Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, part 11th Heaven

[Patsfan1081]

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Does still feel like they could use some more size and shooting. For a 6’ 6” pg Banton really didnt seem like he used it well in summer league. Need to see more of his defense.

[Celts17Pride]

Someone who would know and that I can vouch for, said that Brogdon is legitimately pissed at the FO.

It doesn’t mean he will be an issue, I highly doubt that he will be. Just figured I’d pass it along, take it FWIW.

Wasnt this reported last week? Seems odd too considering he’s a expiring contract and has been traded numerous times already.

Brogdon is not an expiring contract

[ddb]

I like the Stevens signing. Gritty guy with good size that'll put in the effort and make hustle plays. Hauser/Svi/Brissett/Stevens/Walsh as backup wings behind JT/JB... Brad continues to bring in size & length across the board. I love it.

White/Brogdon/Pritchard/Banton

JT/JB/Stevens/Brissett/Hauser/SVI/Walsh

KP/Horford/Timelord/Kornet

My guess is Steven/Brissett/Walsh play primarily as a smaller "bigs" whereas Hauser/Svi will compete for bigger "guard" minutes.

[BK_2020]

Pritchard better be on his way out. This is a 6'4 and up team now.

[Celts17Pride]

I like the Stevens signing. Gritty guy with good size that'll put in the effort and make hustle plays. Hauser/Svi/Brissett/Stevens/Walsh as backup wings behind JT/JB... Brad continues to bring in size & length across the board. I love it.

White/Brogdon/Pritchard/Banton

JT/JB/Stevens/Brissett/Hauser/SVI/Walsh

KP/Horford/Timelord/Kornet

My guess is Steven/Brissett/Walsh play primarily as a smaller "bigs" whereas Hauser/Svi will compete for bigger "guard" minutes.

Could see a lot of one "big" lineups, especially in the regular season.

[Hal14]

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Eh. I doubt we get anyone better than Banton to sign for the minimum.

They would just sign with a different team that can offer more playing time than we can.

And I don't understand how the Stevens signing prompts Greenie to say this. Stevens is a 3/4 who brings defense, intensity, hustle. Banton is a combo-guard who can handle the ball well, really good at getting downhill, pressuring the rim, getting into the paint where he can either finish or make some good passes to the open man, force some turnovers on D.

There isn't really overlap between them. They bring different things to the table and both can potentially be valuable pieces in getting banner 18. And it's not like the Stevens signing puts us over the maximum number of 15 roster spots, which would mean someone would have to get waived. The Stevens signing puts us right at 15 guys - so they can all stay.

A lot of people seem to hate on Banton and think he isn't gonna make the roster. But the guy has legit talent, he's young (only 23), he can do some good things on offense, he can do some good things on defense, he has good size, he plays hard. And honestly, how many 6'9" or taller PG's are there in the league? It's pretty much Ben Simmons, who was an all-NBA player before his career got derailed by injuries and not working hard anymore.

If we cut Banton, then people would complain that we don't have enough young guys with high upside for us to develop.

We've got 15 guys on the roster now. I see no reason why those can't be the 15 guys on our opening night roster. It's a very good, very deep roster with talent at every position, a nice mix of skillsets and a nice mix of vets and young guys, plenty of size, versatility, shooting, etc.

[Hal14]

Does still feel like they could use some more size and shooting.

I think we have plenty of both. Everyone we added this offseason has size:

Porzingis: 7'3" with a 7'6" wingspan
Walsh: 6'7" with a 7'2" wingspan
Brissett: 6'7" with a 7'0" wingspan
Stevens: 6'6", 230 lbs and a 6'9" wingspan
Svi: 6'7"
Banton: 6'9"
Queta: 7'0" with a 7'4" wingspan and 250 lbs

Plus we already had Rob (7'6" wingspan), Al (6'9", 240 lbs), Tatum (6'8"), Hauser (6'8), Kornet (7'2")

We've got plenty of shooting with Tatum, Brogdon, Al, Porzingis, Hauser, Pritchard, Svi, etc.

Does still feel like they could use some more size and shooting. For a 6’ 6” pg Banton really didnt seem like he used it well in summer league.

This says he's 6'9" with a 6'10" wingspan:

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Summer league really doesn't matter that much. Banton only played in 2 summer league games. That's a tiny sample size, we definitely shouldn't be basing much on that - especially considering he was coming back from a finger injury.

[snowman]

Another great signing. We certainly have the backup forwards to rest Tatum and Brown as necessary now. We also didn't need to sign another insurance big since we can bring Queta up as needed, until the playoffs anyway. With Svi, Banton, Stevens and Kornet all signed to partially guaranteed deals, we still have some options, if needed. I do think that Banton is the only one that should be concerned at this point, although he was the first signing this summer by Stevens. If Banton does start to impress, Pritchard might get his wish in being traded. This roster doesn't look good for a 6'1 player. I have no doubt the other three will be fully guaranteed by Jan 10th.

