Breaking: Obi toppin traded to indiana

[SelbyCobra]

I'm not even an Obi stan... but it's kinda like... why even draft him in the lottery?

Nothing made much sense about drafting Obi Toppin at the time, and it had nothing to do with how good he was as a player. He was a National Player of the year guy leading a small team to a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. But he also didn't fit the roster at all.

Everything starts to make a ton of sense when you consider Leon Rose had just made a career change, was trying his hand at drafting for an NBA team for the first time, and his son was a newly minted agent with his first client - Obi Toppin.

THAT aspect of this whole situation is nauseating; it's not really about Obi as a player to me - bust or not. Leon went into the big pool with water wings on - He was 100% playing checkers and not chess with the 8th overall pick in a deep draft. Just thoroughly unprepared and blinded by nepotism.

[3toheadmelo]

My issue is more with the haul. Obi was was worth more than 2 2nd rounders. I’d say 1st round but outside of the. Lottery.

its likely the best we couldve gotten for him. i doubt anyone was really interested in him after seeing how unplayable he was against the heat. he looked like he didnt belong lol

You think so? I mean he’s definitely not going to be a super star, probably not a star, but I definitely think he’s a solid role-player/contributor given time, and sadly in today’s NBA getting that out of a lottery pick outside the top 2-3 is acceptable. I still think we undersold but who knows, maybe you’re right.

i think i remember reading we were trying to get at least a 1st round pick for him. since last year. but i dont think anyone valued him like that

[3toheadmelo]

Hayes was gone

Haliburton was the highest guy on my board. That was the guy I wanted in our spot

Deeeez Knicks wrote: I liked Haliburton a lot but I did like Hayes a little better...so not sure i would claim to be his biggest supporter. Wingo was pretty big on him and some others like you.

But hard to say since i also didnt have Edwards or Deni crazy high either.

My wish list was basically 3 guys...then went back and forth with the other options..Obi was out of my top 10.
1. LaMelo
2. Hayes
3. Haliburton

You ruined this sht. No one believes you when you quote people anymore. You edit tf outta them so much.

Classic case of boy cried wolf. You done fcked up.

to be fair i only edit yours and shams

but heres link
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=2058600&p=89294154&hilit=hayes#p89294154

[rajajackal]

My issue is more with the haul. Obi was was worth more than 2 2nd rounders. I’d say 1st round but outside of the. Lottery.

its likely the best we couldve gotten for him. i doubt anyone was really interested in him after seeing how unplayable he was against the heat. he looked like he didnt belong lol

You think so? I mean he’s definitely not going to be a super star, probably not a star, but I definitely think he’s a solid role-player/contributor given time, and sadly in today’s NBA getting that out of a lottery pick outside the top 2-3 is acceptable. I still think we undersold but who knows, maybe you’re right.

my goal would be to have a star guard, a star wing, and a 2 way center. obi would be a great fit for that + he's a hometown kid. i hate that our 2nd best player is a ball dominant pf. i'll root for him as long as he wears the uniform just like i did this year but in offseason mode i gotta be honest that i don't like the outlook of a team committed to randle

[Guano]

I'm not even an Obi stan... but it's kinda like... why even draft him in the lottery?

Nothing made much sense about drafting Obi Toppin at the time, and it had nothing to do with how good he was as a player. He was a National Player of the year guy leading a small team to a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. But he also didn't fit the roster at all.

Everything starts to make a ton of sense when you consider Leon Rose had just made a career change, was trying his hand at drafting for an NBA team for the first time, and his son was a newly minted agent with his first client - Obi Toppin.

THAT aspect of this whole situation is nauseating; it's not really about Obi as a player to me - bust or not. Leon went into the big pool with water wings on - He was 100% playing checkers and not chess with the 8th overall pick in a deep draft. Just thoroughly unprepared and blinded by nepotism.

Our pg was Elf at the time too.

We had no one to help create offense for obi. Just a completely dumb draft choice.

[3toheadmelo]

i was also high on hali. i remember saying he had SGA upside. and i tried telling sham he wasnt a frank clone lol

[cgmw]

I'm not even an Obi stan... but it's kinda like... why even draft him in the lottery?

