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Re: Official Spec Thread: Off-season Edition - The Draft 

Post#781 » by SOUL » Wed Aug 2, 2023 9:28 am

pepe1991 wrote:Weren't NBA teams donating to BLM to find out Patrisse Cullors was using that money to buy herself house and did withdrawal of money by paying own brothers for "security and intelectual services" while in same time supporting crime /looting? :lol:


https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/510894-nba-team-owners-to-donate-300-million-to-black/

Not exactly. Setting up a foundation with money going to charities and HBCUs to help with economic growth, opportunities, educations in inner cities, etc. Not donating to BLM itself.

It's also not a political statement at its core. The original support was because of what most people left or right could agree was the use of excessive force on an unarmed person - the protests would've happened if the cop was Republican, Democrat, or Independent.

pepe1991 wrote:Once you tangle yourself into political BS it becomes two way steet.


Most sports leagues are apolitical - it's all for $$$. NBA has $10 billion invested in China.. the same reason why most politicians are the same way. The Saudis, China, Russia, Ukraine, even America and things like the Iraq War.. people are always going to turn a blind eye to injustice elsewhere if it means being in decent standing with a country that you benefit from.

It's the players who really decide where to be politically conscientious or not - and many of them are mainly focused on domestic issues that affect their own ethnicity, which isn't a huge shocker.

Regardless, donating from your team is still stupid as hell. In the end it may not do any damage, but it doesn't help, and only could turn players off.. and that's whether your owner is left-leaning with a team full of conservatives or whether he's right-leaning with more liberals.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Off-season Edition - The Draft 

Post#782 » by JT3000 » Wed Aug 2, 2023 10:10 am

davey_wavy wrote:
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What if Disney wants Ron to be President so he can leave Fl and leave them alone.
Certainly makes sense in the current landscape to go politically for the right, especially when it comes to taxes and economy.


Ignoring the fact that DeSantis has zero chance of winning, even if he somehow did, it would only broaden the scope of his unconstitutional political targeting. It would in no way get him off Disney's back. So they realistically have nothing to gain from this. It only makes them look stupid, sponsoring an entity that openly donates to a politician they are in the midst of a heated legal battle with. If I were Disney, I would revoke the sponsorship ASAP.

And I've become well aware over time that this forum is populated largely by out-of-towners with little knowledge of Orlando's local political landscape ("It's Florida, they must all be conservatives, right?"), but for anyone who needs reminding, Orlando & Orange County as a whole by-and-large do not "go for the right" politically. We've collectively said "no thanks" to DeSantis already, who has only pissed us off more substantially in the time since by trying to stick us all with Disney's bill after screwing their tax situation out of sheer spite, among numerous other transgressions. So all they are doing by making this donation in the organization's name is alienating their own customer base while giving money to a guaranteed loser.

Many Orlando residents already know full well who owns the team (and how bad they are at it), which makes supporting them enough of an ask even without these extra hijinks, but this is really pushing it. At this rate we may not see the team's attendance or viewership improve even if the team itself finally does, and they'll only have themselves to blame.


I would be thrilled to see Disney pull their sponsorship. Never liked their name on our jerseys to begin with, Its always felt cheesey and gimmicky. Plus, Disney is political in its own sense and I don't want my team attached to their views.

I grew up on Orange Ave. All my family still live there. You have a good mix of red and blue (mostly blue). Man, no one is talking about Desantis, Biden, Trump, etc. If your from Orlando you should know true locals don't get wrapped up in this junk and tend to operate as usual. Especially Magic fans, you really think this is going to stop people from showing up to Amway? Real magic fans don't care, tourists won't care, and casual fans with free tickets and beer vouchers ... they don't care.

