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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#1461 » by Hal14 » Wed Sep 6, 2023 2:51 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Miami's going to get him for crap,
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Portland could just keep him. He just signed a long term extension last year - they don't have to trade Dame..
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Post#1462 » by MeanGeraldGreen » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:02 am

Lebron’s got Wood.

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Post#1463 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:16 am

MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Lebron’s got Wood.

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He was definitely tired of waiting for Dame

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Post#1465 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Sep 6, 2023 11:29 am

Lakers are very deep with all these offseason moves...

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#1466 » by steefP2 » Wed Sep 6, 2023 12:00 pm

If not Blake; just sign biyombo
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Post#1467 » by MeanGeraldGreen » Wed Sep 6, 2023 12:35 pm

steefP2 wrote:If not Blake; just sign biyombo


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Post#1468 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Sep 6, 2023 1:02 pm

https://www.celticsblog.com/2023/9/6/23861046/we-are-going-to-regret-not-signing-christianwood

We are going to regret not signing #ChristianWood
By hurdler17 on Sep 6, 2023, 7:10am

He signed for basically $3million. I think specifically it was 5.7 for 2 years with a player option. I know the front office doesn't work the rumor mill, but there's evidence they looked at several players, and Wood was never mentioned.

Last year he averaged 14.4 pts and 7.1 rebs with 1.1 blks in only 25.5 minutes. That's more points than White, Al, or Rob. That's more rebounds than Brown, Al, or Grant. And more blocks than everyone except Rob.

When mid-December rolls around and one or more of the bigs are sidelined for an extended time, there will be all kinds of suggestions to get Blake or Kabengele back, trade Brogdan for 50 cents on the dollar, and continue playing Tatum and Brown up 1 position.
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Post#1469 » by Hal14 » Wed Sep 6, 2023 1:41 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:https://www.celticsblog.com/2023/9/6/23861046/we-are-going-to-regret-not-signing-christianwood

We are going to regret not signing #ChristianWood
By hurdler17 on Sep 6, 2023, 7:10am

He signed for basically $3million. I think specifically it was 5.7 for 2 years with a player option. I know the front office doesn't work the rumor mill, but there's evidence they looked at several players, and Wood was never mentioned.

Last year he averaged 14.4 pts and 7.1 rebs with 1.1 blks in only 25.5 minutes. That's more points than White, Al, or Rob. That's more rebounds than Brown, Al, or Grant. And more blocks than everyone except Rob.

When mid-December rolls around and one or more of the bigs are sidelined for an extended time, there will be all kinds of suggestions to get Blake or Kabengele back, trade Brogdan for 50 cents on the dollar, and continue playing Tatum and Brown up 1 position.

Good grief. This "writer" should learn to spell players names correctly. lmao at anyone wanting to bring Kabengele back.

lol at him getting more rebounds than Brown, a wing who's job is not to rebound. And Grant is a bad rebounder for his position so saying he got more rebounds than Grant does nothing to prove his point.

This writer should understand that just because we were rumored to be interested in a player, doesn't mean we were. And Just because there were no reported rumors with us being interested in a player, doesn't mean we weren't.
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Post#1471 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Sep 6, 2023 2:35 pm

Lakers builkt a great team.

**** that pisses me off.
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Post#1472 » by Hal14 » Wed Sep 6, 2023 2:42 pm

Biyombo wouldn't be a bad option. At this point, the best bigs available are (in no particular order)

Blake - unlikely to resign here

Biyombo - not a bad option but between defensive switchability, shooting and playmaking, the C's seem to like bigs who check at least 1 or 2 of those boxes and Biyombo doesn't really check any. Then again, a guy like Clint Capela doesn't check any either and I'm sure we'd take Capela in a heartbeat (if it was realistic, of course). If Biyombo can be a cheaper Capela, why not? We could certainly do worse for a 4th or 5th big

JaMychal Green - veteran ring chaser. A little bit undersized at the 5 but so is Garuba, so is Griffin and so is Gabriel. He can shoot it pretty good. Not sure how much gas he has left in the tank, though. Didn't get a lot of mins last season for the warriors, and his mins went down as the season went on. And at times he looked a little out of shape, or maybe just getting old and running out of gas

Garuba - I think we've talked about him to death at this point, so not adding anything else for now haha

Wenyen Gabriel - we've talked about him quite a bit as well. I really like his motor and energy. Him and Garuba both have young legs, fresh legs. They both play really hard and with good energy. Both a little bit undersized at the 5 but decent size for a small ball 5. The main differences between them is Garuba I think is a little more impactful in terms of defense, rebounding and rim protection. Garuba is also like 5 yrs younger so has a higher ceiling/upside. Gabriel though is 5 yrs older and more polished as a player, obviously more NBA experience so with Gabriel you know what you're gonna get from him with greater certainty. Gabriel got a little bit more playing time last season (on the Lakers, who made WCF) than Garuba got for the worst team in the league. Garuba since he is so young and inexperienced makes mistakes that you see from a young kid who is still raw and still developing. You get less of those mistakes with Gabriel.

