Trade/Free Agency Thread, part Ocho, 2023-24
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Tatum's like, "Why da fuq did I waste my time sliding into Dame's DM then, Brad??!"
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New Himmelsbach just dropped. Looks like we're out of the Dame sweepstakes.
I guess we can now look forward to..*checks notes* Javonte Green and Blake Griffin....
I guess we can now look forward to..*checks notes* Javonte Green and Blake Griffin....
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Celtics are lying of course.
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Dame and his agent and the media is really pushing the whole Dame to Miami thing.
Its **** anoying.
Part of me is starting to hope he goes there and after gutting the team for him and they fail bigtime.
Its **** anoying.
Part of me is starting to hope he goes there and after gutting the team for him and they fail bigtime.
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While Brad collects 2nd rounders, HOU just giving them away. For Dillon **** Brooks, of all players.
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fallguy wrote:Celtics are lying of course.
I'm leaning towards that too. Wouldn't surprise me to see Stevens and Cronin chatting it up during Vegas summer league, maybe even grabbing a meal afterwards. Facts: Tatum has been recruiting Dame and the ddb Intel. With that much smoke, there has to be a fire.
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So in the event that dame lands in Miami I can't imagine a scenario where Miami sends less than: Herro, Robinson, Martin, jovik, and their rook out with Dame and nurkic coming back...... Does that team even scare anyone?
Dame, Butler, Richardson , Nurkic, Bam
Call me crazy but I think we can top that
That would mean they lost strus, martin, Zeller, Vincent, dipo, Robinson, Herro, and jaquez
With Love and Lowry being even older
Dame, Butler, Richardson , Nurkic, Bam
Call me crazy but I think we can top that
That would mean they lost strus, martin, Zeller, Vincent, dipo, Robinson, Herro, and jaquez
With Love and Lowry being even older
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Every time I want to build a Brad Stevens statue. I am wanting to tear it down..
Brad, do something
Brad, do something
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. 

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ajones9219 wrote:So in the event that dame lands in Miami I can't imagine a scenario where Miami sends less than: Herro, Robinson, Martin, jovik, and their rook out with Dame and nurkic coming back...... Does that team even scare anyone?
Dame, Butler, Richardson , Nurkic, Bam
Call me crazy but I think we can top that
That would mean they lost strus, martin, Zeller, Vincent, dipo, Robinson, Herro, and jaquez
They just beat us with 8 undrafted players.. So of course they can beat us again.... We still have an idiot coach and they have the best.. That alone counts for a lot.
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. 

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playa-hater wrote:Every time I want to build a Brad Stevens statue. I am wanting to tear it down..
Brad, do something

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playa-hater wrote:ajones9219 wrote:So in the event that dame lands in Miami I can't imagine a scenario where Miami sends less than: Herro, Robinson, Martin, jovik, and their rook out with Dame and nurkic coming back...... Does that team even scare anyone?
Dame, Butler, Richardson , Nurkic, Bam
Call me crazy but I think we can top that
That would mean they lost strus, martin, Zeller, Vincent, dipo, Robinson, Herro, and jaquez
They just beat us with 8 undrafted players.. So of course they can beat us again.... We still have an idiot coach and they have the best.. That alone counts for a lot.
Disagree on the coach but I'll let that lie.
We get beat by lesser teams with Brad, ime, and Joe. At some point it's on the roster. I am in the minority who thinks clearing out smart will fix a lot of our mental issues
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zoyathedestroya wrote:playa-hater wrote:Every time I want to build a Brad Stevens statue. I am wanting to tear it down..
Brad, do something
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That's not what I meant
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. 

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ajones9219 wrote:playa-hater wrote:ajones9219 wrote:So in the event that dame lands in Miami I can't imagine a scenario where Miami sends less than: Herro, Robinson, Martin, jovik, and their rook out with Dame and nurkic coming back...... Does that team even scare anyone?
Dame, Butler, Richardson , Nurkic, Bam
Call me crazy but I think we can top that
That would mean they lost strus, martin, Zeller, Vincent, dipo, Robinson, Herro, and jaquez
They just beat us with 8 undrafted players.. So of course they can beat us again.... We still have an idiot coach and they have the best.. That alone counts for a lot.
Disagree on the coach but I'll let that lie.
We get beat by lesser teams with Brad, ime, and Joe. At some point it's on the roster. I am in the minority who thinks clearing out smart will fix a lot of our mental issues
Smart out and the zinger in was a very good move.. But I still do not trust this coach..
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. 

