**The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two**

[urinesane]

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It’s important to remember not just the highlights, but the defensive lowlights, too.

Remember everything.

I bet you're fun at parties.

[shangrila]

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Honestly, if that's all Michelobius can come up for reasons to trade Towns, he's not trying too hard.

Reading some of his other tweets makes me think critical thought isn't much of a priority for him.

But I'm glad Klomp could find some random nobody who agrees with his point of view.

[m2002brian]

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Honestly, if that's all Michelobius can come up for reasons to trade Towns, he's not trying too hard.

A lot of the other reasons to trade Towns such as fit, defense, flexibility, etc are encompassed in the point "unlikely to find a replacement as good". Working around the cap is a non issue if owner is willing to paid. Get draft picks as currency for future trade but those picks can also go down in value. So may as well holding on to Towns as currency until a good replacement is found in a trade. I don't think he missed a lot of points but he is certainly in the don't trade Towns yet camp.

Could that be Chet?

[TimberKat]

Chet is a very interesting one. Can his body hold up to NBA schedule? He certainly is looking better in summer league. Chet for Towns would sell more tickets for sure. I will assume he is quicker than Towns and plays more like a wing. It's a possibility.

[jpatrick]

Chet is a very interesting one. Can his body hold up to NBA schedule? He certainly is looking better in summer league. Chet for Towns would sell more tickets for sure. I will assume he is quicker than Towns and plays more like a wing. It's a possibility.

Chet’s trade value is significantly higher than KAT’s given contract. Chet will not be the scorer that Towns is but he will be a much better complimentary player because he will be a defensively stud once his body fills out and also a good offensive player with high BBIQ.

I’ve said it before, but I could see OKC as a trade partner for Towns, not because they’d give up Chet, but because they’d want to pair the two of them together. Chet’s abilities cover for a lot of Towns’ defensive shortcomings.

[Klomp]

I’ve said it before, but I could see OKC as a trade partner for Towns, not because they’d give up Chet, but because they’d want to pair the two of them together. Chet’s abilities cover for a lot of Towns’ defensive shortcomings.

I agree with this. While it'd be fun to trade for Holmgren, I just don't see it as realistic from OKC's perspective.

[Klomp]

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It’s important to remember not just the highlights, but the defensive lowlights, too.

Remember everything.

Good point, especially in this time where ESPN honored the GOAT last night.

Remember everything.

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[TimberKat]

Chet is a very interesting one. Can his body hold up to NBA schedule? He certainly is looking better in summer league. Chet for Towns would sell more tickets for sure. I will assume he is quicker than Towns and plays more like a wing. It's a possibility.

Chet’s trade value is significantly higher than KAT’s given contract. Chet will not be the scorer that Towns is but he will be a much better complimentary player because he will be a defensively stud once his body fills out and also a good offensive player with high BBIQ.

I’ve said it before, but I could see OKC as a trade partner for Towns, not because they’d give up Chet, but because they’d want to pair the two of them together. Chet’s abilities cover for a lot of Towns’ defensive shortcomings.

So, that leaves us with SGA or Giddey. Giddey + a boat load of picks which we can trade to get Herro.

I also value Towns higher and Chet lower, so, thinking it is a possibility. OKC would have a big 3 of SGA, Towns, Giddey. When trade established players for picks, think about KLove for Wiggins. Essentially, it turns into KLove + #1 (7 pick?) for DLo

[KGdaBom]

Chet is a very interesting one. Can his body hold up to NBA schedule? He certainly is looking better in summer league. Chet for Towns would sell more tickets for sure. I will assume he is quicker than Towns and plays more like a wing. It's a possibility.

Chet’s trade value is significantly higher than KAT’s given contract. Chet will not be the scorer that Towns is but he will be a much better complimentary player because he will be a defensively stud once his body fills out and also a good offensive player with high BBIQ.

I’ve said it before, but I could see OKC as a trade partner for Towns, not because they’d give up Chet, but because they’d want to pair the two of them together. Chet’s abilities cover for a lot of Towns’ defensive shortcomings.

I call BS that Chet's trade value is higher than Town's

[Klomp]

I will say that it's really interesting how compatible the Thunder and Wolves rosters seem to be regarding a potential Towns trade. Holmgren really is a perfect frontcourt complement for him, and Towns would be able to be the 1b to SGA's 1a. Regarding the Timberwolves, we don't have a lot of glaring needs, but I personally think Giddey is a near perfect system fit as Ant's backcourt partner. And they obviously have the picks we may want. The biggest hindrance to a deal is the gap in salary matching.