Nothing happens from this. You are sensationalizing the hell out of it


I don't know what your idea of a "true local" is, but Orlandoans certainly aren't politically agnostic. They care about important issues just as much as anyone else, particularly ones affecting them. Everything DeSantis does affects us. So yes, we care. You might think I'm sensationalizing, but I guess we're going to find out. However, I don't need to predict that the "real Magic fans" (as fairweather a fanbase as you'll find) will stop showing up to Amway. Most already stopped showing up over the last ten years. :lol:
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Off-season Edition - The Draft 

Post#783 » by drsd » Wed Aug 2, 2023 10:23 am

tiderulz wrote:i've always like Josh Hart, but the rumored 4 years $75 mil shows that salaries are increasing across the board. or at least the way the Knicks are spending (which is no surprise)


19M a year for a 10/4/6 player. Hmm.

If this is the going rate for a decent, starting wing, wow. Is there really a difference of Saddiq Bey to Hart.

Thank goodness in all that is kind, full with fluffy flying unicorns, that Orlando has F-Wagner as the starting SF.


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Re: Official Spec Thread: Off-season Edition - The Draft 

Post#784 » by basketballRob » Wed Aug 2, 2023 11:46 am

What the Devos family is doing shows they could care less how Magic fans feel.

I'm a little leary of the Michigan thing, too. Also, if they give JI another extension at the end of this season, it'll look suspicious.



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Re: Official Spec Thread: Off-season Edition - The Draft 

Post#785 » by pepe1991 » Wed Aug 2, 2023 12:09 pm

SOUL wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Weren't NBA teams donating to BLM to find out Patrisse Cullors was using that money to buy herself house and did withdrawal of money by paying own brothers for "security and intelectual services" while in same time supporting crime /looting? :lol:


https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/510894-nba-team-owners-to-donate-300-million-to-black/

Not exactly. Setting up a foundation with money going to charities and HBCUs to help with economic growth, opportunities, educations in inner cities, etc. Not donating to BLM itself.

It's also not a political statement at its core. The original support was because of what most people left or right could agree was the use of excessive force on an unarmed person - the protests would've happened if the cop was Republican, Democrat, or Independent.

pepe1991 wrote:Once you tangle yourself into political BS it becomes two way steet.


Most sports leagues are apolitical - it's all for $$$. NBA has $10 billion invested in China.. the same reason why most politicians are the same way. The Saudis, China, Russia, Ukraine, even America and things like the Iraq War.. people are always going to turn a blind eye to injustice elsewhere if it means being in decent standing with a country that you benefit from.

It's the players who really decide where to be politically conscientious or not - and many of them are mainly focused on domestic issues that affect their own ethnicity, which isn't a huge shocker.

Regardless, donating from your team is still stupid as hell. In the end it may not do any damage, but it doesn't help, and only could turn players off.. and that's whether your owner is left-leaning with a team full of conservatives or whether he's right-leaning with more liberals.


In other words: players are willing to do virtue signaling as long as it helps them. Shocking.

In moment you put your Nike shirt on and decide to run your mouth about injustice you are either dumb or hyporcirte . In player's case, mostly both.

We all know that time it ticking on Saudic Arabia basketball crossover when stars elect to not play in NBA because it's simply more lucrative to play for TeamOil and living in some Riyadh than bother with "Western world" that stopped being all that modern in terms of quality of living long time ago.

It would be very interesting to know how much nba was payed by Abu Dhabi sheiks to sign agreement they signed in 2021.


It's just bunch of BS and people get offended by nothing. If you watch sports and are now "offended" by team paying off some candidate some money, tough luck, your team/owner was doing it for as long as team exists, you just elected to be blind to a fact and now you are outraged because ...Reasons.
But here i am ,reading on reddit how Desanotis is "facist" , "racist"...I'm not sure most of posters actually understand what facist is. Well, when i see how many of them are painting- comunism in pink, i'm pretty sure non of them has IQ over 75. ( good luck selling socialism to any former Yugoslavian citizen without getting nutshot)
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Off-season Edition - The Draft 

Post#786 » by GGforever » Wed Aug 2, 2023 1:00 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
SOUL wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Weren't NBA teams donating to BLM to find out Patrisse Cullors was using that money to buy herself house and did withdrawal of money by paying own brothers for "security and intelectual services" while in same time supporting crime /looting? :lol:


https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/510894-nba-team-owners-to-donate-300-million-to-black/

Not exactly. Setting up a foundation with money going to charities and HBCUs to help with economic growth, opportunities, educations in inner cities, etc. Not donating to BLM itself.

