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Post#101 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Fri Aug 11, 2023 5:53 pm

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Is it wrong that I have him thinking "what kind of basketball game is this"?
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Post#102 » by Los_29 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:01 pm

Hockey players have refused to wear LGBT themed jerseys because of “religious” beliefs. Has that happened in other sports as frequently as it has in hockey? Just seems like hockey hasn’t progressed as much as the other sports. Even something like fighting took way too long to phase out. It’s also the only sport in the world where its players can’t tolerate losing and resort to fighting and cheap shots towards the end of the game. It’s mainly comprised of adults that haven’t grown up yet. Lol. With that said I enjoy watching playoff hockey when the Leafs are in it.

Hockey has had a lot of serious issues come to light the past few years. Hopefully they take the necessary steps to prevent these issues from happening in the future. I am encouraged with some of the things they have been doing recently to try and bring more diversity to the sport. But the harsh reality is it’s a game of privilege and that is why you have an alarming number of players with fathers who played in the NHL.
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Post#103 » by ItsDanger » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:02 pm

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Is it wrong that I have him thinking "what kind of basketball game is this"?

He's looking for the best seats to get on TV more. Was a good promotion idea to get seats below the basket at Raps games.
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Post#104 » by GQStylin » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:05 pm

sbsat wrote:No one is saying the people who play hockey are inherently racist, but the entire system and culture (a by product of years and years) is exclusionary along the lines of race. Its also acceptable to do racist things, because when your in the system, no one knows any better.


Please show me PROOF of this to be true? You're taking some incidents of racism in hockey and painting the narrative that this is a widespread issue. I've said repeatedly that pretty much all these incidents of racism happened in the minor leagues and that no player in the NHL has been accused and proven to be saying anything racist on the ice during a game.

Also again I ask why aren't people like you making this same deep dive analysis of other sports like baseball, basketball and football who are also greatly lacking diversity especially Asian diversity. The NFL and NBA are mostly black and white players and baseball only has mostly Japanese and Korean imports with very few North American born Asian players in their league. Why aren't you spot lighting that lack of diversity the same way you're doing it for hockey?

Why is there lack of diversity in the league? Explain it. The immigrant population in Canada and the Northern States of the USA have wealth. You can no longer peg it to affordability. I also know people with young kids (coloured south asian) who say their kids were never made to feel they "fit in" when they tried hockey.


The answer is likely most minority kids either grow up having little interest in playing hockey to begin with and/or they have little interest in playing it at a high level the same reason why you don't find many minority kids playing in the NBA and NFL. Again you have BILLIONS of Asian people in the world and yet there's barely any playing in the NBA and NFL. Why is that? Are those sports not inclusive and racist as well? Or is the more drama free and simple answer is that Asian kids have no interest and/or aren't capable of reaching the highest levels of those sports because of not enough skill and/or not having the physical abilities to do so?

Go through the entire list of Olympic sports and you'll see plenty of events that are almost completely devoid of black athletes competing in them. Go through the list again and you'll see plenty of events that are almost completely devoid of Asian athletes. Does this mean that some sports are hugely racist towards black people and other sports are hugely racist towards Asian people or maybe, JUST MAYBE Asians and blacks have different preferences as to which sports they enjoy and are good at and want to pursue at a high level?

I guess to people like you, this is just rampant racism and intolerance at work that every sport isn't massively diverse while to me to me the above is a logical explanation as to why some sports are dominated by some race/ethnic groups and other sports are dominated by other race/ethnic groups with little to no racist/discrimination/intolerant aspect to it at all.

Lastly, I should say I grew up a leafs fan even though my parents could never afford to put me in hockey. My eyes were opened in my first year of university when my roomate (who played hockey in the OHL) exposed me to the racist underbelly of hockey. He would often make very insensitive jokes about black people and indians and when I would confront him he would say this is how we would talk in the locker room. Hes not racist, he just didn't know any better.


Back in the day before the SJW movement went into full crazy mode, making racial and insensitive jokes was often just that. IE banter between friends. If these people actually disliked some if not all minorities and mistreated them in everyday life then that would be a problem and a different story. Years ago simply making racial and offensive jokes among friends didn't make you racist. Tons of famous comedians in the 80s and 90s had plenty of racist and offensive jokes in their acts and no one took issue with it. It wasn't until the SJW movement really got going did comedians who it was long understood were allowed to push boundaries in what they could say were reigned in and mostly brought under control because a relative small number of people felt it was 'too offensive'.