[thinktank]

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It’s important to remember not just the highlights, but the defensive lowlights, too.

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I’ll party for Ant, McDaniels, Anderson, Miller even. Sayin. It seems like people are forgetting how passive KAT can be on defense. It’s a problem. And he gets passive on O in the playoffs too. Don’t shoot the messenger. I want to see significant defensive progress. Better passing (there’s good passing and then there’s assists—I’m talking about crisp decision-making).

He’s a vet now. He needs to play more like it. Much smarter.

[KGdaBom]

It’s important to remember not just the highlights, but the defensive lowlights, too.

Remember everything.

I bet you're fun at parties.

I’ll party for Ant, McDaniels, Anderson, Miller even. Sayin. It seems like people are forgetting how passive KAT can be on defense. It’s a problem. And he gets passive on O in the playoffs too. Don’t shoot the messenger. I want to see significant defensive progress. Better passing (there’s good passing and then there’s assists—I’m talking about crisp decision-making).

He’s a vet now. He needs to play more like it. Much smarter.

You're a negative Nellie.

[thinktank]

I bet you're fun at parties.

I’ll party for Ant, McDaniels, Anderson, Miller even. Sayin. It seems like people are forgetting how passive KAT can be on defense. It’s a problem. And he gets passive on O in the playoffs too. Don’t shoot the messenger. I want to see significant defensive progress. Better passing (there’s good passing and then there’s assists—I’m talking about crisp decision-making).

He’s a vet now. He needs to play more like it. Much smarter.

You're a negative Nellie.

False. I’m being real with you, man. And I notice you’re shooting the messenger instead of talking basketball. Maybe that’s easier than refuting what I observe and communicate. If you have thoughts on KAT, I’m listening. I’d say the same thing to anyone in this thread.

[KGdaBom]

I’ll party for Ant, McDaniels, Anderson, Miller even. Sayin. It seems like people are forgetting how passive KAT can be on defense. It’s a problem. And he gets passive on O in the playoffs too. Don’t shoot the messenger. I want to see significant defensive progress. Better passing (there’s good passing and then there’s assists—I’m talking about crisp decision-making).

He’s a vet now. He needs to play more like it. Much smarter.

You're a negative Nellie.

False. I’m being real with you, man. And I notice you’re shooting the messenger instead of talking basketball. Maybe that’s easier than refuting what I observe and communicate. If you have thoughts on KAT, I’m listening. I’d say the same thing to anyone in this thread.

KAT is possibly the best player on our team. I was just messing with you even though I think you're a bit negative. I'm looking forward to a great and healthy season for him

[KGdaBom]

Minott after the worst half of his NBA career having a great second half.

[younggunsmn]

I will say that it's really interesting how compatible the Thunder and Wolves rosters seem to be regarding a potential Towns trade. Holmgren really is a perfect frontcourt complement for him, and Towns would be able to be the 1b to SGA's 1a. Regarding the Timberwolves, we don't have a lot of glaring needs, but I personally think Giddey is a near perfect system fit as Ant's backcourt partner. And they obviously have the picks we may want. The biggest hindrance to a deal is the gap in salary matching.

As much as it would be great to get our hands on Giddey and/or their treasure trove of draft picks,
I think their front office is way too smart to touch KAT's contract.
Especially in their smaller market.
I just don't think he is a fit there.

They are building out a really nice deep roster after having a nice 10 year run with 2-3 superstar players, that was probably a good role player away from a title a few of those years.
They were a play-in win away from the playoffs playing scrub big men all year. Chet will help a lot if he stays healthy.

Giddey/Cason Wallace
SGA/Jalen Williams
Dort
Chet

Lots of really good 2-way players. KAT doesn't fit that.
And I think Giddey is probably their 2nd cornerstone piece after SGA, he's just such a tremendous all around player.
The reason we'd love to put him next to Ant is the same reason they wouldn't trade him.

[TimberKat]

I will say that it's really interesting how compatible the Thunder and Wolves rosters seem to be regarding a potential Towns trade. Holmgren really is a perfect frontcourt complement for him, and Towns would be able to be the 1b to SGA's 1a. Regarding the Timberwolves, we don't have a lot of glaring needs, but I personally think Giddey is a near perfect system fit as Ant's backcourt partner. And they obviously have the picks we may want. The biggest hindrance to a deal is the gap in salary matching.