It's also not a political statement at its core. The original support was because of what most people left or right could agree was the use of excessive force on an unarmed person - the protests would've happened if the cop was Republican, Democrat, or Independent.

pepe1991 wrote:Once you tangle yourself into political BS it becomes two way steet.


Most sports leagues are apolitical - it's all for $$$. NBA has $10 billion invested in China.. the same reason why most politicians are the same way. The Saudis, China, Russia, Ukraine, even America and things like the Iraq War.. people are always going to turn a blind eye to injustice elsewhere if it means being in decent standing with a country that you benefit from.

It's the players who really decide where to be politically conscientious or not - and many of them are mainly focused on domestic issues that affect their own ethnicity, which isn't a huge shocker.

Regardless, donating from your team is still stupid as hell. In the end it may not do any damage, but it doesn't help, and only could turn players off.. and that's whether your owner is left-leaning with a team full of conservatives or whether he's right-leaning with more liberals.


In other words: players are willing to do virtue signaling as long as it helps them. Shocking.

In moment you put your Nike shirt on and decide to run your mouth about injustice you are either dumb or hyporcirte . In player's case, mostly both.

We all know that time it ticking on Saudic Arabia basketball crossover when stars elect to not play in NBA because it's simply more lucrative to play for TeamOil and living in some Riyadh than bother with "Western world" that stopped being all that modern in terms of quality of living long time ago.

It would be very interesting to know how much nba was payed by Abu Dhabi sheiks to sign agreement they signed in 2021.


It's just bunch of BS and people get offended by nothing. If you watch sports and are now "offended" by team paying off some candidate some money, tough luck, your team/owner was doing it for as long as team exists, you just elected to be blind to a fact and now you are outraged because ...Reasons.
But here i am ,reading on reddit how Desanotis is "facist" , "racist"...I'm not sure most of posters actually understand what facist is. Well, when i see how many of them are painting- comunism in pink, i'm pretty sure non of them has IQ over 75. ( good luck selling socialism to any former Yugoslavian citizen without getting nutshot)


Great post. Much prefer your non Magic takes lol.
To your facist point- imagine if Desantis was locking up his biggest political opponent. That seems to be the new trend here in soon to be 3rd world America.
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Post#787 » by SOUL » Wed Aug 2, 2023 1:17 pm

You're still missing my point though. People of any kind are inherently going to be biased/hypocritical.. that is the human condition. Of course they will be more inclined to speak out against something that affects people of their ethnicity in their country versus speaking out against every single injustice to minorities in every country, ESPECIALLY when it affects their bottom line.

I don't know what DeSantis is really - but his own party has called him out over his views on slavery ("skill developing") and no matter what people think about Disney, playing chicken with them is not good for Orlando, at all. It could actually **** over the city badly and that not only affects the residents but also the Magic .. all to "own the other side".

What people from both sides of the political spectrum whine about are a lot of the same things - incessant complaining about "snowflakes" from the right have turned into them whining about people being too woke now and now they're being overly sensitive about everything from the Barbie movie to the "War on Christmas" - basically the political equivalent of 1 negative Twitter comment that gets blown up and portrayed as some huge affront when there is no real controversy. It's fearmongering. Both sides do it. You can initially be right about the left being too sensitive.. while then becoming too sensitive yourself.

Democrats are pro-war when it comes to Ukraine but were anti-Iraq War (comparatively), now Republicans have become anti-war.. it's just a cat and mouse game. Even vaccines became politicized. 20 years ago there were a lot of studies taken where Democrats and Republicans were only about 2% apart in a lot of areas when it came to vaccine positive/negative opinions - Libertarians were actually the party that had the most vaccine hesitancy. It wasn't until recently there has been a bigger gap. Most people just fall in line to go against what the other party is in "favor" of because nobody actually has their own brain anymore.