Charles Barley probably said it best when he made it clear that while saying racist, intolerant and offensive things in public wasn't acceptable that he wouldn't ever stop doing so among his own friends and in his private life because that's his business. The problem with the SJW movement is that they want to regulate EVERYTHING you say ANYWHERE. Well for white people anyways because we've never seen black or native people be censored or disciplined much for all the offensive things they say because apparently supposed 'victim groups' can say whatever they like still and not face much if any backlash. Rules for thee and not for me of course.
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Post#105 » by ItsDanger » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:11 pm

Los_29 wrote:Hockey players have refused to wear LGBT themed jerseys because of “religious” beliefs. Has that happened in other sports as frequently as it has in hockey? Just seems like hockey hasn’t progressed as much as the other sports. Even something like fighting took way too long to phase out. It’s also the only sport in the world where its players can’t tolerate losing and resort to fighting and cheap shots towards the end of the game. It’s mainly comprised of adults that haven’t grown up yet. Lol. With that said I enjoy watching playoff hockey when the Leafs are in it.

Hockey has had a lot of serious issues come to light the past few years. Hopefully they take the necessary steps to prevent these issues from happening in the future. I am encouraged with some of the things they have been doing recently to try and bring more diversity to the sport. But the harsh reality is it’s a game of privilege and that is why you have an alarming number of players with fathers who played in the NHL.

LOL, define privilege. NBA has a height privilege as an example. You're limiting privilege to one variable. No shock there.

Bet you've never played contact sports in your life to complain about end of game fights.
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Post#106 » by sbsat » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:16 pm

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sbsat wrote:No one is saying the people who play hockey are inherently racist, but the entire system and culture (a by product of years and years) is exclusionary along the lines of race. Its also acceptable to do racist things, because when your in the system, no one knows any better.


Please show me PROOF of this to be true? You're taking some incidents of racism in hockey and painting the narrative that this is a widespread issue. I've said repeatedly that pretty much all these incidents of racism happened in the minor leagues and that no player in the NHL has been accused and proven to be saying anything racist on the ice during a game.

Also again I ask why aren't people like you making this same deep dive analysis of other sports like baseball, basketball and football who are also greatly lacking diversity especially Asian diversity. The NFL and NBA are mostly black and white players and baseball only has mostly Japanese and Korean imports with very few North American born Asian players in their league. Why aren't you spot lighting that lack of diversity the same way you're doing it for hockey?

Why is there lack of diversity in the league? Explain it. The immigrant population in Canada and the Northern States of the USA have wealth. You can no longer peg it to affordability. I also know people with young kids (coloured south asian) who say their kids were never made to feel they "fit in" when they tried hockey.


The answer is likely most minority kids either grow up having little interest in playing hockey to begin with and/or they have little interest in playing it at a high level the same reason why you don't find many minority kids playing in the NBA and NFL. Again you have BILLIONS of Asian people in the world and yet there's barely any playing in the NBA and NFL. Why is that? Are those sports not inclusive and racist as well? Or is the more drama free and simple answer is that Asian kids have no interest and/or aren't capable of reaching the highest levels of those sports because of not enough skill and/or not having the physical abilities to do so?

Go through the entire list of Olympic sports and you'll see plenty of events that are almost completely devoid of black athletes competing in them. Go through the list again and you'll see plenty of events that are almost completely devoid of Asian athletes. Does this mean that some sports are hugely racist towards black people and other sports are hugely racist towards Asian people or maybe, JUST MAYBE Asians and blacks have different preferences as to which sports they enjoy and are good at and want to pursue at a high level?

I guess to people like you, this is just rampant racism and intolerance at work that every sport isn't massively diverse while to me to me the above is a logical explanation as to why some sports are dominated by some race/ethnic groups and other sports are dominated by other race/ethnic groups with little to no racist/discrimination/intolerant aspect to it at all.

Lastly, I should say I grew up a leafs fan even though my parents could never afford to put me in hockey. My eyes were opened in my first year of university when my roomate (who played hockey in the OHL) exposed me to the racist underbelly of hockey. He would often make very insensitive jokes about black people and indians and when I would confront him he would say this is how we would talk in the locker room. Hes not racist, he just didn't know any better.


