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Post#681 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:35 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Jaylen Brown is under contract with the Boston Celtics for next year period.

I'm talking about next summer.

And this season could be a nightmare for us if we've got a star player who's unhappy and disgruntled because we weren't able to get a deal done that would have made him the richest player in NBA history.

Welcome to the NBA!

It will never get to next summer.

Probably not. Which is why (if JB is traded) we might have to settle for a deal that is perceived to be less than market value for him, which is better than losing him for nothing next summer - like I said..

A deal like Siakam, or a deal like Hunter + Bogie..
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Post#682 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:37 pm

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I’ve seen too many players delay the bag and never get it. That’s in my opinion a much bigger risk than playing for Charlotte.

Also assuming you’re right, shouldn’t he be hammering it out with Brad. Travel afterwards?

Hate to break it to you but they have until mid October to get a deal done.


You don’t worry I guess lol. I worry too much.

You’re not wrong in saying they have plenty of time. But I still think there’s flaws in waiting.

Why worry? None of us control anything but ourselves.
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Post#683 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:38 pm



Woj reports on Jaylen at 3:45 of the video
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Post#684 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:41 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Hate to break it to you but they have until mid October to get a deal done.

But if it's gonna happen, it makes the most sense for JB and for the Celtics to get it done right away (like what happened with Lamelo, Haliburton, Edwards and Bane's extensions)

-JB secures the bag ASAP, leaving nothing to chance.
-The Celtics get it done ASAP, which allows them to have a better understanding of what moves they should make for the rest of the offseason, how much $ they have to spend on those moves, etc. It's very hard to navigate offseason moves with this JB cloud hanging over Brad's head

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Jaylen Brown's contract situation has very little to do with moves this off-season as far as money wise. total BS. Did it stop Stevens from trading for Porzingis?

When Brad makes moves, he factors in the financial ramifications not just for this season but future seasons as well.

No, of course it didn't stop Brad from trading for KP. Brad made that move simply because it made us a better team. But he also may have made that move knowing that things could go south with JB and if we end up having to trade JB and aren't able to get a star player in return, we at least are getting a guy (KP) who could be a #2 option on a championship team.

Having the JB contract situation unresolved obviously doesn't *prevent* brad from making any moves. But it would make Brad's life a heck of a lot easier - he'd be able to navigate the offseason moves easier and more confidently if the JB situation was resolved sooner rather than later.
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Post#685 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:47 pm

The Jaylen situation just gets weirder by the day.
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Post#686 » by Celtics_Champs » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:48 pm

For the record, I’m not trying to show any which way I think is going to happen. If I had to guess, Jaylen signs it.

But I just believe Jaylen is as weird of a cat as they come. When it’s Tatums time he will sign at 12:01 and be in Cancun after enjoying the money, I’ll wager one hundred dollars on that. If I lose I’ll ask Jaylen to pay my debt because he clearly don’t care about money as much as me :lol:
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Post#687 » by sam_I_am » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:49 pm

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MaxwellSmart wrote:I dunno, shouldn't Jaylen be working on his dribbling instead of traveling all over the world?



He dont care.

Obviously.

He wants to score points, get paud and leave.

He has no desire to be an alltime great


They don’t have pavement or courts overseas?
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#688 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:51 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:For the record, I’m not trying to show any which way I think is going to happen. If I had to guess, Jaylen signs it.

But I just believe Jaylen is as weird of a cat as they come. When it’s Tatums time he will sign at 12:01 and be in Cancun after enjoying the money, I’ll wager one hundred dollars on that. If I lose I’ll ask Jaylen to pay my debt because he clearly don’t care about money as much as me :lol:

Tatum got maximum money and a final year player option. Who wouldn't sign that at 12:01?

Celtics are not offering the same thing to Jaylen Brown I would suspect.
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Post#689 » by Hal14 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:52 pm

Not sure how exactly/if the money works on these. But a couple of JB trade ideas Iw as just kicking around..

Trade A
Celtics get Dame
Lakers get JB
Blazers get assets from Lakers (perhaps a package like Reaves + maybe Russell + maybe Vanderbilt + picks)

I can see the Lakers saying "let's go for 1 more shot at winning a ring with LeBron. They might like the idea of a LeBron/AD/JB trio. And JB will know that a) LA is a big market for his brand, where he can sell his clothes and stuff and b) when lebron retires (and AD will soon be washed) it will be HIS team

Trade B
Celtics get: Bogie and Hunter
Hawks get: JB

If Hawks get JB, they would have a big logjam at wing, with JB, Bogie, Hunter, Bey, Griffin. Plus you'll often times have Murray at the 2, when he's out there with Trae which means less mins for those wings. Which means they are cool with giving us Bogie and Hunter

Celtics do it if they feel like they won't be able to get a star back for JB (and they might not want to pay another star player tons of money with Porzingis here and JT's supermax coming next year) so they add 2 good role players. Hunter slots in to the starting lineup (Hunter and JB on the wings, we would overwhelm teams with our size/length) and Bogie off the bench as a really good bench scoring weapon. Rob or Al, Brogdon and Bogie. Now THAT's a bench !

Again, not sure how exactly/if the $ works on these. Other pieces/picks would probably have to be added..maybe to make the $ work we add Champagnie to 1 (or both) of the deals, and then the team getting Champagnie just waives him right after (they took him in the deal just so the $ would work). And that way, we're able to get *something* for Champagnie, rather than just waiving him ourselves and getting nothing..
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Post#690 » by bisme37 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:55 pm

On one hand I'm annoyed by the JB thing. It's like if I won the Powerball lottery and just stuck the winning ticket in my junk drawer for a rainy day lol.