I am thinking a four team trade for the salary to be work. The basic framework are:
MN: out Towns; in Giddey, Herro, one #1
OKC: out Giddey, 3 #1; in Towns
MIA: out Herro, 4#1; in Dame
POR: out Dame; in 6#1, salary

Giddey+Herro makes salary work. At least between those 2, one of them has a chance to be an all star. We can debate how many #1s from each team. All 4 teams gets something each want. A lot more reasonable than those Towns salary dump trades. Towns is not Beal and Wolves is not WAS in rebuild mode.

[TimberKat]

As much as it would be great to get our hands on Giddey and/or their treasure trove of draft picks,
I think their front office is way too smart to touch KAT's contract.
Especially in their smaller market.
I just don't think he is a fit there.

You make it sound like Giddey is Chris Paul. He is not at all star level yet and may not reach it. OKC are going to paid out 3 max contracts if Giddy or Chet turns out to be selected to a single all star game. So it's either paid Towns or Giddey/Chet. As I said before, there will be 50 max contracts in NBA in a few years. Basically, any players ever makes a single all star game near their contract year will get a max contract.

[KGdaBom]

DJ Carton's dunk was the SportsCenter play of the day.

[minimus]

I will say that it's really interesting how compatible the Thunder and Wolves rosters seem to be regarding a potential Towns trade. Holmgren really is a perfect frontcourt complement for him, and Towns would be able to be the 1b to SGA's 1a. Regarding the Timberwolves, we don't have a lot of glaring needs, but I personally think Giddey is a near perfect system fit as Ant's backcourt partner. And they obviously have the picks we may want. The biggest hindrance to a deal is the gap in salary matching.

As much as it would be great to get our hands on Giddey and/or their treasure trove of draft picks,
I think their front office is way too smart to touch KAT's contract.
Especially in their smaller market.
I just don't think he is a fit there.

They are building out a really nice deep roster after having a nice 10 year run with 2-3 superstar players, that was probably a good role player away from a title a few of those years.
They were a play-in win away from the playoffs playing scrub big men all year. Chet will help a lot if he stays healthy.

Giddey/Cason Wallace
SGA/Jalen Williams
Dort
Chet

Lots of really good 2-way players. KAT doesn't fit that.
And I think Giddey is probably their 2nd cornerstone piece after SGA, he's just such a tremendous all around player.
The reason we'd love to put him next to Ant is the same reason they wouldn't trade him.

I think that Towns fit in OKC is exceptional. SGA is already elite at hitting mid range shots and slashing, but he is such an unorthodox player, because he is only average 3pt shooter in terms of accuracy and volume. He is also already a two-way player he one of the best NBA guards in terms of getting steals and blocks. From what I see Presti has been assembling a roster with multiple wings or big guards who can handle, slash and shoot:

- SGA
- Giddey - big ball handler
- Ousmane Dieng has showed excellent improvement in SL)
- Jalen Williams had most dunks by guards in 2023-24

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They have many weird big guards who can play role of bigs, and Towns is the same type of weird players, he is a big who can play role of wing/guard. They need shooting and size at С badly and they have 35 incoming picks, including 15 FRPs. Presti will need to balance amount of young players in roster, contracts and picks. I think in near future he will make consolidation trades with picks and aggressively waive young players and salary filler that he thinks does not have potential or value. For OKC 4-5 FRPs does not change much, more over I think at some point these picks will lose a lot of value during draft/development process.

Give them Towns, who can stretch the floor as five-out С and he will perform well, they will perform well. OKC also is not a basketball purgatory like CHA, HOU or DET were last season. They are solid team with identity.

As I said before I really like Cason Wallace as defensive minded comboguard. He fits our new identity build around big, strong defenders.

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Trade Towns, Moore for Cason Wallace, Oladipo (waive), Rudy Gay (waive), Bertans (keep in case we want to use him in trade later) AND 5 FRPs and couple SPRs.

Gobert/Reid/Garza
Anderson/MCD/Bertans + Miller
MCD/Brown/Edwards+ Minott
Edwards/NAW/Milton
Conley/Wallace/Milton

I really think that next step will be getting a big shooting wing/guard. Just look at young player in our roster:

Edwards
MCD
Reid
NAW
Miller
Minott
Brown
Milton

They could use a elite shooter who can run the floor with them, hitting those open 3s. Use that five FRPs picks, use expiring Bertans contract to get such player.