Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0

[Eyeamok]

There's also the question of how much tax Boston wants to pay. Signing Brown to that monstrosity virtually guarantees 5 straight years in the tax.

Good times.

[Kobblehead]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Damned if you do.

$60m contract for your star's co-star is all kinds of weird. You can sign like 3 strong starters to build around your star for that price.

[Arsenal]

It's pretty dangerous to let an UFA hit the market, no? This isn't a scenario where they can just match a competitive offer.

It's even more dangerous to be locked into $60M/yr for 5 years to a guy who isn't close to worth it.

[Eyeamok]

So it's reported that the Suns are interested in trading for TJ McConnell. I can't recall the last time I saw a report saying that Ben Simmons or Markel Fultz was being sought by any team. Yes I understand that McConnell is only a 8 + million dollar player, but it's pretty Ironic. McConnell the least talented of the 3 has never stopped working to improve. Good for him.

[76ciology]

Im not a cap expert.

But can’t Boston just trade Rob Williams or Al Horford for cap space next offseason? Where they’d be around where Pels or Sixers are right now at 170M (130+50-10)

Then let Brogdon and Derrick White walk in 2025 offseason. I think Pritchard replaces one of them.

[76ciology]

So it's reported that the Suns are interested in trading for TJ McConnell. I can't recall the last time I saw a report saying that Ben Simmons or Markel Fultz was being sought by any team. Yes I understand that McConnell is only a 8 + million dollar player, but it's pretty Ironic. McConnell the least talented of the 3 has never stopped working to improve. Good for him.

McConnell is rare in today’s NBA. Smart, plays the right way, effective, knows his role and plays hard every minute. He can rack up the stat sheet (13ppg 8.8apg with good %) when you give him minutes.

For Ben and Fultz? They’re still trying to live up to their draft expectations.
For Fultz, I can’t blame him.
For Ben, he’s delusional.

[mjkvol]

So they’re supposed to not sign Brown? Then what?

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

True. But I mean, they’ve gone deep in the playoffs including a Finals birth just about every year with that core. Don’t really see another realistic option.

I get the idea that they are almost forced to sign him because they have gone all-in on building around this pair, but it is this kind of move that generally signals the beginning of the end for a group.

Now more than ever, it is imperative to win before your core ages and you have to pay these crazy salaries - MIL is a classic example of a team that got their chip at the perfect time. The Celtics had really good shots for the last few seasons and didn't get it done, and now their depth will begin to be eroded. I can honestly see a step back in 2023 for them.

[Iverson Armband]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

True. But I mean, they’ve gone deep in the playoffs including a Finals birth just about every year with that core. Don’t really see another realistic option.

I get the idea that they are almost forced to sign him because they have gone all-in on building around this pair, but it is this kind of move that generally signals the beginning of the end for a group.

Now more than ever, it is imperative to win before your core ages and you have to pay these crazy salaries - MIL is a classic example of a team that got their chip at the perfect time. The Celtics had really good shots for the last few seasons and didn't get it done, and now their depth will begin to be eroded. I can honestly see a step back in 2023 for them.

Here’s the thing. Let’s say the team doesn’t get past the second round again and Maxey has a year similar to the one he just had. Are you going to say he’s not worth a 5/200M extension he’ll likely command?

[Warfelg]

I don’t see how you can commit $60mil to a costar who struggles to dribble at times.

Then again, I have a history of railing against the NBA’s salary structure. Teams are held hostage by the low soft cap and inability to replace lost players. It’s silly when most the league understands that in a majority of cases you are better off operating as a team over the cap than under the cap.

Might as well make the 2nd threshold the hard cap and the soft cap a salary floor and do away with all of these exemptions. The league would be better off for it. Especially if teams can feel comfortable letting a guy who will make potentially $60mil walk and replace him with 4 guys in the $15-20mil range.


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[the_process]

I don’t see how you can commit $60mil to a costar who struggles to dribble at times.

Then again, I have a history of railing against the NBA’s salary structure. Teams are held hostage by the low soft cap and inability to replace lost players. It’s silly when most the league understands that in a majority of cases you are better off operating as a team over the cap than under the cap.

Might as well make the 2nd threshold the hard cap and the soft cap a salary floor and do away with all of these exemptions. The league would be better off for it. Especially if teams can feel comfortable letting a guy who will make potentially $60mil walk and replace him with 4 guys in the $15-20mil range.


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Sure, except the players union will never agree to that.

[Mik317]

Brown has won them playoff series.

you "overpay" him for that alone.

[Iverson Armband]

Brown has won them playoff series.

you "overpay" him for that alone.