Nothing made much sense about drafting Obi Toppin at the time, and it had nothing to do with how good he was as a player. He was a National Player of the year guy leading a small team to a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. But he also didn't fit the roster at all.

Everything starts to make a ton of sense when you consider Leon Rose had just made a career change, was trying his hand at drafting for an NBA team for the first time, and his son was a newly minted agent with his first client - Obi Toppin.

THAT aspect of this whole situation is nauseating; it's not really about Obi as a player to me - bust or not. Leon went into the big pool with water wings on - He was 100% playing checkers and not chess with the 8th overall pick in a deep draft. Just thoroughly unprepared and blinded by nepotism.

Not to beat a dead horse, but Leon’s boss is Mr. Nepotism. If anyone understands why Sammy needs a Lambo, it’s Jim Dolan.

Didn’t hurt that Obi was a dunk champion old enough to play right away. Classic Knick pick.

Haliburton never stood a chance and neither did anyone with hopes of MSG trading away a 20/10 veteran in Randle.

[Isiahthomass]

its likely the best we couldve gotten for him. i doubt anyone was really interested in him after seeing how unplayable he was against the heat. he looked like he didnt belong lol

You think so? I mean he’s definitely not going to be a super star, probably not a star, but I definitely think he’s a solid role-player/contributor given time, and sadly in today’s NBA getting that out of a lottery pick outside the top 2-3 is acceptable. I still think we undersold but who knows, maybe you’re right.

my goal would be to have a star guard, a star wing, and a 2 way center. obi would be a great fit for that + he's a hometown kid. i hate that our 2nd best player is a ball dominant pf. i'll root for him as long as he wears the uniform just like i did this year but in offseason mode i gotta be honest that i don't like the outlook of a team committed to randle

I have no issues with Randle outside of the fact he’s a head case. When he’s focused he’s a great player. My issues stem more from the fact that the Knicks as an organization treat first round picks like old ladies treat shoes.

[rajajackal]

You think so? I mean he’s definitely not going to be a super star, probably not a star, but I definitely think he’s a solid role-player/contributor given time, and sadly in today’s NBA getting that out of a lottery pick outside the top 2-3 is acceptable. I still think we undersold but who knows, maybe you’re right.

my goal would be to have a star guard, a star wing, and a 2 way center. obi would be a great fit for that + he's a hometown kid. i hate that our 2nd best player is a ball dominant pf. i'll root for him as long as he wears the uniform just like i did this year but in offseason mode i gotta be honest that i don't like the outlook of a team committed to randle

I have no issues with Randle outside of the fact he’s a head case. When he’s focused he’s a great player. My issues stem more from the fact that the Knicks as an organization treat first round picks like old ladies treat shoes.

randle is a choker so whatever he's capable of in a vacuum is heavily tarnished by that imo

[Deeeez Knicks]

you wanted us to draft killian hayes. i didnt forget mfer

Hayes was gone

Haliburton was the highest guy on my board. That was the guy I wanted in our spot

Deeeez Knicks wrote: I liked Haliburton a lot but I did like Hayes a little better...so not sure i would claim to be his biggest supporter. Wingo was pretty big on him and some others like you.

But hard to say since i also didnt have Edwards or Deni crazy high either.

My wish list was basically 3 guys...then went back and forth with the other options..Obi was out of my top 10.
1. LaMelo
2. Hayes
3. Haliburton

It’s exactly what I said. Lamelo and Hayes were gone so I woulda picked Haliburton.

I’ll take the L on Hayes. But you are running victory laps about Obi when you were hyping him up like crazy and talking about benching Randle for him

As much as I like Randle, this guy fits better with RJ and Mitch. Just make Randle the 6th man or something. But man his athletcism is just.. He would have MSG going crazy. If he falls to the Knicks I would def take him.

Watch on YouTube

[HarthorneWingo]

So we have a slot open for a backup PF. Preferably a 6’8” dude who can 3&D at both the 3 and 4 positions?

Tori Craig?

This is what I want. Give me a Kurt Thomas pf who isn't mentally weak and plays hard. Boxes out, spaces the floor, and makes the opposing team hurt after the game.

I don't need a goofy running pf who can't defend.

But is that who you want? Who else is there? What about DFS?