Back in the day before the SJW movement went into full crazy mode, making racial and insensitive jokes was often just that. IE banter between friends. If these people actually disliked some if not all minorities and mistreated them in everyday life then that would be a problem and a different story. Years ago simply making racial and offensive jokes among friends didn't make you racist. Tons of famous comedians in the 80s and 90s had plenty of racist and offensive jokes in their acts and no one took issue with it. It wasn't until the SJW movement really got going did comedians who it was long understood were allowed to push boundaries in what they could say were reigned in and mostly brought under control because a relative small number of people felt it was 'too offensive'.

Charles Barley probably said it best when he made it clear that while saying racist, intolerant and offensive things in public wasn't acceptable that he wouldn't ever stop doing so among his own friends and in his private life because that's his business. The problem with the SJW movement is that they want to regulate EVERYTHING you say ANYWHERE. Well for white people anyways because we've never seen black or native people be censored or disciplined much for all the offensive things they say because apparently supposed 'victim groups' can say whatever they like still and not face much if any backlash. Rules for thee and not for me of course.


Dude again can you consider condensing your rhoughts this is crazy. The nba isn't basketball. I beleive there are leagues thriving in china, Philippines and other parts of asia..m these peoplem are playing the sport. Baseball, look at Korea, japan, DR,mexico, cuba, etc etc etc.... The sport is being played and thriving. Where do you see this with hockey?? This is silly
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Post#107 » by GQStylin » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:40 pm

maternal85 wrote:No need wasting your time. He's clearly a racist that enjoys his privilege.


Well duh. OF COURSE I'm a 'racist'. Everyone who disagrees with you you probably view as a 'racist' these days. Just label me as being one so you can ignore all the other valid arguments I've made that you don't want to challenge because likely you can't. :roll:

Even when you put facts in their face, they'll still gaslight you. I remember getting tickets to an NHL game. First hockey game ever. Me and my little brother were literally getting dirty looks. Like "what are they doing here". If you're a minority, you know the look I'm talking about. You couldn't pay me to attend another NHL game. I definitely would have followed the league more and got into if the culture was more accepting.


What facts? You and others in here have largely provided anecdotal evidence as to why the NHL is hugely racist rather than actual facts. You getting 'dirty looks' from other hockey fans isn't proof that those hockey fans were racist or that all hockey fans are intolerant of people who aren't white. That's just YOUR personal interpretation of that incident.

I absolutely LOVE how people who constantly say you shouldn't judge an entire race/ethnic group based on the actions of a few are ALWAYS the first to judge an entire race/ethnic group when something supposedly bad happens to them. Rules for thee, but not for me as usual. :roll:

The socio economic excuse is not legit anymore. A lot of visible minorities are doing very well; especially 1st, 2nd, etc generation. They can afford to put their kids in hockey, but they choose not too. The racism is too much. My friends who are professionals and make well over 6 figures, refuse to put their kids in hockey. Money is not an issue either.

I don't think I've ever seen Nav at a hockey game. Not just as a guest appearance too. Him being there because he legit wants to be there.


Thankyou for at least agreeing with me that its not a money issue for many minorities as to whether or not they can afford to put their kids through sports and having them progress to a high level and maybe even towards a pro career. Now please PROVIDE PROOF that its racism/intolerance/discrimination that's keeping them out of hockey rather than a lack of interest, lack of skill and/or lack of physical ability that's keeping them out of hockey?

As I said in my last post, you can go through the list of all Olympic events and find many of those sports severely lacking one race/ethnic group while other sports lack different race/ethnic groups. Is it because of racism that we don't see any black people competing in ping pong or badminton at the Olympics or simply that black people have near zero interest in those sports and hence you likely won't ever see them competing in those events? And why aren't you advocating for more black representation in ping pong and badminton since you seem to want every sport to be more diverse and inclusive?
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Post#108 » by GQStylin » Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:18 pm

sbsat wrote:Dude again can you consider condensing your rhoughts this is crazy. The nba isn't basketball. I beleive there are leagues thriving in china, Philippines and other parts of asia..m these peoplem are playing the sport. Baseball, look at Korea, japan, DR,mexico, cuba, etc etc etc.... The sport is being played and thriving. Where do you see this with hockey?? This is silly


I'm sorry but often I have alot to say on certain issues and try as I might to condense things it still comes out as a rather long response. I would hope that if you're interested in a serious discussion that taking an extra 30 seconds or a minute to read what I've written isn't too much of a burden.