It seems like the celtics strategy with these last few roster spots is getting guys on non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed contracts so they have the flexibility to get rid of the guy if it's not working out or if they want to go in a different direction with that roster spot. So it might come down to which of these guys is ok with taking that type of contract.

Perhaps we just end up signing a couple of exhibit 10 guys to fight for the spot in camp, though.
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Post#1473 » by 165bows » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:12 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Lakers builkt a great team.

**** that pisses me off.

Yeah they made a few nice moves. Whole thing rests on Lebron being one of the best basketball players in the world at 39 though so there’s that.
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Post#1474 » by 165bows » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:21 pm

Hal14 wrote:Biyombo wouldn't be a bad option. At this point, the best bigs available are (in no particular order)

Blake - unlikely to resign here

Biyombo - not a bad option but between defensive switchability, shooting and playmaking, the C's seem to like bigs who check at least 1 or 2 of those boxes and Biyombo doesn't really check any. Then again, a guy like Clint Capela doesn't check any either and I'm sure we'd take Capela in a heartbeat (if it was realistic, of course). If Biyombo can be a cheaper Capela, why not? We could certainly do worse for a 4th or 5th big

JaMychal Green - veteran ring chaser. A little bit undersized at the 5 but so is Garuba, so is Griffin and so is Gabriel. He can shoot it pretty good. Not sure how much gas he has left in the tank, though. Didn't get a lot of mins last season for the warriors, and his mins went down as the season went on. And at times he looked a little out of shape, or maybe just getting old and running out of gas

Garuba - I think we've talked about him to death at this point, so not adding anything else for now haha

Wenyen Gabriel - we've talked about him quite a bit as well. I really like his motor and energy. Him and Garuba both have young legs, fresh legs. They both play really hard and with good energy. Both a little bit undersized at the 5 but decent size for a small ball 5. The main differences between them is Garuba I think is a little more impactful in terms of defense, rebounding and rim protection. Garuba is also like 5 yrs younger so has a higher ceiling/upside. Gabriel though is 5 yrs older and more polished as a player, obviously more NBA experience so with Gabriel you know what you're gonna get from him with greater certainty. Gabriel got a little bit more playing time last season (on the Lakers, who made WCF) than Garuba got for the worst team in the league. Garuba since he is so young and inexperienced makes mistakes that you see from a young kid who is still raw and still developing. You get less of those mistakes with Gabriel.

It seems like the celtics strategy with these last few roster spots is getting guys on non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed contracts so they have the flexibility to get rid of the guy if it's not working out or if they want to go in a different direction with that roster spot. So it might come down to which of these guys is ok with taking that type of contract.

Perhaps we just end up signing a couple of exhibit 10 guys to fight for the spot in camp, though.

I’d lean Gabriel from that group but same issue is they like guys with ball skills and I’m not sure how much are there. Maybe Lamar Stevens if they go more four which def could happen (Brad said not long ago he’s happy with the C group but may add a 4).

Still like Blake better but maybe that’s in the cards. And good point on the contracts, they may want a guy they can stay flexible with.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#1475 » by Dogen » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:22 pm

Hal14 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:https://www.celticsblog.com/2023/9/6/23861046/we-are-going-to-regret-not-signing-christianwood

We are going to regret not signing #ChristianWood
By hurdler17 on Sep 6, 2023, 7:10am

He signed for basically $3million. I think specifically it was 5.7 for 2 years with a player option. I know the front office doesn't work the rumor mill, but there's evidence they looked at several players, and Wood was never mentioned.

Last year he averaged 14.4 pts and 7.1 rebs with 1.1 blks in only 25.5 minutes. That's more points than White, Al, or Rob. That's more rebounds than Brown, Al, or Grant. And more blocks than everyone except Rob.

When mid-December rolls around and one or more of the bigs are sidelined for an extended time, there will be all kinds of suggestions to get Blake or Kabengele back, trade Brogdan for 50 cents on the dollar, and continue playing Tatum and Brown up 1 position.

Good grief. This "writer" should learn to spell players names correctly. lmao at anyone wanting to bring Kabengele back.

lol at him getting more rebounds than Brown, a wing who's job is not to rebound. And Grant is a bad rebounder for his position so saying he got more rebounds than Grant does nothing to prove his point.

