Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade

[Raps Next GM]

To Portland: D Garland
To Miami: D Lillard
To Cleveland: S Sharpe, T Herro, D Robinson, (2) MIA 1sts, (2) MIA Swaps

Only Miami would do this. This isn't a good trade for Cleveland and makes no sense with Mitchell. And now Portland has Scoot, Simons and Garland and have given up a prospect with decent size. Weird proposal

Agree, I love Garland but losing Lillard and Sharpe and only getting Garland back seems off to me. If that is the case I think they could do better by trading Lillard and trading Sharpe individually. Maybe that doesn’t net them a single player as good as Garland, but overall I think they’d get a much better package of assets.

[Zeno]

To Portland: D Garland
To Miami: D Lillard
To Cleveland: S Sharpe, T Herro, D Robinson, (2) MIA 1sts, (2) MIA Swaps

Only Miami would do this. This isn't a good trade for Cleveland and makes no sense with Mitchell. And now Portland has Scoot, Simons and Garland and have given up a prospect with decent size. Weird proposal

Agree, I love Garland but losing Lillard and Sharpe and only getting Garland back seems off to me. If that is the case I think they could do better by trading Lillard and trading Sharpe individually. Maybe that doesn’t net them a single player as good as Garland, but overall I think they’d get a much better package of assets.

Or they send Garland to a fourth team for a high level wing prospect under long term control.

[OakleyDokely]

To Portland: D Garland
To Miami: D Lillard
To Cleveland: S Sharpe, T Herro, D Robinson, (2) MIA 1sts, (2) MIA Swaps

Only Miami would do this. This isn't a good trade for Cleveland and makes no sense with Mitchell. And now Portland has Scoot, Simons and Garland and have given up a prospect with decent size. Weird proposal

Agree, I love Garland but losing Lillard and Sharpe and only getting Garland back seems off to me. If that is the case I think they could do better by trading Lillard and trading Sharpe individually. Maybe that doesn’t net them a single player as good as Garland, but overall I think they’d get a much better package of assets.

I'd rather get quality over quantity if I'm POR.

Garland is a legit 23 year old all-star. I'd bet a lot that Sharpe doesn't make an all-star game by 23. Garland would also have amazing trade value if they wanted to flip him later.

CLE doesn't do this though because they're looking to win now with Mitchell.

[Scizzup]

To Portland: D Garland
To Miami: D Lillard
To Cleveland: S Sharpe, T Herro, D Robinson, (2) MIA 1sts, (2) MIA Swaps

Only Miami would do this. This isn't a good trade for Cleveland and makes no sense with Mitchell. And now Portland has Scoot, Simons and Garland and have given up a prospect with decent size. Weird proposal

Agree, I love Garland but losing Lillard and Sharpe and only getting Garland back seems off to me. If that is the case I think they could do better by trading Lillard and trading Sharpe individually. Maybe that doesn’t net them a single player as good as Garland, but overall I think they’d get a much better package of assets.

Only getting Garland back is crazy talk.

Cle ain't trading Garland or even entertaining that. He is a 23 year old borderline all star guard on a great deal and team control. if PDX could get Garland they would pack Dame bag. Move Sharpe and Simons if u have to and pair Garland/Scoot.


Garland is going to make all star/nba teams than Pascal for their career. He is really good and one of the better offensive players already.

[NotMyKawhi]

I think Garland is good fit with Scoot because he has some size and he can play off ball.

I don't think CLE does this though. If they trade Garland it will be for a proven (near) all-star type.

The Blazers don't do it. Why would you trade your 2 best assets for a PG when you just drafted a PG? Garland isn't that big

Scoot really isn't a PG in the traditional sense. Pairing him with a playmaker who can hit shots makes sense to me.

Nah, he's a point guard if there ever was a PG. Pass first guy. He can't even shoot so he can't play off ball

[OakleyDokely]

The Blazers don't do it. Why would you trade your 2 best assets for a PG when you just drafted a PG? Garland isn't that big

Scoot really isn't a PG in the traditional sense. Pairing him with a playmaker who can hit shots makes sense to me.

Nah, he's a point guard if there ever was a PG. Pass first guy. He can't even shoot so he can't play off ball

Garland can play off ball though. He's a very good shooter and would make up for what Scoot lacks from distance.

[Raptors Realtor]

Pass.

POR needs to work toward contention at some point in the future. KAT won’t be a part of that.