Agreed. I want to hear the tune when Maxey is due for a 200M+ extension for a team that can’t get out the second round.

[Negrodamus]

Damn, hope Bronny is okay. Very scary.

[ProcessDoctor]

Brown has won them playoff series.

you "overpay" him for that alone.

Agreed. I want to hear the tune when Maxey is due for a 200M+ extension for a team that can’t get out the second round.

Everyone loves kid Maxey now. Just wait until he's getting Tobias Harris money...

[GoSixersBro]

Brown has won them playoff series.

you "overpay" him for that alone.

Agreed. I want to hear the tune when Maxey is due for a 200M+ extension for a team that can’t get out the second round.

Everyone loves kid Maxey now. Just wait until he's getting Tobias Harris money...

The difference is Maxey is making leaps each season and is only 22 years old. We can only hope his first big contract is justified by even more progression.

When Harris was given his ludicrous deal, he was 28 years old. It was a safe bet to say the writing was on the wall. The ceiling was realized if you followed TH's career. Not many players make the jump in talent/ability from 28-31 as compared to from 22 to 25.

I really like Maxey, but I know what his game lacks. However, I'm already more enamored with his ability compared to the TH who was passed around the league and on his 3rd team by age 23. Maxey has already showed the guts on offense not only during the RS but also the playoffs. The fear we see in TH's game isn't in Maxey's IMO.

[ProcessDoctor]

Agreed. I want to hear the tune when Maxey is due for a 200M+ extension for a team that can’t get out the second round.

Everyone loves kid Maxey now. Just wait until he's getting Tobias Harris money...

The difference is Maxey is making leaps each season and is only 22 years old. We can only hope his first big contract is justified by even more progression.

When Harris was given his ludicrous deal, he was 28 years old. It was a safe bet to say the writing was on the wall. The ceiling was realized if you followed TH's career. Not many players make the jump in talent/ability from 28-31 as compared to from 22 to 25.

I really like Maxey, but I know what his game lacks. However, I'm already more enamored with his ability compared to the TH who was passed around the league and on his 3rd team by age 23. Maxey has already showed the guts on offense not only during the RS but also the playoffs. The fear we see in TH's game isn't in Maxey's IMO.

Oh I think Maxey will be better than Tobias. I just think he’ll have so much more pressure and scrutiny when he’s making $40 mil per year. Like dude has to be Jamal Murray or Devin Booker in the playoffs or else our fans are gonna eat him alive.

[the_process]

Everyone loves kid Maxey now. Just wait until he's getting Tobias Harris money...

The difference is Maxey is making leaps each season and is only 22 years old. We can only hope his first big contract is justified by even more progression.

When Harris was given his ludicrous deal, he was 28 years old. It was a safe bet to say the writing was on the wall. The ceiling was realized if you followed TH's career. Not many players make the jump in talent/ability from 28-31 as compared to from 22 to 25.

I really like Maxey, but I know what his game lacks. However, I'm already more enamored with his ability compared to the TH who was passed around the league and on his 3rd team by age 23. Maxey has already showed the guts on offense not only during the RS but also the playoffs. The fear we see in TH's game isn't in Maxey's IMO.

Oh I think Maxey will be better than Tobias. I just think he’ll have so much more pressure and scrutiny when he’s making $40 mil per year. Like dude has to be Jamal Murray or Devin Booker in the playoffs or else our fans are gonna eat him alive.

100% this.

[Stanford]

he’ll have so much more pressure and scrutiny when he’s making $40 mil per year. Like dude has to be Jamal Murray or Devin Booker in the playoffs or else our fans are gonna eat him alive.

He can handle it.

[mjkvol]

True. But I mean, they’ve gone deep in the playoffs including a Finals birth just about every year with that core. Don’t really see another realistic option.

I get the idea that they are almost forced to sign him because they have gone all-in on building around this pair, but it is this kind of move that generally signals the beginning of the end for a group.

Now more than ever, it is imperative to win before your core ages and you have to pay these crazy salaries - MIL is a classic example of a team that got their chip at the perfect time. The Celtics had really good shots for the last few seasons and didn't get it done, and now their depth will begin to be eroded. I can honestly see a step back in 2023 for them.

Here’s the thing. Let’s say the team doesn’t get past the second round again and Maxey has a year similar to the one he just had. Are you going to say he’s not worth a 5/200M extension he’ll likely command?

If he has a year similar to this one, with no shot creating improvement? No, then he isn't worth that kind of money, but he'll get it somewhere, probably here. The main things he has in his favor are his age and health.

[Kobblehead]

Trade Tatum then. It makes no sense to keep both of them in the new CBA.