As for basketball the highest level of play is the NBA and its there where we see almost no diversity in its athletes the same as we see very little diversity in the NHL. You seem to only attribute that lack of diversity in the NHL to racism/intolerance and lack of inclusion while I attribute it to much more logical and reasonable explanations which again being lack of interest, lack of skill and/or physical abilities.

If you're going to say the NHL isn't diverse for racism reasons, then why shouldn't we attribute the lack of diversity in the NBA to the same and say they're also not very tolerant and inclusive?

Also ice hockey is being played in a number of nations around the world, just that they almost all happen to be predominately white nations in Europe with a little bit of interest in a few nations in Asia. So hockey is a popular sport in the world, just not as popular and widespread as other sports, but you could say that for the majority of Olympic sports as well where only certain nations are really serious about certain sports while displaying zero interest in others. And lets be real. Soccer is the ONLY single sport that you can truly say is a global and diverse sport that reaches all corners of the planet. Any other sport pales in comparison in its reach.
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Post#109 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:33 pm

Los_29 wrote:Hockey players have refused to wear LGBT themed jerseys because of “religious” beliefs. Has that happened in other sports as frequently as it has in hockey? Just seems like hockey hasn’t progressed as much as the other sports. Even something like fighting took way too long to phase out. It’s also the only sport in the world where its players can’t tolerate losing and resort to fighting and cheap shots towards the end of the game. It’s mainly comprised of adults that haven’t grown up yet. Lol. With that said I enjoy watching playoff hockey when the Leafs are in it.

Hockey has had a lot of serious issues come to light the past few years. Hopefully they take the necessary steps to prevent these issues from happening in the future. I am encouraged with some of the things they have been doing recently to try and bring more diversity to the sport. But the harsh reality is it’s a game of privilege and that is why you have an alarming number of players with fathers who played in the NHL.


I don't think LGBTQ themed jerseys have been proposed at all in other sports, and iirc not in the NBA aside from Reggie Bullock asking for this a few years ago. I believe the NHL actually started this (it sadly collapsed) and that probably says more about a willingness to progress. It's an issue with some religious people, and pro sports are dominated by religious people. MLB took the NHL's attempt as evidence to advise their teams against supporting Pride through uniforms to protect the players.

Frankly, I find it kind of hollow to see people attempt to create villains out of athletes based on the sport they play. Typically they're multi-sport athletes that specialize based on what they're best at or like the best, not because they're racist, homophobes or whatnot.
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Post#110 » by sbsat » Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:46 pm

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sbsat wrote:Dude again can you consider condensing your rhoughts this is crazy. The nba isn't basketball. I beleive there are leagues thriving in china, Philippines and other parts of asia..m these peoplem are playing the sport. Baseball, look at Korea, japan, DR,mexico, cuba, etc etc etc.... The sport is being played and thriving. Where do you see this with hockey?? This is silly


I'm sorry but often I have alot to say on certain issues and try as I might to condense things it still comes out as a rather long response. I would hope that if you're interested in a serious discussion that taking an extra 30 seconds or a minute to read what I've written isn't too much of a burden.

As for basketball the highest level of play is the NBA and its there where we see almost no diversity in its athletes the same as we see very little diversity in the NHL. You seem to only attribute that lack of diversity in the NHL to racism/intolerance and lack of inclusion while I attribute it to much more logical and reasonable explanations which again being lack of interest, lack of skill and/or physical abilities.

If you're going to say the NHL isn't diverse for racism reasons, then why shouldn't we attribute the lack of diversity in the NBA to the same and say they're also not very tolerant and inclusive?

Also ice hockey is being played in a number of nations around the world, just that they almost all happen to be predominately white nations in Europe with a little bit of interest in a few nations in Asia. So hockey is a popular sport in the world, just not as popular and widespread as other sports, but you could say that for the majority of Olympic sports as well where only certain nations are really serious about certain sports while displaying zero interest in others. And lets be real. Soccer is the ONLY single sport that you can truly say is a global and diverse sport that reaches all corners of the planet. Any other sport pales in comparison in its reach.