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playa-hater wrote:ajones9219 wrote:playa-hater wrote:
They just beat us with 8 undrafted players.. So of course they can beat us again.... We still have an idiot coach and they have the best.. That alone counts for a lot.
Disagree on the coach but I'll let that lie.
We get beat by lesser teams with Brad, ime, and Joe. At some point it's on the roster. I am in the minority who thinks clearing out smart will fix a lot of our mental issues
Smart out and the zinger in was a very good move.. But I still do not trust this coach..
Well we also stacked the bench with some of the best assistants in the league sooo
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playa-hater wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:playa-hater wrote:Every time I want to build a Brad Stevens statue. I am wanting to tear it down..
Brad, do something
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO![]()
That's not what I meant
look at the date
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Everybody seems to think that there has to be some sort of follow up move, but i think the likeliest outcome here is that the c's are close to done.
Jaylen signs his extension can't be traded for a year. The c's stay below the 2nd apron by not bringing back Grant which cuts down on their tax bill this year and avoids his long term contract on the books next year. The maintain the ability to still go over the 2nd apron using the 6.5ish million dollar TPE they generated if an interesting guy on a rookie scale deal becomes available. They were probably at one point looking to move Brogdon, but with Grant not returning moving getting off his deal this year doesn't really matter all that much, and with Smart gone he's kind of important for guard depth.
Things to watch for:
1) Jaylen's extension: Will it be for full 35%? Or will they be able to negotiate him down a bit? Will it have options, an ETO, ect?
2) Which of the 2nd rounder makes the team? Walsh probably a good bet on a 3+1 with the 2nd round exception. Most guys in the 30's get guaranteed contracts. Beyond that Davidson/Begarin/Yam all options for end of bench or 2-ways.
3) Will they use the tax-MLE? Seems unlikely, hardcaps them and they'd be RIGHT up against the cap with no flexibility as constructed. Not really a lot of free agents left worth doing that for.
4) Do they use TPE? Seems unlikely but possible, would likely put them over 2nd apron. Would have to be for a guy on a rookie or value deal they really like.
5) Veteran ring chasers: Can they get anybody to take the vet min to come here for a title chase? As the market squeezes guys out maybe they get a surprise addition.
Jaylen signs his extension can't be traded for a year. The c's stay below the 2nd apron by not bringing back Grant which cuts down on their tax bill this year and avoids his long term contract on the books next year. The maintain the ability to still go over the 2nd apron using the 6.5ish million dollar TPE they generated if an interesting guy on a rookie scale deal becomes available. They were probably at one point looking to move Brogdon, but with Grant not returning moving getting off his deal this year doesn't really matter all that much, and with Smart gone he's kind of important for guard depth.
Things to watch for:
1) Jaylen's extension: Will it be for full 35%? Or will they be able to negotiate him down a bit? Will it have options, an ETO, ect?
2) Which of the 2nd rounder makes the team? Walsh probably a good bet on a 3+1 with the 2nd round exception. Most guys in the 30's get guaranteed contracts. Beyond that Davidson/Begarin/Yam all options for end of bench or 2-ways.
3) Will they use the tax-MLE? Seems unlikely, hardcaps them and they'd be RIGHT up against the cap with no flexibility as constructed. Not really a lot of free agents left worth doing that for.
4) Do they use TPE? Seems unlikely but possible, would likely put them over 2nd apron. Would have to be for a guy on a rookie or value deal they really like.
5) Veteran ring chasers: Can they get anybody to take the vet min to come here for a title chase? As the market squeezes guys out maybe they get a surprise addition.
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Larry_Russell wrote:playa-hater wrote:zoyathedestroya wrote:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO![]()
That's not what I meant
look at the date
Zoya f×cking with me
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. 