[god shammgod]

they really got to turn off the search function again. much easier to talk recklessly without it.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

they really got to turn off the search function again. must easier to talk recklessly without it.

I'm just thankful you can't really @ people, I mean you can fake quote them, but that's too much work.

[Isiahthomass]

my goal would be to have a star guard, a star wing, and a 2 way center. obi would be a great fit for that + he's a hometown kid. i hate that our 2nd best player is a ball dominant pf. i'll root for him as long as he wears the uniform just like i did this year but in offseason mode i gotta be honest that i don't like the outlook of a team committed to randle

I have no issues with Randle outside of the fact he’s a head case. When he’s focused he’s a great player. My issues stem more from the fact that the Knicks as an organization treat first round picks like old ladies treat shoes.

randle is a choker so whatever he's capable of in a vacuum is heavily tarnished by that imo

Randle has not been good in the playoffs but he did contribute to the regular season success of the team. He needs a sports shrink badly.

[3toheadmelo]

Hayes was gone

Haliburton was the highest guy on my board. That was the guy I wanted in our spot

Deeeez Knicks wrote: I liked Haliburton a lot but I did like Hayes a little better...so not sure i would claim to be his biggest supporter. Wingo was pretty big on him and some others like you.

But hard to say since i also didnt have Edwards or Deni crazy high either.

My wish list was basically 3 guys...then went back and forth with the other options..Obi was out of my top 10.
1. LaMelo
2. Hayes
3. Haliburton

It’s exactly what I said. Lamelo and Hayes were gone so I woulda picked Haliburton.

I’ll take the L on Hayes. But you are running victory laps about Obi when you were hyping him up like crazy and talking about benching Randle for him

As much as I like Randle, this guy fits better with RJ and Mitch. Just make Randle the 6th man or something. But man his athletcism is just.. He would have MSG going crazy. If he falls to the Knicks I would def take him.

Watch on YouTube

you wanted to draft hayes over hali and edwards though. and i remember you were high on poku and okoro

i never denied i liked obi coming out of the draft. but once i saw him play as a rookie i knew he was bad goods. i said to ship him away after like 1 month of seeing him play

[rajajackal]

I have no issues with Randle outside of the fact he’s a head case. When he’s focused he’s a great player. My issues stem more from the fact that the Knicks as an organization treat first round picks like old ladies treat shoes.

randle is a choker so whatever he's capable of in a vacuum is heavily tarnished by that imo

Randle has not been good in the playoffs but he did contribute to the regular season success of the team. He needs a sports shrink badly.

his one fluke game winner against miami came after he mishandled the ball twice at the end of a game. even when he was "clutch" he was choking. i respect randle's abilities and i rooted for him hard all year. just calling a spade a spade

[Deeeez Knicks]

It’s exactly what I said. Lamelo and Hayes were gone so I woulda picked Haliburton.

I’ll take the L on Hayes. But you are running victory laps about Obi when you were hyping him up like crazy and talking about benching Randle for him

As much as I like Randle, this guy fits better with RJ and Mitch. Just make Randle the 6th man or something. But man his athletcism is just.. He would have MSG going crazy. If he falls to the Knicks I would def take him.

Watch on YouTube

you wanted to draft hayes over hali and edwards though. and i remember you were high on poku and okoro

i never denied i liked obi coming out of the draft. but once i saw him play as a rookie i knew he was bad goods. i said to ship him away after like 1 month of seeing him play

I was never crazy about Okoro. That was shams guy.

Poku was a mystery. I Wouldn’t have minded him with a later pick or 2nd pick to swing for the fences.

I would have picked LaMelo if we had a top 3 pick so didn’t really mention Edwards. I was also low on your guy Wiseman, and was higher on Maxey.…some misses, some hits. It was a crazy draft.

[thebuzzardman]

When Trevor Keels breaks out two years from now, it will erase some of the sting for Obi fans

The only break out Keels will get in two years is from acne...

No inserting Grimes jokes in here!

[thebuzzardman]

Even if you don't like Obi the misuse of draft picks and asset valuation is horrendous.

They're going to put a bow on all this and trade IQ as well.

Hopefully, just so you are vaguely irritated!

[thebuzzardman]

Did the Knicks pivot off the Obi trade with a better trade yet?

Lolz