This is not rocket science. Im talking about the sport you keep focusing on the leagues. Im focusing on the sport. There is no argument to be made that hockey isnt the least diverse of the major sports. Ask yourself why. There is so much of what you are saying is patently false. There are majoy basket ball leagues in europe, north america, asia, latin america, oceania and now africa is next. I honestly dont think i can continue dialogue with someone so blind.. that or you have an inability to to seperate league from sport.
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Post#111 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:05 pm

You need ice rinks to play ice hockey. It's not rocket science. The barrier to entry for hockey as a pastime is much higher. Basically take the easiest athletic skill, like running, and remove that from the sport entirely because there's no running in hockey. There's no throwing, no catching, no kicking. All basic skills that are taught toddlers. It's a complicated sport to play with a lot of equipment required, and I can see why it wouldn't catch on as a popular pastime aside from places where there's frozen water in the winter.
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Post#112 » by sbsat » Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:50 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:You need ice rinks to play ice hockey. It's not rocket science. The barrier to entry for hockey as a pastime is much higher. Basically take the easiest athletic skill, like running, and remove that from the sport entirely because there's no running in hockey. There's no throwing, no catching, no kicking. All basic skills that are taught toddlers. It's a complicated sport to play with a lot of equipment required, and I can see why it wouldn't catch on as a popular pastime aside from places where there's frozen water in the winter.


Keep drinking that kool aid. North america has 2nd,3rd and beyond generations of coloured people and they somehow get filtered out of the sport. Underrepresented at all levels. Also do you have stats on grassroots engagement of this populous in the sport? Also have you watched black ice, a first hand account of lingering anti black racism from pk subban himself and based on a written book?

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Post#113 » by C_Money » Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:54 pm

Can’t mention hockey on this board without a race debate breaking out :lol:
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Post#114 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:03 pm

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:You need ice rinks to play ice hockey. It's not rocket science. The barrier to entry for hockey as a pastime is much higher. Basically take the easiest athletic skill, like running, and remove that from the sport entirely because there's no running in hockey. There's no throwing, no catching, no kicking. All basic skills that are taught toddlers. It's a complicated sport to play with a lot of equipment required, and I can see why it wouldn't catch on as a popular pastime aside from places where there's frozen water in the winter.


Keep drinking that kool aid. North america has 2nd,3rd and beyond generations of coloured people and they somehow get filtered out of the sport. Underrepresented at all levels. Also do you have stats on grassroots engagement of this populous in the sport? Also have you watched black ice, a first hand account of lingering anti black racism from pk subban himself and based on a written book?

Drink that kool aid!


What kool aid am I drinking? I was responding to your comment about why there aren't pro hockey leagues in places like South America and Africa. There's no question that racism in hockey is a barrier as well.
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sbsat wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:You need ice rinks to play ice hockey. It's not rocket science. The barrier to entry for hockey as a pastime is much higher. Basically take the easiest athletic skill, like running, and remove that from the sport entirely because there's no running in hockey. There's no throwing, no catching, no kicking. All basic skills that are taught toddlers. It's a complicated sport to play with a lot of equipment required, and I can see why it wouldn't catch on as a popular pastime aside from places where there's frozen water in the winter.


Keep drinking that kool aid. North america has 2nd,3rd and beyond generations of coloured people and they somehow get filtered out of the sport. Underrepresented at all levels. Also do you have stats on grassroots engagement of this populous in the sport? Also have you watched black ice, a first hand account of lingering anti black racism from pk subban himself and based on a written book?

Drink that kool aid!


What kool aid am I drinking? I was responding to your comment about why there aren't pro hockey leagues in places like South America and Africa. There's no question that racism in hockey is a barrier as well.
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Post#116 » by Westside Gunn » Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:15 pm

As someone who grew up playing all sports and watching all sports in elementary until HS:

For hockey, there are more barriers to the game that prevent entry, a big chunk knowing how to skate which is 85% of the game. Being an elite skater makes you stand out. Parents aren't willing to commit to their kids learning how to skate as early as three. It aint easy. But in my time, my team was pretty multicultural but the best players were european or white. Never faced racism.

I would say you have a better chance of becoming a non white hockey player than a colored basketball player. Victor Webanyama has forced everyone to be at least 6'8. You may need to hit the financial lottery to play hockey your whole life, but you will need to hit the genetic lottery to play a "simple" game of basketball. The resources are widely available, but you can sit yo lazy ass and complain about racism. Cost wise, last time I checked, basketball training was as expensive as hockey training, on a per session basis for kids or adults.