JRoy one thing I've observed from you, is that you're remarkable at swatting away all trades, but unremarkable about suggesting any trades whatsoever... So let's hear it, specifically what are some reasonable & realistic deals for Dame taking into account the appeal for both/all teams involved, and please exclude the Raptors from your offers.

I swat away bad trades and it’s a full time job.

My demands for Lillard are not unrealistic and excluding TOR is a good idea because I don’t think it’s the right direction for TOR.

For example I don’t turn my nose up at Ben Simmons like most others do; he’s a substantial risk but a huge payoff if he buys in to his role on a young team. He might thrive in that role and allow Scoot to learn and grow in the meantime.

I’d want a load of picks, not just for Lillard but for assuming the risk that comes with taking his contract. BKN can keep their Dinwiddies and Joe Harrises.

I’d take Clowney and make them eat Nurk. Done.

I can't believe I'm going to say it, but that's actually a pretty good deal for both teams (depending on the pick package, but obviously picks would be required)...

Portland gets younger, with an opportunity/upside to increase Simmons all time low value. I think Simmons does need a complete reset to his career, and a rebuilding team away from the bright lights of NYC where there is no pressure or expectations is a perfect place for that to happen. Also, it allows him to use his greatest asset - passing, to setup his young teammates with more shots. On the flip side, it gets Brooklyn off Simmons contract and upgrade their shooting while attempting to contend immediately.

[NotMyKawhi]

Scoot really isn't a PG in the traditional sense. Pairing him with a playmaker who can hit shots makes sense to me.

Nah, he's a point guard if there ever was a PG. Pass first guy. He can't even shoot so he can't play off ball

Garland can play off ball though. He's a very good shooter and would make up for what Scoot lacks from distance.

I rather Scoot and sharpe than Scoot and garland. Makes no sense to trade for garland

[Senbonzakura]

We've already locked ourselves into not rebuilding. Scottie will not be able to realize his potential with Siakam on the roster.

I would call Portland and offer Scottie, Achiuwa and then Porter JR, Thad Young and Chris Boucher for Lillard.

Lillard-GTJ-OG-Siakam-Poeltl could do something in the playoffs.

[Potential]

Scottie for Dame
OG for Brown

Dame
Brown
OPJ
Siakam
Poeltl

[Raptors Realtor]

We've already locked ourselves into not rebuilding. Scottie will not be able to realize his potential with Siakam on the roster.

I would call Portland and offer Scottie, Achiuwa and then Porter JR, Thad Young and Chris Boucher for Lillard.

Lillard-GTJ-OG-Siakam-Poeltl could do something in the playoffs.

They might do something, but they won't be winning a chip... You don't trade a 21yr old up & coming star for a 33yr old who has struggled his whole career to lead many different Portland teams to the playoffs.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

We've already locked ourselves into not rebuilding. Scottie will not be able to realize his potential with Siakam on the roster.

I would call Portland and offer Scottie, Achiuwa and then Porter JR, Thad Young and Chris Boucher for Lillard.

Lillard-GTJ-OG-Siakam-Poeltl could do something in the playoffs.

They might do something, but they won't be winning a chip... You don't trade a 21yr old up & coming star for a 33yr old who has struggled his whole career to lead many different Portland teams to the playoffs.

I think youve gotta seriously think what Barnes ceiling is and whether he can lead you to a chip. If not then he may be fair game for 3 years worth of contention

[will]

We've already locked ourselves into not rebuilding. Scottie will not be able to realize his potential with Siakam on the roster.

I would call Portland and offer Scottie, Achiuwa and then Porter JR, Thad Young and Chris Boucher for Lillard.

Lillard-GTJ-OG-Siakam-Poeltl could do something in the playoffs.

They might do something, but they won't be winning a chip... You don't trade a 21yr old up & coming star for a 33yr old who has struggled his whole career to lead many different Portland teams to the playoffs.

I think youve gotta seriously think what Barnes ceiling is and whether he can lead you to a chip. If not then he may be fair game for 3 years worth of contention

Scottish is not the THE go-to guy. He is a guy that has the potential to be a very very good facilitator and play maker. He's not the one to rely on to get buckets, although based on what he was doing in the 4th quarter last season....

[Raptors Realtor]

We've already locked ourselves into not rebuilding. Scottie will not be able to realize his potential with Siakam on the roster.

I would call Portland and offer Scottie, Achiuwa and then Porter JR, Thad Young and Chris Boucher for Lillard.

