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Post#981 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jul 2, 2023 4:29 pm

jbk1234 wrote:The Jazz extending Clarkson is a bad sign for Sexton.
They've already tried to trade him, just no real market at that number.
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Post#982 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jul 5, 2023 11:50 pm

Chris Finch said Reid’s role will be as a backup 4 and a backup 5, but that he isn’t ruling out playing Reid, Karl-Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert all at the same time.

Where have i seen this before? lol
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Post#983 » by ijspeelman » Thu Jul 6, 2023 12:08 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:Chris Finch said Reid’s role will be as a backup 4 and a backup 5, but that he isn’t ruling out playing Reid, Karl-Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert all at the same time.

Where have i seen this before? lol


Something tells me that wouldn’t work since Gobert is the most switchable of the three lol
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Post#984 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jul 6, 2023 1:51 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Chris Finch said Reid’s role will be as a backup 4 and a backup 5, but that he isn’t ruling out playing Reid, Karl-Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert all at the same time.

Where have i seen this before? lol


Something tells me that wouldn’t work since Gobert is the most switchable of the three lol
Yeah Naz' 5 man data didn't prove he's a good fit with a traditional big like Gobert but shoot if Finch wants to copy the 21-22 Cavs, so be it. McDaniels probably makes more sense as the 3rd "big" next to KAT and Rudy like they did last season tho.
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Post#986 » by JonFromVA » Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:09 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/nba-champion-attempting-comeback-dion-waiters-most-recently-played-for-heat-and-lakers

i think we found our man for the 14th roster spot


Hard to believe he was out of the league at 28, probably should have begged the Heat to take him back - looked almost like a player with them.

John Wall is also out shopping around for a job.
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Post#987 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:32 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/nba-champion-attempting-comeback-dion-waiters-most-recently-played-for-heat-and-lakers

i think we found our man for the 14th roster spot


Hard to believe he was out of the league at 28, probably should have begged the Heat to take him back - looked almost like a player with them.

John Wall is also out shopping around for a job.
After the airplane fiasco i don't think he could ever wear a Heat uniform again.
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Post#988 » by JonFromVA » Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:23 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/nba-champion-attempting-comeback-dion-waiters-most-recently-played-for-heat-and-lakers

i think we found our man for the 14th roster spot


Hard to believe he was out of the league at 28, probably should have begged the Heat to take him back - looked almost like a player with them.

John Wall is also out shopping around for a job.
After the airplane fiasco i don't think he could ever wear a Heat uniform again.


Forgot about that, did they trade him immediately after his suspension?
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Post#989 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:39 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
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Hard to believe he was out of the league at 28, probably should have begged the Heat to take him back - looked almost like a player with them.

John Wall is also out shopping around for a job.
After the airplane fiasco i don't think he could ever wear a Heat uniform again.


Forgot about that, did they trade him immediately after his suspension?
I had to freshen up with some wiki. Looks like he was suspended 3 times that season. So not traded right away but by the trade deadline.
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Post#990 » by KGDirkTD_Fan » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:48 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/nba-champion-attempting-comeback-dion-waiters-most-recently-played-for-heat-and-lakers

i think we found our man for the 14th roster spot


Hard to believe he was out of the league at 28, probably should have begged the Heat to take him back - looked almost like a player with them.

John Wall is also out shopping around for a job.
I'm not surprised to be honest. He has the skills and ability to play a long career in the NBA, he's just always held himself back in some way. I thought he figured it out in Miami and then before you know it he was done. I miss the dude back during our big 3 Kyrie-Dion-TT years hahaha.

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Post#991 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jul 10, 2023 6:53 pm

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JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/news/nba-champion-attempting-comeback-dion-waiters-most-recently-played-for-heat-and-lakers

i think we found our man for the 14th roster spot


Hard to believe he was out of the league at 28, probably should have begged the Heat to take him back - looked almost like a player with them.

John Wall is also out shopping around for a job.
I'm not surprised to be honest. He has the skills and ability to play a long career in the NBA, he's just always held himself back in some way. I thought he figured it out in Miami and then before you know it he was done. I miss the dude back during our big 3 Kyrie-Dion-TT years hahaha.

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Post#992 » by mcfly1204 » Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:42 pm

I thought Waiters would be what Mitchell is.
Well at least we're not Detroit!
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Post#993 » by JonFromVA » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:11 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:I thought Waiters would be what Mitchell is.


I thought the Cavs were taking a big risk drafting a two year College player who Jim Boeheim felt was best deployed as a Sixth man.

I imagine the failure of that pick had something to do with the Cavs change in draft philosophy, because while Dion and Donovan weren't very far apart as prospects coming in to the league: Mitchell kept getting better while Waiters barely changed.

At least the Cavs didn't draft Thomas Robinson...
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Post#994 » by JujitsuFlip » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:03 pm

JonFromVA wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:I thought Waiters would be what Mitchell is.


I thought the Cavs were taking a big risk drafting a two year College player who Jim Boeheim felt was best deployed as a Sixth man.