While hockey does have its racism, it is not the reason why the game isn't popular besides North America. Its mainly because the players keep to themselves, keep off social media and don't promote the game outside of playing the game. They are not attention whores. Look at basketball, every goddamn player has a podcast, cameras are always on them for their drip, and all of that gets circulated.

I took a newcomer coworker to a hockey game once, and he said it was one of the most impressive things he's seen in his life.

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Post#117 » by HiJiNX » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:55 pm

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Post#118 » by tripa » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:07 pm

There is a racism problem in hockey because it is a sport that is 99% white and white supremacy dominates most of modern day society.

Why play hockey when you can play basketball/football with other people that look like you while doing it? Its not much deeper than that. Hockey is a dying sport that black people dont care about. Get over it.

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Post#119 » by Los_29 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:49 pm

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Los_29 wrote:Hockey players have refused to wear LGBT themed jerseys because of “religious” beliefs. Has that happened in other sports as frequently as it has in hockey? Just seems like hockey hasn’t progressed as much as the other sports. Even something like fighting took way too long to phase out. It’s also the only sport in the world where its players can’t tolerate losing and resort to fighting and cheap shots towards the end of the game. It’s mainly comprised of adults that haven’t grown up yet. Lol. With that said I enjoy watching playoff hockey when the Leafs are in it.

Hockey has had a lot of serious issues come to light the past few years. Hopefully they take the necessary steps to prevent these issues from happening in the future. I am encouraged with some of the things they have been doing recently to try and bring more diversity to the sport. But the harsh reality is it’s a game of privilege and that is why you have an alarming number of players with fathers who played in the NHL.

LOL, define privilege. NBA has a height privilege as an example. You're limiting privilege to one variable. No shock there.

Bet you've never played contact sports in your life to complain about end of game fights.


I played a lot of sports actually and some of my favourite ones are MMA and boxing, which I have posted about on this very forum. I like to watch trained fighters fight not hockey players on skates who can't fight.

And did you just compare height privilege to financial privilege? :lol:

What a weird post.
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Post#120 » by GQStylin » Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:08 am

sbsat wrote:This is not rocket science. Im talking about the sport you keep focusing on the leagues. Im focusing on the sport. There is no argument to be made that hockey isnt the least diverse of the major sports. Ask yourself why. There is so much of what you are saying is patently false. There are majoy basket ball leagues in europe, north america, asia, latin america, oceania and now africa is next. I honestly dont think i can continue dialogue with someone so blind.. that or you have an inability to to seperate league from sport.


You're right this isn't rocket science. The problem is you already have a conclusion in your mind and you're only accepting answers that fit that conclusion and you refuse to believe that there are other reasons for how things are they way they are. Namely we both agree that hockey is a prodominately white person sport. The problem is that you only seem to accept that the reason hockey is predominately white is because its not inclusive and welcoming enough to other races/ethnic groups of people and you refuse to acknowledge there are other factors at play.

I don't know why you're doing this unless you just want to paint white people as being racist and intolerant and are hellbent on keeping hockey as white as possible. If that's not what you're doing then you would accept that people from different parts of the world often have different interests and pastimes and that not everyone has to like and enjoy the same things. Sports is like food. There is a ton of variety in the world and yet not everyone likes the same foods. People are free to like some foods and completely dislike or ignore foods from other parts of the world and everyone is perfectly fine with people choosing what they like.

Yet somehow when it comes to sports and more specifically hockey, you think there's something inherently 'wrong' with hockey just because to you its 'too white'. You can't accept that maybe, JUST MAYBE many minority groups just plain aren't interested in playing the sport. You can't accept that perhaps there are many minorities who may enjoy watching hockey, but have no interest in playing the sport. You can't accept that you can't force people to like and take part in a sport that they simply aren't interested in much like you can't force someone to like all kinds of foods in the world.

What I'm saying is that its OK for people to all not like and play the same sports just as we're fine with people all not liking the same foods. The problem is hockey is predominately white and in this SJW world that we live in 'too white' equals automatically something is wrong and it must be 'fixed'. Let me ask you a question. If hockey were a 95% black sport, would you or anyone else be criticising a predominately black NHL for being 'too black' and demand that it be more diverse and inclusive to other races/ethnic groups of people? I'm pretty sure we both know the answer to that question.

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