It's very clear posting on these very forums how the political brain rot affects people. It's sad how nobody can work together to actually create a pathway to any sort of common ground to make a lot of things easier for people, but that's what has happened when people treat it like sports teams and can't see how ridiculous things are.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Off-season Edition - The Draft 

Post#788 » by basketballRob » Wed Aug 2, 2023 1:19 pm

GGforever wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
SOUL wrote:
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/diversity-inclusion/510894-nba-team-owners-to-donate-300-million-to-black/

Not exactly. Setting up a foundation with money going to charities and HBCUs to help with economic growth, opportunities, educations in inner cities, etc. Not donating to BLM itself.

It's also not a political statement at its core. The original support was because of what most people left or right could agree was the use of excessive force on an unarmed person - the protests would've happened if the cop was Republican, Democrat, or Independent.



Most sports leagues are apolitical - it's all for $$$. NBA has $10 billion invested in China.. the same reason why most politicians are the same way. The Saudis, China, Russia, Ukraine, even America and things like the Iraq War.. people are always going to turn a blind eye to injustice elsewhere if it means being in decent standing with a country that you benefit from.

It's the players who really decide where to be politically conscientious or not - and many of them are mainly focused on domestic issues that affect their own ethnicity, which isn't a huge shocker.

Regardless, donating from your team is still stupid as hell. In the end it may not do any damage, but it doesn't help, and only could turn players off.. and that's whether your owner is left-leaning with a team full of conservatives or whether he's right-leaning with more liberals.


In other words: players are willing to do virtue signaling as long as it helps them. Shocking.

In moment you put your Nike shirt on and decide to run your mouth about injustice you are either dumb or hyporcirte . In player's case, mostly both.

We all know that time it ticking on Saudic Arabia basketball crossover when stars elect to not play in NBA because it's simply more lucrative to play for TeamOil and living in some Riyadh than bother with "Western world" that stopped being all that modern in terms of quality of living long time ago.

It would be very interesting to know how much nba was payed by Abu Dhabi sheiks to sign agreement they signed in 2021.


It's just bunch of BS and people get offended by nothing. If you watch sports and are now "offended" by team paying off some candidate some money, tough luck, your team/owner was doing it for as long as team exists, you just elected to be blind to a fact and now you are outraged because ...Reasons.
But here i am ,reading on reddit how Desanotis is "facist" , "racist"...I'm not sure most of posters actually understand what facist is. Well, when i see how many of them are painting- comunism in pink, i'm pretty sure non of them has IQ over 75. ( good luck selling socialism to any former Yugoslavian citizen without getting nutshot)


Great post. Much prefer your non Magic takes lol.
To your facist point- imagine if Desantis was locking up his biggest political opponent. That seems to be the new trend here in soon to be 3rd world America.
Imagine a Democrat trying to conspire an insurrection. Would that be okay?

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Post#789 » by SOUL » Wed Aug 2, 2023 1:21 pm

Anyway, I'll allow the discussion to continue if it's centered around Orlando/DeSantis/DeVos but otherwise a lot of this is probably better in the CA board if it just becomes a pissing match with low quality posts that stray away from it more.
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Post#790 » by davey_wavy » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:17 pm

JT3000 wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:
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Ignoring the fact that DeSantis has zero chance of winning, even if he somehow did, it would only broaden the scope of his unconstitutional political targeting. It would in no way get him off Disney's back. So they realistically have nothing to gain from this. It only makes them look stupid, sponsoring an entity that openly donates to a politician they are in the midst of a heated legal battle with. If I were Disney, I would revoke the sponsorship ASAP.

And I've become well aware over time that this forum is populated largely by out-of-towners with little knowledge of Orlando's local political landscape ("It's Florida, they must all be conservatives, right?"), but for anyone who needs reminding, Orlando & Orange County as a whole by-and-large do not "go for the right" politically. We've collectively said "no thanks" to DeSantis already, who has only pissed us off more substantially in the time since by trying to stick us all with Disney's bill after screwing their tax situation out of sheer spite, among numerous other transgressions. So all they are doing by making this donation in the organization's name is alienating their own customer base while giving money to a guaranteed loser.

