Little Swaggy: The Kelly Oubre Jr Thread

Rich4114 · Post #381 » by **Rich4114** » Tue Aug 1, 2023 1:32 pm

amcoolio wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:This thread has become irrational. Oubre is not as bad as most make him out to be

He is a negative player. In his career, he's never had a positive RPM for any season. That's insane! Simply not having him on the team means more points and wins. We need to rid ourselves of players like that.

He would have been signed by now as a long, big, lengthy wing who can shoot the 3 if he was anything above zero, but he isn't

Kelly has played on some BAD teams throughout his career, so I wouldn't put too much stock in that. But I do agree, probably best to move on given we need to improve our team basketball IQ and Kelly lowers it especially since the role he expects to play in is greater than what he's capable of.

JMAC3 · Post #382 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Aug 1, 2023 2:52 pm

amcoolio wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:This thread has become irrational. Oubre is not as bad as most make him out to be

He is a negative player. In his career, he's never had a positive RPM for any season. That's insane! Simply not having him on the team means more points and wins. We need to rid ourselves of players like that.

He would have been signed by now as a long, big, lengthy wing who can shoot the 3 if he was anything above zero, but he isn't

https://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3

Oubre posting a positive RPM last year, ranking 101 out of 525 players.

Also, 150/525 players were positive RPM. Not sure even having a negative RPM is some rare occurence as you are trying to make it.

JMAC3 · Post #383 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:35 pm

Add the Heat to list of teams wanting to sign Oubre.
Cavs, Memphis, Miami, Boston, Dallas.

Problem is they all really only have the min to offer other than Memphis.
but yeah 5 playoff teams interested in him, but we would rather sit on 20 million in cap space and have Tre Scott get our 15th roster spot.... but don't worry our organization is all about the playoffs this season lol.

LofJ · Post #384 » by **LofJ** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:11 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Add the Heat to list of teams wanting to sign Oubre.
Cavs, Memphis, Miami, Boston, Dallas.

Problem is they all really only have the min to offer other than Memphis.
but yeah 5 playoff teams interested in him, but we would rather sit on 20 million in cap space and have Tre Scott get our 15th roster spot.... but don't worry our organization is all about the playoffs this season lol.

I don't have any interest in signing Oubre, but you're spot on right here. If this team was serious about competing they would have been a lot more active this off-season.

Post #385 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Sep 18, 2023 10:58 pm

Read on Twitter

Color me surprised that he's not going to be back in Charlotte next season

ETA: wow this is kinda nuts

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SWedd523 · Post #386 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:33 pm

Guess the market for Kelly's services wasn't so, uh, robust after all.

Post #387 » by **fatlever** » Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:55 pm

Oh no!

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Liver_Pooty · Post #388 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 12:17 am

Whens the last time a guy who averaged 20 a game got the vet minimum

Post #389 » by **fatlever** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:29 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Whens the last time a HEALTHY guy, IN HIS PRIME, who averaged 20 a game FOR A FULL SEASON, got the vet minimum

that's a great trivia question? i added some words to really drive it home.
can anyone get us an answer?

Post #390 » by **Diop** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:00 am

chatgpt doesnt know

Post #391 » by **Diop** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:02 am

Schroeder the best I can guess and he didn't average 20

even Magette never played for the minimum

JMAC3 · Post #392 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:46 pm

There were like 4 teams who could offer him over the min at this point and that includes the Hornets. Him signing with a contender who needs depth on a 1 year min isn't a surprise. He is very obviously worth more, but the way FA works these days these deals are bound to happen.

The Pacers have 7 million in cap space and that is the most in the league.
A few teams could have offered him an MLE deal.

We are probably going to regret not bringing him back especially if we ship out Rozier or Hayward in a Herro deal.

HornetJail · Post #393 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:05 pm

fatlever wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Whens the last time a HEALTHY guy, IN HIS PRIME, who averaged 20 a game FOR A FULL SEASON, got the vet minimum

that's a great trivia question? i added some words to really drive it home.
can anyone get us an answer?

I highly doubt it's ever happened in the history of the league, barring injury or someone who did something horrible and flat out ended his career.

Terrible combo of cap space drying up at record speed, teams being uber-conscious of efficiency, and the Hornets being an absolute dumpster fire.

Also I truly believe the Hornets have been viewed as completely toxic around the league for multiple seasons, and teams want nothing to do with our cast-offs.

Post #394 » by **yosemiteben** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:19 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:Also I truly believe the Hornets have been viewed as completely toxic around the league for multiple seasons, and teams want nothing to do with our cast-offs.

I would have thought that Malik Monk and Caleb Martin would have put that to bed.

HornetJail · Post #395 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:28 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:Also I truly believe the Hornets have been viewed as completely toxic around the league for multiple seasons, and teams want nothing to do with our cast-offs.

I would have thought that Malik Monk and Caleb Martin would have put that to bed.

Monk, despite a pretty solid last season here, only got a vet minimum with the lakers... that's kind of proving my point

Post #396 » by **fatlever** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:20 pm

JMAC3 wrote:We are probably going to regret not bringing him back especially if we ship out Rozier or Hayward in a Herro deal.

we won't regret not bringing him back. we aren't a serious playoff team (even if we were, Kelly won't help on any consistent basis). any minutes that could have gone to kelly in the absence of terry/hayward are better spent going to miller, nick jr., bailey, thor to give them.

Hornet Mania · Post #397 » by **Hornet Mania** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:01 pm

We know Oubre is all empty stats, teams around the league obviously recognize that as well.

The thing about bringing him back is that it would worsen the log jam of minutes at SF/PF. I'd much rather give Miller that extra burn.

Post #398 » by **Diop** » Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:13 pm

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Post #399 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:22 am

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:Also I truly believe the Hornets have been viewed as completely toxic around the league for multiple seasons, and teams want nothing to do with our cast-offs.

I would have thought that Malik Monk and Caleb Martin would have put that to bed.

Monk, despite a pretty solid last season here, only got a vet minimum with the lakers... that's kind of proving my point

Right but Monk proved to be worth it, which was my point. I figured after Monk and Martin that no one would think former Hornets can't contribute.

Post #400 » by **Diop** » Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:30 am

Batum and Diaw got gigs straight away as well