White, Brown, Tatum, Rob, Porzingis

Brogdon, Svi. Hauser, Brissett, Horford

Pritchard, Banton, Walsh, Stevens, Kornet

2-way: JD, Scrub, Queta

[MaxwellSmart]

I just hope our "Coach" will utilize all these guys and not wear out the Jays.

[Dogen]

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1:18: "I haven't seen, like, Brogdon and Griffin, maybe? But, everybody's been there."

I'm not trying to stir the pot, and don't think Walsh is either. Just an observation of suspicion by omission.

Also, not trying to stir the pot, but Jordan Walsh is my favorite Celtics draft pick since... Desmond Bane.

Edit: Several mentions of Pritchard. (Not stirring pot)

[Andrew McCeltic]

Someone who would know and that I can vouch for, said that Brogdon is legitimately pissed at the FO.

It doesn’t mean he will be an issue, I highly doubt that he will be. Just figured I’d pass it along, take it FWIW.

LA f*cked us out of a grand slam home run trade.

Is he insulted at being on the market? Did they promise he’d be here longterm? Sacrificing for the team coming off the bench is respectable, but he would’ve been starting for the Clippers and had more leverage for his next contract.

[Dogen]

Someone who would know and that I can vouch for, said that Brogdon is legitimately pissed at the FO.

It doesn’t mean he will be an issue, I highly doubt that he will be. Just figured I’d pass it along, take it FWIW.

LA f*cked us out of a grand slam home run trade.

Is he insulted at being on the market? Did they promise he’d be here longterm? Sacrificing for the team coming off the bench is respectable, but he would’ve been starting for the Clippers and had more leverage for his next contract.

Wait until Giannis and Joel hit the market next year. Everybody's gonna be insulted!

[Dogen]

Wow, just seeing the Stevens signing. Brad is knocking it out of the park! Svi and Lamar were top of the class. Queta is great value for 2-Way. Just wow!

[Darthlukey]

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Man Hal, how do you keep it up in the offseason!

That's what she said

And now you are stealing my jokes :-p

[Half-Full]

Wow, just seeing the Stevens signing. Brad is knocking it out of the park! Svi and Lamar were top of the class. Queta is great value for 2-Way. Just wow!

Hard to argue with that.

[Curmudgeon]

Forget Giannis (will stay in Milwaukee) and forget Embiid (not a winning player-- sucks the life out of teammates). But Doncic will ask out and will be available.

[Dogen]

Wow, just seeing the Stevens signing. Brad is knocking it out of the park! Svi and Lamar were top of the class. Queta is great value for 2-Way. Just wow!

Hard to argue with that.

What really impresses me is that these are the type of guys that the Celtics couldn't seem to land in the past.

I thought Svi was going overseas, but he decided to sign with Celtics.

Queta I figured the team would pass on as he's more of a beastly big rather than the prototypical Celtics floor-spreading shooting big, but Brad got him. Now we have an Embiid-sized back up in Maine.

And Stevens. I just figured that he would look elsewhere rather then take a low tier spot. But he will likely work into the rotation. A guy like Stevens sees what's happening and our roster is looking like a group of guys who expect to be wearing jewelry next June.

[Tatumfor2]

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1:18: "I haven't seen, like, Brogdon and Griffin, maybe? But, everybody's been there."

I'm not trying to stir the pot, and don't think Walsh is either. Just an observation of suspicion by omission.

Also, not trying to stir the pot, but Jordan Walsh is my favorite Celtics draft pick since... Desmond Bane.

Edit: Several mentions of Pritchard. (Not stirring pot)

[31to6]

Another great signing. We certainly have the backup forwards to rest Tatum and Brown as necessary now. We also didn't need to sign another insurance big since we can bring Queta up as needed, until the playoffs anyway. With Svi, Banton, Stevens and Kornet all signed to partially guaranteed deals, we still have some options, if needed. I do think that Banton is the only one that should be concerned at this point, although he was the first signing this summer by Stevens. If Banton does start to impress, Pritchard might get his wish in being traded. This roster doesn't look good for a 6'1 player. I have no doubt the other three will be fully guaranteed by Jan 10th.

White, Brown, Tatum, Rob, Porzingis

Brogdon, Svi. Hauser, Brissett, Horford

Pritchard, Banton, Walsh, Stevens, Kornet

2-way: JD, Scrub, Queta

I’d be happy to see them deal Pritchard for a couple of seconds before the season starts. Payton is going to be expensive for his production this year and likely — IF he succeeds in that role — prohibitively expensive for the top-heavy Celtics going forward.

I could easily like a second string backcourt of Malcolm and Banton more than Malcolm and Pritchard. Better size, defensive versatility, and significantly cheaper.

This is how I’d open up a 15th roster spot for Blake.

[SuperDeluxe]

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1:18: "I haven't seen, like, Brogdon and Griffin, maybe? But, everybody's been there."

I'm not trying to stir the pot, and don't think Walsh is either. Just an observation of suspicion by omission.

Also, not trying to stir the pot, but Jordan Walsh is my favorite Celtics draft pick since... Desmond Bane.

Edit: Several mentions of Pritchard. (Not stirring pot)

Super-likable guy.