I imagine the failure of that pick had something to do with the Cavs change in draft philosophy, because while Dion and Donovan weren't very far apart as prospects coming in to the league: Mitchell kept getting better while Waiters barely changed.

At least the Cavs didn't draft Thomas Robinson...
It also made no sense to draft a guy they didn't even workout but he gave me his autograph, so he'll always be chill in my book.
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Post#995 » by JonFromVA » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:03 am

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JonFromVA wrote:
mcfly1204 wrote:I thought Waiters would be what Mitchell is.


I thought the Cavs were taking a big risk drafting a two year College player who Jim Boeheim felt was best deployed as a Sixth man.

I imagine the failure of that pick had something to do with the Cavs change in draft philosophy, because while Dion and Donovan weren't very far apart as prospects coming in to the league: Mitchell kept getting better while Waiters barely changed.

At least the Cavs didn't draft Thomas Robinson...
It also made no sense to draft a guy they didn't even workout but he gave me his autograph, so he'll always be chill in my book.


College coaches will sometimes go too far to promote their guy, alas Gilbert didn't listen to Izzo who tried to tell him to go get Draymond.
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Post#996 » by JujitsuFlip » Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:10 am

JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
I thought the Cavs were taking a big risk drafting a two year College player who Jim Boeheim felt was best deployed as a Sixth man.

I imagine the failure of that pick had something to do with the Cavs change in draft philosophy, because while Dion and Donovan weren't very far apart as prospects coming in to the league: Mitchell kept getting better while Waiters barely changed.

At least the Cavs didn't draft Thomas Robinson...
It also made no sense to draft a guy they didn't even workout but he gave me his autograph, so he'll always be chill in my book.


College coaches will sometimes go too far to promote their guy, alas Gilbert didn't listen to Izzo who tried to tell him to go get Draymond.
The amount of prospects the Cavs have passed over drafting in just the past 20 years, hurts my soul.
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Post#997 » by JonFromVA » Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:51 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:It also made no sense to draft a guy they didn't even workout but he gave me his autograph, so he'll always be chill in my book.


College coaches will sometimes go too far to promote their guy, alas Gilbert didn't listen to Izzo who tried to tell him to go get Draymond.
The amount of prospects the Cavs have passed over drafting in just the past 20 years, hurts my soul.


Sure, they've missed out on a ton of players, but this was different in that this was a case Gilbert could have meddled with the process by favoring his love of MSU and Tom Izzo and we would have greatly benefited.
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Post#998 » by KGDirkTD_Fan » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:35 am

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KGDirkTD_Fan wrote:
JonFromVA wrote:
Hard to believe he was out of the league at 28, probably should have begged the Heat to take him back - looked almost like a player with them.

John Wall is also out shopping around for a job.
I'm not surprised to be honest. He has the skills and ability to play a long career in the NBA, he's just always held himself back in some way. I thought he figured it out in Miami and then before you know it he was done. I miss the dude back during our big 3 Kyrie-Dion-TT years hahaha.

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College coaches will sometimes go too far to promote their guy, alas Gilbert didn't listen to Izzo who tried to tell him to go get Draymond.
The amount of prospects the Cavs have passed over drafting in just the past 20 years, hurts my soul.


Sure, they've missed out on a ton of players, but this was different in that this was a case Gilbert could have meddled with the process by favoring his love of MSU and Tom Izzo and we would have greatly benefited.
Kind of surprising that never materialized despite how involved he was with the team when he was in better health.

The Cavs in some sense going back as long as I've followed the team growing up (since 2002) we've had periods that was genuinely like "trust the process" level of poor drafting. Definitely with that in mind we are lucky to not have been terrible for many years.

The way the NBA is today, many teams aren't free agency destinations for top tier FA, and if you can't draft & develop talent, it's really hard to field a half decent team in the NBA.

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Post#999 » by JujitsuFlip » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:58 am

KGDirkTD_Fan wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
KGDirkTD_Fan wrote:I'm not surprised to be honest. He has the skills and ability to play a long career in the NBA, he's just always held himself back in some way. I thought he figured it out in Miami and then before you know it he was done. I miss the dude back during our big 3 Kyrie-Dion-TT years hahaha.

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JujitsuFlip wrote:The amount of prospects the Cavs have passed over drafting in just the past 20 years, hurts my soul.


Sure, they've missed out on a ton of players, but this was different in that this was a case Gilbert could have meddled with the process by favoring his love of MSU and Tom Izzo and we would have greatly benefited.
Kind of surprising that never materialized despite how involved he was with the team when he was in better health.

The Cavs in some sense going back as long as I've followed the team growing up (since 2002) we've had periods that was genuinely like "trust the process" level of poor drafting. Definitely with that in mind we are lucky to not have been terrible for many years.

The way the NBA is today, many teams aren't free agency destinations for top tier FA, and if you can't draft & develop talent, it's really hard to field a half decent team in the NBA.

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Post#1000 » by jbk1234 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:25 pm

I was on Waiters Island for so long they still send me timeshare literature.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.

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