Lillard-GTJ-OG-Siakam-Poeltl could do something in the playoffs.

They might do something, but they won't be winning a chip... You don't trade a 21yr old up & coming star for a 33yr old who has struggled his whole career to lead many different Portland teams to the playoffs.

I think youve gotta seriously think what Barnes ceiling is and whether he can lead you to a chip. If not then he may be fair game for 3 years worth of contention

I think you gotta realize he's only 21, and that his numbers this early in his career rival many other current stars in this league when they were the same age. I also don't believe Dame can be the guy to lead a team to a championship when he's struggled his whole career to even lead teams to the playoffs, let alone anywhere near the finals... I'd take 15 years of Scottie vs 3 years of Dame anyday.

[will]

They might do something, but they won't be winning a chip... You don't trade a 21yr old up & coming star for a 33yr old who has struggled his whole career to lead many different Portland teams to the playoffs.

I think youve gotta seriously think what Barnes ceiling is and whether he can lead you to a chip. If not then he may be fair game for 3 years worth of contention

I think you gotta realize he's only 21, and that his numbers this early in his career rival many other current stars in this league when they were the same age. I also don't believe Dame can be the guy to lead a team to a championship when he's struggled his whole career to even lead teams to the playoffs, let alone anywhere near the finals... Is date 15 years of Scottie vs 3 years of Dame anyday.

Real talk!

[Raptors Realtor]

They might do something, but they won't be winning a chip... You don't trade a 21yr old up & coming star for a 33yr old who has struggled his whole career to lead many different Portland teams to the playoffs.

I think youve gotta seriously think what Barnes ceiling is and whether he can lead you to a chip. If not then he may be fair game for 3 years worth of contention

Scottish is not the THE go-to guy. He is a guy that has the potential to be a very very good facilitator and play maker. He's not the one to rely on to get buckets, although based on what he was doing in the 4th quarter last season....

He doesn't have to be the go-to scorer cause he can do so many other things well... Are you confident Dame can be the guy to lead this team to a title in the next 2-3 years?

[will]

I think youve gotta seriously think what Barnes ceiling is and whether he can lead you to a chip. If not then he may be fair game for 3 years worth of contention

Scottish is not the THE go-to guy. He is a guy that has the potential to be a very very good facilitator and play maker. He's not the one to rely on to get buckets, although based on what he was doing in the 4th quarter last season....

He doesn't have to be the go-to scorer cause he can do so many other things well... Are you confident Dame can be the guy to lead this team to a title in the next 2-3 years?

We done seen what Dame has done with POR in the playoffs.

They have gone nowhere. Never seen a legit POR playoff run with Dame where I could confidently say they were the ones.

[Raptors Realtor]

Scottish is not the THE go-to guy. He is a guy that has the potential to be a very very good facilitator and play maker. He's not the one to rely on to get buckets, although based on what he was doing in the 4th quarter last season....

He doesn't have to be the go-to scorer cause he can do so many other things well... Are you confident Dame can be the guy to lead this team to a title in the next 2-3 years?

We done seen what Dame has done with POR in the playoffs.

They have gone nowhere. Never seen a legit POR playoff run with Dame where I could confidently say they were the ones.

Lol exactly... That's why I'm pulling JRoy styles on all these potential Dame/Raps offers.

[will]

He doesn't have to be the go-to scorer cause he can do so many other things well... Are you confident Dame can be the guy to lead this team to a title in the next 2-3 years?

We done seen what Dame has done with POR in the playoffs.

They have gone nowhere. Never seen a legit POR playoff run with Dame where I could confidently say they were the ones.

Lol exactly... That's why I'm pulling JRoy styles on all these potential Dame/Raps offers.

So you are not the only secret JRoy lookalike on our board.

Game recognize Game.

[Webstersweb]

We done seen what Dame has done with POR in the playoffs.

They have gone nowhere. Never seen a legit POR playoff run with Dame where I could confidently say they were the ones.

Lol exactly... That's why I'm pulling JRoy styles on all these potential Dame/Raps offers.

So you are not the only secret JRoy lookalike on our board.

Game recognize Game.

While I would be hesitant to give up Scottie for Lillard too , my argument would be Scottie may or may not turn out to be a great player while Lillard already is. I guess the argument boils down to whether you see Lillard Siakam and OG as the main 3 pieces for a contender. I, personally do. But wouldn't be mad either ways.