Many Orlando residents already know full well who owns the team (and how bad they are at it), which makes supporting them enough of an ask even without these extra hijinks, but this is really pushing it. At this rate we may not see the team's attendance or viewership improve even if the team itself finally does, and they'll only have themselves to blame.


I would be thrilled to see Disney pull their sponsorship. Never liked their name on our jerseys to begin with, Its always felt cheesey and gimmicky. Plus, Disney is political in its own sense and I don't want my team attached to their views.

I grew up on Orange Ave. All my family still live there. You have a good mix of red and blue (mostly blue). Man, no one is talking about Desantis, Biden, Trump, etc. If your from Orlando you should know true locals don't get wrapped up in this junk and tend to operate as usual. Especially Magic fans, you really think this is going to stop people from showing up to Amway? Real magic fans don't care, tourists won't care, and casual fans with free tickets and beer vouchers ... they don't care.

Nothing happens from this. You are sensationalizing the hell out of it


I don't know what your idea of a "true local" is, but Orlandoans certainly aren't politically agnostic. They care about important issues just as much as anyone else, particularly ones affecting them. Everything DeSantis does affects us. So yes, we care. You might think I'm sensationalizing, but I guess we're going to find out. However, I don't need to predict that the "real Magic fans" (as fairweather a fanbase as you'll find) will stop showing up to Amway. Most already stopped showing up over the last ten years. :lol:


Of course we care. Left side Orlandoans (even some rightys) might not like what DeSantis has been up to; but what I'm trying to say is the displeasure for him won't spill onto the Magic as our hometown NBA Franchise. Also, Let's also not pretend like Ron was blown out in Orlando. He won Seminole County (surely there's Magic fans there right?) and lost Orange by 7 points (to be expected, but outperformed expectations). Seems like there might be more love for Ron out there than you think.
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Post#791 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:43 pm

Sports are a getaway from political BS and most people won't care what goes on because at the end of the day we can't change it. If someone stops becoming a fan of the Magic, then so be it. If you dig hard enough there's enough political BS behind the scenes for every professional sports team.

People might hate the Browns for giving Watson that contract but then cheered and supported Big Ben or Ray Lewis or Tyreke Hill or Alvin Kamara etc etc. Can't and won't please everyone and if you dont have **** you money your opinion to them is worthless.
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Post#792 » by basketballRob » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:48 pm

davey_wavy wrote:
JT3000 wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:
I would be thrilled to see Disney pull their sponsorship. Never liked their name on our jerseys to begin with, Its always felt cheesey and gimmicky. Plus, Disney is political in its own sense and I don't want my team attached to their views.

I grew up on Orange Ave. All my family still live there. You have a good mix of red and blue (mostly blue). Man, no one is talking about Desantis, Biden, Trump, etc. If your from Orlando you should know true locals don't get wrapped up in this junk and tend to operate as usual. Especially Magic fans, you really think this is going to stop people from showing up to Amway? Real magic fans don't care, tourists won't care, and casual fans with free tickets and beer vouchers ... they don't care.

Nothing happens from this. You are sensationalizing the hell out of it


I don't know what your idea of a "true local" is, but Orlandoans certainly aren't politically agnostic. They care about important issues just as much as anyone else, particularly ones affecting them. Everything DeSantis does affects us. So yes, we care. You might think I'm sensationalizing, but I guess we're going to find out. However, I don't need to predict that the "real Magic fans" (as fairweather a fanbase as you'll find) will stop showing up to Amway. Most already stopped showing up over the last ten years.


Of course we care. Left side Orlandoans (even some rightys) might not like what DeSantis has been up to; but what I'm trying to say is the displeasure for him won't spill onto the Magic as our hometown NBA Franchise. Also, Let's also not pretend like Ron was blown out in Orlando. He won Seminole County (surely there's Magic fans there right?) and lost Orange by 7 points (to be expected, but outperformed expectations). Seems like there might be more love for Ron out there than you think.
I think his support may have taken a hit since people have gotten to know him in the last couple of months. He has no personality at all, and he's going way right while trying to run for president.

Hopefully, he's doing something about the dioxane in the water in Seminole County. Also, the inflation is way higher here now because truckers of color and immigrants don't want to come here.

