Will Jaden Springer Have a Role This Season?

Negrodamus · Post #61 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 2:49 am

the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:He should because he'll probably be a top 5-10 wing defender in the league.

To get enough court time to prove that… he’s going to have to be able to shoot it respectably. 34-35%. Can he do that? I don’t think so, but we’re going to find out,

We had Matisse Thybulle on this team playing meaningful minutes. I think they can figure out a way to get Springer on the court.

TheBallsDeeper · Post #62 » by **TheBallsDeeper** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 3:07 am

Negrodamus wrote:

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Man, Doc really sucked lol.

Wow, what an amazing change - a coach doing his job.....

That one line should ensure Doc is never hired again. Surely he can't live off getting lucky with a super team forever.

the_process · Post #63 » by **the_process** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 12:02 am

Negrodamus wrote:
the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:He should because he'll probably be a top 5-10 wing defender in the league.

To get enough court time to prove that… he’s going to have to be able to shoot it respectably. 34-35%. Can he do that? I don’t think so, but we’re going to find out,

We had Matisse Thybulle on this team playing meaningful minutes. I think they can figure out a way to get Springer on the court.

They ended up benching Thybulle even while he was making All Defense teams. Because he sucked on offense. And Springer is worse. So don't see any role for this guy on a non-tanking team.

Negrodamus · Post #64 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 12:17 am

the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
the_process wrote:
To get enough court time to prove that… he’s going to have to be able to shoot it respectably. 34-35%. Can he do that? I don’t think so, but we’re going to find out,

We had Matisse Thybulle on this team playing meaningful minutes. I think they can figure out a way to get Springer on the court.

They ended up benching Thybulle even while he was making All Defense teams. Because he sucked on offense. And Springer is worse. So don't see any role for this guy on a non-tanking team.

What suggests Springer is even worse?

Arsenal · Post #65 » by **Arsenal** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 12:39 am

He's not. As shooting-challenged as Springer is, he's a way better overall offensive player than Thybulle. Come on man!

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #66 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 4:50 am

Springer finishing is wayyy better than Thybulle. Better dribble,passer and shotblocker. Thybulles great a one thing deflections and that's it .. Springer can certainly be a better shooter than thybulle and already is a better offensive player than thybulle ever was. Oh and he's only 20. Springer is a underated athlete. The kid is really really athletic.

Jay555 · Post #67 » by **Jay555** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 5:40 am

Springer is way more skilled than Thybulle. Thybulle has very limited offensive game.

mjkvol · Post #68 » by **mjkvol** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 1:06 pm

the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
the_process wrote:
To get enough court time to prove that… he’s going to have to be able to shoot it respectably. 34-35%. Can he do that? I don’t think so, but we’re going to find out,

We had Matisse Thybulle on this team playing meaningful minutes. I think they can figure out a way to get Springer on the court.

They ended up benching Thybulle even while he was making All Defense teams. Because he sucked on offense. And Springer is worse. So don't see any role for this guy on a non-tanking team.

As others have said, Springer at this stage is a far better overall player than Thybulle, and he's only 20. Thybulle was never a great on-ball defender and was prone to silly fouls at the worst times, and he was a complete zero offensively.

Springer already has elite defense skills, has far more court sense and is a good passer, he just needs to work on his jumper. I would take him as is over Thybulle every day of the week.

Iverson Armband · Post #69 » by **Iverson Armband** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 1:08 pm

They both currently suck, tbh.

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #70 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 3:40 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:They both currently suck, tbh.

Negrodamus · Post #71 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 4:46 pm

Jaden has played one game in his career over 15 minutes and scored 19 points (and had Trae shooting 1-6 from 3 in a Sixer win). Matisse's career high is 20 points, lol.

Jailblazers7 · Post #72 » by **Jailblazers7** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 5:00 pm

Springer knows how to play offense but can’t shoot. Matisse doesn’t know how to play offense AND he can’t shoot. Matisse gave the anecdote that he would smoke wide open fast break layups during his youth & he still plays with that type of cluelessness.

Arsenal · Post #73 » by **Arsenal** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 5:10 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Jaden has played one game in his career over 15 minutes and scored 19 points (and had Trae shooting 1-6 from 3 in a Sixer win). Matisse's career high is 20 points, lol.

Yep. They need to play Jaden 20+ mpg this year and let him figure out the rest on the court.

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #74 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 5:31 pm

Jaden can play and that **** will come. He's a NBA wing in this league tho.

Iverson Armband · Post #75 » by **Iverson Armband** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 6:09 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Jaden can play and that **** will come. He's a NBA wing in this league tho.

phillynative · Post #76 » by **phillynative** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 7:58 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Jaden can play and that **** will come. He's a NBA wing in this league tho.

Yea I was hoping he would show some combo guard ability to potentially pair up with Maxey in the backcourt. Right now its looking more like he will be a undersized wing especially with how I saw the other guards on the team Terq, Smart and Steward navigate with the ball and that flat outside shot of his.

Hopefully his next showing he can knock a couple outside shots down and maybe not go too hard on defense as he seemed to get banged up a couple times towards the end of the game.

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #77 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 8:16 pm

Springer needs to take Melton's mins. Melton is a play off choker and is probably maxed out at this point. We need to trade him and Korkmaz salary for a forward we can compete with that has length and athleticism.

phiphan · Post #78 » by **phiphan** » Wed Jul 5, 2023 11:15 pm

We’ll be lucky if Springer becomes as useful a player as Melton.

Post #79 » by **Ben** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:54 pm

the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
the_process wrote:
To get enough court time to prove that… he’s going to have to be able to shoot it respectably. 34-35%. Can he do that? I don’t think so, but we’re going to find out,

We had Matisse Thybulle on this team playing meaningful minutes. I think they can figure out a way to get Springer on the court.

They ended up benching Thybulle even while he was making All Defense teams. Because he sucked on offense. And Springer is worse. So don't see any role for this guy on a non-tanking team.

I don't understand this at all. It's not just that Springer shot 46.7% from 3 in college-- it couldn't be just that, becuase it was a VERY small sample size. But it's obvious that Springer can shoot. When did we ever see a bunch of moves like this from Thybulle in a single game?

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Skates · Post #80 » by **Skates** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 7:13 pm

Springer seems much more comfortable attacking the basket and in the nid range when creating. His three point shot off the dribble is much flatter than on catch and shoots. So while I'm not sure his C&S three point percentage with match Melton's at this point, he will deserve a close out and can attack those off the dribble. In some ways he is more of a throwback to a 1990's guard at this point, but he isn't afraid to shoot or drive, which is more than you can say for most of our bench players past and present.