On the other hand I think our own impatience as fans is making this seem like a problem when it really isn't. They have plenty of time to hash out the details and get it done. There's really no obligation to do it at this very moment aside from appeasing fans and media who have nothing else to talk and worry about.
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Post#691 » by zoyathedestroya » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:57 pm

JB got dicked around with the KD rumors last offseason. It's only fitting he makes Brad wait.

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Post#692 » by Celtics_Champs » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:59 pm

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Celtics_Champs wrote:For the record, I’m not trying to show any which way I think is going to happen. If I had to guess, Jaylen signs it.

But I just believe Jaylen is as weird of a cat as they come. When it’s Tatums time he will sign at 12:01 and be in Cancun after enjoying the money, I’ll wager one hundred dollars on that. If I lose I’ll ask Jaylen to pay my debt because he clearly don’t care about money as much as me :lol:

Tatum got maximum money and a final year player option. Who wouldn't sign that at 12:01?

Celtics are not offering the same thing to Jaylen Brown I would suspect.


I see your point, but I’m shook we (and the board) are split on this.

The word “Pause” doesn’t mean he’s traded for Siakim. But it’s not something you see often and does cause a lot of people to question it. That’s all I’m doing.

We saw IT and Danny delay and delay until he got hurt and was eventually dealt for an upgrade. IT never saw close to the money he was going to get if he just simply hammered it out with Ainge.
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Post#693 » by 165bows » Fri Jul 14, 2023 7:59 pm

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Celtics_Champs wrote:For the record, I’m not trying to show any which way I think is going to happen. If I had to guess, Jaylen signs it.

But I just believe Jaylen is as weird of a cat as they come. When it’s Tatums time he will sign at 12:01 and be in Cancun after enjoying the money, I’ll wager one hundred dollars on that. If I lose I’ll ask Jaylen to pay my debt because he clearly don’t care about money as much as me :lol:

Tatum got maximum money and a final year player option. Who wouldn't sign that at 12:01?

Celtics are not offering the same thing to Jaylen Brown I would suspect.

Yeah Brad’s not some helpless actor in this lol.
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Post#694 » by GoCeltics123 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:00 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:JB got dicked around with the KD rumors last offseason. It's only fitting he makes Brad wait.

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He's going to sign it one minute before the deadline isn't he :lol:
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Post#695 » by Celtics_Champs » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:01 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:JB got dicked around with the KD rumors last offseason. It's only fitting he makes Brad wait.

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Woj is reporting Jaylen wants brad to fly him in on a jet to Cape Cod to meet with Brady, Crowder and Olynk.
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Post#696 » by 165bows » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:01 pm

Celtics_Champs wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Celtics_Champs wrote:For the record, I’m not trying to show any which way I think is going to happen. If I had to guess, Jaylen signs it.

But I just believe Jaylen is as weird of a cat as they come. When it’s Tatums time he will sign at 12:01 and be in Cancun after enjoying the money, I’ll wager one hundred dollars on that. If I lose I’ll ask Jaylen to pay my debt because he clearly don’t care about money as much as me :lol:

Tatum got maximum money and a final year player option. Who wouldn't sign that at 12:01?

Celtics are not offering the same thing to Jaylen Brown I would suspect.


I see your point, but I’m shook we (and the board) are split on this.

The word “Pause” doesn’t mean he’s traded for Siakim. But it’s not something you see often and does cause a lot of people to question it. That’s all I’m doing.

We saw IT and Danny delay and delay until he got hurt and was eventually dealt for an upgrade. IT never saw close to the money he was going to get if he just simply hammered it out with Ainge.

Jaylen’s the one prominent guy without a shoe deal, it’s no surprise he’s particular about this.
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Post#697 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:02 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:
Celtics_Champs wrote:For the record, I’m not trying to show any which way I think is going to happen. If I had to guess, Jaylen signs it.

But I just believe Jaylen is as weird of a cat as they come. When it’s Tatums time he will sign at 12:01 and be in Cancun after enjoying the money, I’ll wager one hundred dollars on that. If I lose I’ll ask Jaylen to pay my debt because he clearly don’t care about money as much as me :lol:

Tatum got maximum money and a final year player option. Who wouldn't sign that at 12:01?

Celtics are not offering the same thing to Jaylen Brown I would suspect.


I see your point, but I’m shook we (and the board) are split on this.

The word “Pause” doesn’t mean he’s traded for Siakim. But it’s not something you see often and does cause a lot of people to question it. That’s all I’m doing.

We saw IT and Danny delay and delay until he got hurt and was eventually dealt for an upgrade. IT never saw close to the money he was going to get if he just simply hammered it out with Ainge.

It's the off-season in the NBA. NBA is all about drama. Just look at Dame, Harden, Irving, JB etc. right now. Next year it will probably be Durant again.
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Post#698 » by Celts17Pride » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:03 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:JB got dicked around with the KD rumors last offseason. It's only fitting he makes Brad wait.

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Woj is reporting Jaylen wants brad to fly him in on a jet to Cape Cod to meet with Brady, Crowder and Olynk.

That's funny :lol:
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Post#699 » by bisme37 » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:03 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:JB got dicked around with the KD rumors last offseason. It's only fitting he makes Brad wait.

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He probably read the Jaylen Brown thread on RGM and decided to make us sweat for a while lol.
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Post#700 » by Celtics_Champs » Fri Jul 14, 2023 8:09 pm

165bows wrote:Jaylen’s the one prominent guy without a shoe deal, it’s no surprise he’s particular about this.


Well that’s very true. He’s a funky dude for sure. You know he keeps receipts.

I hope we don’t trade him because if we do and he wins, he’s going to do what Bruce Cassidy did times ten.

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