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Post#793 » by davey_wavy » Wed Aug 2, 2023 3:15 pm

basketballRob wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:
JT3000 wrote:
I don't know what your idea of a "true local" is, but Orlandoans certainly aren't politically agnostic. They care about important issues just as much as anyone else, particularly ones affecting them. Everything DeSantis does affects us. So yes, we care. You might think I'm sensationalizing, but I guess we're going to find out. However, I don't need to predict that the "real Magic fans" (as fairweather a fanbase as you'll find) will stop showing up to Amway. Most already stopped showing up over the last ten years.


Of course we care. Left side Orlandoans (even some rightys) might not like what DeSantis has been up to; but what I'm trying to say is the displeasure for him won't spill onto the Magic as our hometown NBA Franchise. Also, Let's also not pretend like Ron was blown out in Orlando. He won Seminole County (surely there's Magic fans there right?) and lost Orange by 7 points (to be expected, but outperformed expectations). Seems like there might be more love for Ron out there than you think.
I think his support may have taken a hit since people have gotten to know him in the last couple of months. He has no personality at all, and he's going way right while trying to run for president.

Hopefully, he's doing something about the dioxane in the water in Seminole County. Also, the inflation is way higher here now because truckers of color and immigrants don't want to come here.

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I agree with you Rob. I like DeSantis, but I like him FAR LESS than I did months ago before he went nuts.. Don't know what happened to the guy. Went too far right I suppose.

At this point I'm probably going to write in pepe at the ballots. I'd feel good about that :lol:
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Re: Official Spec Thread: Off-season Edition - The Draft 

Post#794 » by GGforever » Wed Aug 2, 2023 3:40 pm

basketballRob wrote:
GGforever wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
In other words: players are willing to do virtue signaling as long as it helps them. Shocking.

In moment you put your Nike shirt on and decide to run your mouth about injustice you are either dumb or hyporcirte . In player's case, mostly both.

We all know that time it ticking on Saudic Arabia basketball crossover when stars elect to not play in NBA because it's simply more lucrative to play for TeamOil and living in some Riyadh than bother with "Western world" that stopped being all that modern in terms of quality of living long time ago.

It would be very interesting to know how much nba was payed by Abu Dhabi sheiks to sign agreement they signed in 2021.


It's just bunch of BS and people get offended by nothing. If you watch sports and are now "offended" by team paying off some candidate some money, tough luck, your team/owner was doing it for as long as team exists, you just elected to be blind to a fact and now you are outraged because ...Reasons.
But here i am ,reading on reddit how Desanotis is "facist" , "racist"...I'm not sure most of posters actually understand what facist is. Well, when i see how many of them are painting- comunism in pink, i'm pretty sure non of them has IQ over 75. ( good luck selling socialism to any former Yugoslavian citizen without getting nutshot)


Great post. Much prefer your non Magic takes lol.
To your facist point- imagine if Desantis was locking up his biggest political opponent. That seems to be the new trend here in soon to be 3rd world America.
Imagine a Democrat trying to conspire an insurrection. Would that be okay?

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Insurrection lol lol!
Maybe you should read the indictment from yesterday which has no charges anywhere in it for insurrection. Strictly for his speech is what they are charging… wild!
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Post#795 » by bigdogdylan5 » Wed Aug 2, 2023 3:49 pm

SOUL wrote:You're still missing my point though. People of any kind are inherently going to be biased/hypocritical.. that is the human condition. Of course they will be more inclined to speak out against something that affects people of their ethnicity in their country versus speaking out against every single injustice to minorities in every country, ESPECIALLY when it affects their bottom line.

I don't know what DeSantis is really - but his own party has called him out over his views on slavery ("skill developing") and no matter what people think about Disney, playing chicken with them is not good for Orlando, at all. It could actually **** over the city badly and that not only affects the residents but also the Magic .. all to "own the other side".