This writer should understand that just because we were rumored to be interested in a player, doesn't mean we were. And Just because there were no reported rumors with us being interested in a player, doesn't mean we weren't.


And it takes two to tango. Was there any indication that Wood was interested in signing with the Celtics? Or was he holding out, waiting for that South Beach/Hollywood life?

Some of these guys were waiting for the fallout from the Lillard trade, but now it's getting late in the game. The big market, seasonally warm, celebrity city, star powered teams get first dibs.

Wood is a really talented dude. But really interested in basketball? Maybe not so much. He went to where the action is.
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Post#1476 » by Dogen » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:31 pm

Hal14 wrote:Biyombo wouldn't be a bad option. At this point, the best bigs available are (in no particular order)

Blake - unlikely to resign here

Biyombo - not a bad option but between defensive switchability, shooting and playmaking, the C's seem to like bigs who check at least 1 or 2 of those boxes and Biyombo doesn't really check any. Then again, a guy like Clint Capela doesn't check any either and I'm sure we'd take Capela in a heartbeat (if it was realistic, of course). If Biyombo can be a cheaper Capela, why not? We could certainly do worse for a 4th or 5th big

JaMychal Green - veteran ring chaser. A little bit undersized at the 5 but so is Garuba, so is Griffin and so is Gabriel. He can shoot it pretty good. Not sure how much gas he has left in the tank, though. Didn't get a lot of mins last season for the warriors, and his mins went down as the season went on. And at times he looked a little out of shape, or maybe just getting old and running out of gas

Garuba - I think we've talked about him to death at this point, so not adding anything else for now haha

Wenyen Gabriel - we've talked about him quite a bit as well. I really like his motor and energy. Him and Garuba both have young legs, fresh legs. They both play really hard and with good energy. Both a little bit undersized at the 5 but decent size for a small ball 5. The main differences between them is Garuba I think is a little more impactful in terms of defense, rebounding and rim protection. Garuba is also like 5 yrs younger so has a higher ceiling/upside. Gabriel though is 5 yrs older and more polished as a player, obviously more NBA experience so with Gabriel you know what you're gonna get from him with greater certainty. Gabriel got a little bit more playing time last season (on the Lakers, who made WCF) than Garuba got for the worst team in the league. Garuba since he is so young and inexperienced makes mistakes that you see from a young kid who is still raw and still developing. You get less of those mistakes with Gabriel.

It seems like the celtics strategy with these last few roster spots is getting guys on non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed contracts so they have the flexibility to get rid of the guy if it's not working out or if they want to go in a different direction with that roster spot. So it might come down to which of these guys is ok with taking that type of contract.

Perhaps we just end up signing a couple of exhibit 10 guys to fight for the spot in camp, though.


Biyombo would be serviceable. Yeah, he doesn't check off the boxes, but the team added 3pt shooting, offense and passing in Porzingis. Biyombo just needs to come in, hit the boards, be a live body, and make sure Al and Rob don't get worn out during the regular season.

I'd prefer to see what Garuba could bring, but Biyombo is a 12 year vet, and has averaged 67 games per season. He should have something left in the tank and provide a good journeyman presence off the bench.
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Post#1477 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:31 pm

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MeanGeraldGreen wrote:Lebron’s got Wood.

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He was definitely tired of waiting for Dame

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All the vets signing now

Probably means there is zero traction on a Lillard deal to Miami and guys are not waiting anymore to sign with Miami.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 10 and Counting . . . 

Post#1478 » by Dogen » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:33 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lakers are very deep with all these offseason moves...

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C: Anthony Davis, Christian Wood, Jaxson Hayes


Dang, if LeBron and Davis can stay healthy through most of the year, the Lakers are right there with other contenders. PHO/LAL games will be fun to watch.
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Post#1479 » by Dogen » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:41 pm

Get Bizzy, Brad!

Some footage from last season. Sets a couple nice screens, decent passes, a few blocks, puts a body on Embiid, and finishes aroung the basket. He does check off some of the boxes. No 3pt'er to speak of, but Joe can now have 4 shooters out there with him.

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Post#1480 » by playa-hater » Wed Sep 6, 2023 4:15 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Lakers are very deep with all these offseason moves...

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PG: D’Angelo Russell, Gabe Vincent, Jalen Hood-Schifino
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SF: LeBron James, Cam Reddish, Taurean Prince, Maxwell Lewis
PF: Rui Hachimura, Jarred Vanderbilt
C: Anthony Davis, Christian Wood, Jaxson Hayes


Being good on paper doesn't guarantee anything. (we should know), but the LAL have a championship level roster IMO.
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