackson, but Jackson is also very dangerous pushing the ball. Donte never shot how we thought he should but he's still a much much better shooter than Jackson. Both smart, well coached players, Donte with better shooting and Andre with physical tools from the trampoline dimension.

[KidA24]

I know he's a bit bigger, but how different is AJJ from DDV?

Defensively he'll remind you of DDV sometimes in how he anticipates the action. Offensively, I always thought DDV was an outstanding decision-maker on the secondary break. He has that in common with Jackson, but Jackson is also very dangerous pushing the ball. Donte never shot how we thought he should but he's still a much much better shooter than Jackson. Both smart, well coached players, Donte with better shooting and Andre with physical tools from the trampoline dimension.

I mean, DDV had a 42" vertical?

[Baddy Chuck]

I know he's a bit bigger, but how different is AJJ from DDV?

Defensively he'll remind you of DDV sometimes in how he anticipates the action. Offensively, I always thought DDV was an outstanding decision-maker on the secondary break. He has that in common with Jackson, but Jackson is also very dangerous pushing the ball. Donte never shot how we thought he should but he's still a much much better shooter than Jackson. Both smart, well coached players, Donte with better shooting and Andre with physical tools from the trampoline dimension.

I mean, DDV had a 42" vertical?

When you know guys like Grayson Allen have 40 inch verts you gotta know it's not always the same.

[emunney]

I know he's a bit bigger, but how different is AJJ from DDV?

Defensively he'll remind you of DDV sometimes in how he anticipates the action. Offensively, I always thought DDV was an outstanding decision-maker on the secondary break. He has that in common with Jackson, but Jackson is also very dangerous pushing the ball. Donte never shot how we thought he should but he's still a much much better shooter than Jackson. Both smart, well coached players, Donte with better shooting and Andre with physical tools from the trampoline dimension.

I mean, DDV had a 42" vertical?

What else ya got?

[soxperry]

I know he's a bit bigger, but how different is AJJ from DDV?

Defensively he'll remind you of DDV sometimes in how he anticipates the action. Offensively, I always thought DDV was an outstanding decision-maker on the secondary break. He has that in common with Jackson, but Jackson is also very dangerous pushing the ball. Donte never shot how we thought he should but he's still a much much better shooter than Jackson. Both smart, well coached players, Donte with better shooting and Andre with physical tools from the trampoline dimension.

I mean, DDV had a 42" vertical?

there seems to be only one way these players are similar and that is the off ball defensive intuition/winning plays. i'm sure Donte has him on that one, since that's what he is best at, but i'll take Jackson in every other category except shooting.

[Fotis St]

"I consider 90% of bbIQ is related to FT%"

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[CharityStripe34]

A bigger more athletic Josh Hart? Big fan of the 'fro, though. He looks like a beast in transition.

[Fotis St]

Horst, it is at least "naive" to think shooting like Vuksevic is "teachable". Don't want to use inappropriate words. It is teachable to 6-15 year olds, but to 20-21 year old men? That is a joke

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[jimmybones]

The ability of teams to completely play off him at a comedic level due to lack of outside shot has to be somewhat mitigated when a guy is a good passer, high IQ decision maker/creator, elite athlete and finisher at the rim.

I don’t think it’s crazy at all to see a useful player with that make up even with the absence of a perimeter shot.

[drone3]

The ability of teams to completely play off him at a comedic level due to lack of outside shot has to be somewhat mitigated when a guy is a good passer, high IQ decision maker/creator, elite athlete and finisher at the rim.

I don’t think it’s crazy at all to see a useful player with that make up even with the absence of a perimeter shot.

It's much harder to make a good pass when the D saggs off. Can't see him running the half court O.

He will still be great in transition.

[TroyD92]

Feel like he's just got to make wide open shots. He seems like a bit of a gamer too.