What people from both sides of the political spectrum whine about are a lot of the same things - incessant complaining about "snowflakes" from the right have turned into them whining about people being too woke now and now they're being overly sensitive about everything from the Barbie movie to the "War on Christmas" - basically the political equivalent of 1 negative Twitter comment that gets blown up and portrayed as some huge affront when there is no real controversy. It's fearmongering. Both sides do it. You can initially be right about the left being too sensitive.. while then becoming too sensitive yourself.

Democrats are pro-war when it comes to Ukraine but were anti-Iraq War (comparatively), now Republicans have become anti-war.. it's just a cat and mouse game. Even vaccines became politicized. 20 years ago there were a lot of studies taken where Democrats and Republicans were only about 2% apart in a lot of areas when it came to vaccine positive/negative opinions - Libertarians were actually the party that had the most vaccine hesitancy. It wasn't until recently there has been a bigger gap. Most people just fall in line to go against what the other party is in "favor" of because nobody actually has their own brain anymore.

It's very clear posting on these very forums how the political brain rot affects people. It's sad how nobody can work together to actually create a pathway to any sort of common ground to make a lot of things easier for people, but that's what has happened when people treat it like sports teams and can't see how ridiculous things are.

One of the best posts in my opinion. It’s scary how politics have evolved way beyond just people having disagreements of policy to pure hatred and vileness. It’s incredibly scary to me. I really don’t have problem with the donation because I expect this from them. That whole family are political animals I do wish they would hide it better like all the other owners. Well number 1 I wish they would sell but they won’t. I do not believe this will have a long term effect on FA. Most will just care about the money and the direct culture HC and maybe front office. Honestly our team seems quite tolerant because they get along well with Isaac from the outside.
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Post#796 » by basketballRob » Wed Aug 2, 2023 4:18 pm

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Great post. Much prefer your non Magic takes lol.
To your facist point- imagine if Desantis was locking up his biggest political opponent. That seems to be the new trend here in soon to be 3rd world America.
Imagine a Democrat trying to conspire an insurrection. Would that be okay?

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Insurrection lol lol!
Maybe you should read the indictment from yesterday which has no charges anywhere in it for insurrection. Strictly for his speech is what they are charging… wild!
It wasn't about his speech. It was him conspiring behind closed doors. If the Republicans don't regain the presidency, they won't be able to pardon the people that are being charged with conspiracy, and they'll likely get some prison time.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-indicted-jan-6-grand-jury-2020-election-rcna95199

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Post#797 » by eyriq » Wed Aug 2, 2023 5:13 pm

Catching up on pods, 6th man show talking about worst, probable, and best case scenario for the Magic.

I'm thinking

Best: 47 wins
Probable: 39 wins
Worst: 31 wins
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Post#798 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Wed Aug 2, 2023 6:33 pm

Not going to lie, I like ponytail Paolo. He needs to keep that hairstyle for FIBA and see how he does. I apparently am the only person that like Afro Paolo but he was bad in those games and the hairstyle was changed.

Is it weird that I (and I suspect many of you) know Paolo’s games specifically based on his hairstyle and leggings choice?
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Post#799 » by Skybox » Wed Aug 2, 2023 7:48 pm

Moderate this crap please...The Draft/Offseason thread.

Also, DeSantis sold us all out to the Insurance companies. He's a jackass. I'm done.
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Post#800 » by davey_wavy » Wed Aug 2, 2023 10:59 pm

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Not going to lie, I like ponytail Paolo. He needs to keep that hairstyle for FIBA and see how he does. I apparently am the only person that like Afro Paolo but he was bad in those games and the hairstyle was changed.

Is it weird that I (and I suspect many of you) know Paolo’s games specifically based on his hairstyle and leggings choice?


I noticed this as well. I think Ponytail Paolo w/headband would be clean. I prefer Afro Paolo because he looks more imposing in my opinion but he didn't play well like you mentioned.

Ideal Paolo for 23 - 24:

Pony with headband.

No arm accessories (PLEASE NO forearm wristband)

Equipped with leggings

Shorter shorts to display his massive tree trunk legs.

No more Pink shoes. Match the shoe with the legging.

When the sophomore slump hits, revert to Afro Paolo variant.

Also, Franz, please throw on a shooting sleeve for some flair.

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