Dame traded to the Bucks!

[wco81]

If Holiday's value is anything close to some of the offers on the T&T board we are going to come out of this trade very happy.

It's a tricky situation with Jrue.

He has a PO next year for around $40 million.

He had said previously that he was going to retire after his current contract but then told a Milwaukee reporter recently that he's looking for an extension.

So Portland has to move him as an expiring asset.

But the acquiring team may be only getting a rental, so they'd be reluctant to pay too high a price.

I'd love for the Warriors to acquire him but they have 2 trade-able FRPs for the rest of the decade so it would be a high price to give up FRPs for a rental.

And they can't extend him for anywhere close to his current salary, because they already got a sky-high payroll and they also have Klay as an expiring contract too.


Any team acquiring him has to determine if they're going for a rental or plan to keep Jrue beyond this season. That will determine how much they're willing to pay for him.

Sure any playoffs contenders should want him.

Last season though, he had one of his best offensive seasons, 48/38.4/86. But in the 5 games vs. Miami, he shot 40/28/69.

That is one big reason why Milwaukee traded for Dame. Bucks were the #1 seed, 58 or 59 wins last season and then they collapsed in the playoffs.

Jrue's market value will depend a lot on what kind of season he has at age 33, including the playoffs. That will determine if he signs a multi-year extension next year at over $35 million a year or he exercises that PO and see if he can raise his market value.

He might still command over $30 million a year regardless of how he plays though.

So it'll be interesting to see his trade market.

I don't know how the rules work though, if a team can trade for him before the season and then trade him again by the February Trade Deadline if as an expiring asset, his team decides they can't use him the rest of the season -- like a contending team has other key injuries and isn't going to be a factor in the playoffs.

If Jrue can be traded twice this season, then there will be greater demand for him.

[Pattycakes]

Jrue seems to have better interest than dame did lol. Interesting

[Sinobas]

This is a great deal, because Holiday probably has as much trade value as Damian. He's a top defender and doesn't have the super-max extension. Also the Bucks are likely to suck when that unprotected pick comes due.

[Sinobas]

as for the trade...generically, the Blazers got hosed. Compared to what other elite players have been traded for lately, the Blazers got hosed

but it was a much tighter market now in the first year of a new CBA, so I'd say the Blazers did as good as they could, especially considering the suspected collusion between Pat Riley and Dame's agent

I've never been impressed with Ayton; and I'd much rather have Jrue than Ant. But I'm assuming Jrue will bring back more in trade

You have to wait and see what we get for Jrue first. Also Rudy Gobert fetched 4 1st round picks, but the Blazers acquired a center that is better than him.

[monopoman]

Also can't a team talk with Jrue to see if he would be likely to re-sign with that team?

Is that against the NBA rules?

I could see a team like the Sixers finding Jrue very appealing.

[Case2012]

The trade was garbage. Most of the blazers fans on here just wanted Dame gone so they’re deluding themselves thinking this was a good thing. It wasn’t. We should have done Dame right by getting him help like they promised they would for several years, but instead lied to him and lied to the fans. Anyone still supporting this team says a lot about their character IMO. Makes me wonder how they treat the people in their lives. Loyalty doesn’t mean much to a lot of people these days. I get some people are just relieved to have the drama over and wanted to keep dame initially before the request btw.

Ayton is garbage. Those picks could be good or could be bad. We have no idea what they’ll do to improve the team and Giannis at 34 will still be an all star level player. Look at Lebron at 38 ffs. Rue will get one pick back probably.

These POS front office people and owners need to go before I eff with the blazers again. I’m done.

[PDXKnight]

The trade was garbage. Most of the blazers fans on here just wanted Dame gone so they’re deluding themselves thinking this was a good thing. It wasn’t. We should have done Dame right by getting him help like they promised they would for several years, but instead lied to him and lied to the fans. Anyone still supporting this team says a lot about their character IMO. Makes me wonder how they treat the people in their lives. Loyalty doesn’t mean much to a lot of people these days. I get some people are just relieved to have the drama over and wanted to keep dame initially before the request btw.

Ayton is garbage. Those picks could be good or could be bad. We have no idea what they’ll do to improve the team and Giannis at 34 will still be an all star level player. Look at Lebron at 38 ffs. Rue will get one pick back probably.

These POS front office people and owners need to go before I eff with the blazers again. I’m done.

It depends on what we do with jrue

[Fifii]

Phoenix fan here

Glad to see Ayton with PG who wasn’t in Phoenix after trade CP3

Maybe in new environment he show what he can. He isn’t bad center but in Phoenix he was unhappy and lazy

[sunsbum]

Another Phoenix fan here.. leader of the Ayton hater club. Buckle up, it’s going to be a rocky ride. Ayton is as soft as they come and earned the nickname She’andre over on our board. Look up the clip of dame telling Ayton he was soft while DA had a chance to ice the game at the FT line vs Portland. Classic Ayton.

[DiegoChara]

The trade was garbage. Most of the blazers fans on here just wanted Dame gone so they’re deluding themselves thinking this was a good thing. It wasn’t. We should have done Dame right by getting him help like they promised they would for several years, but instead lied to him and lied to the fans. Anyone still supporting this team says a lot about their character IMO. Makes me wonder how they treat the people in their lives. Loyalty doesn’t mean much to a lot of people these days. I get some people are just relieved to have the drama over and wanted to keep dame initially before the request btw.

Ayton is garbage. Those picks could be good or could be bad. We have no idea what they’ll do to improve the team and Giannis at 34 will still be an all star level player. Look at Lebron at 38 ffs. Rue will get one pick back probably.

These POS front office people and owners need to go before I eff with the blazers again. I’m done.

This just in. If you’re still a Blazer fan you probably kick dogs, steal candy from babies, and don’t return the shopping cart to the designated cart return station.

What an absolutely garbage take. Lol.

[DC_Melo]

Wow, reactions are all over the place lol.

Overall, I think the Blazers did well considering their position. I have season seats to the suns and have watched a lot of Ayton. He’s not quite as good as you expect him to be, but is much better than the player a lot of suns fans dismiss him to be.

But at 25 and coming into a new scene where he can be a key contributor… I have optimism he will gel with our young backcourt.

The deal is incomplete in my eyes until we know what the future holds for Jrue, but the Bucks pick and swaps from 2028-2030 give us three straight years of potentially high valued picks. Dame will be done with his current contract, Giannis will be 5 years older, and the Bucks are less likely to reload their roster in a quick window given they are a small market with many of the same challenges we face. It also nice that those picks will come at a time when Scoot and Sharpe are already extended and we will need to supplement our roster with cheap talent.

I also like that Dame went to the Bucks, where I’ll still have a lot of fun rooting for him, and based off his initial reaction on social media, Dame seems thrilled by it too. I don’t get the vibe that he feels screwed
over by the Blazers in the slightest.

Trade grade currently: B-

Subject to change depending on what we do with Jrue.

[NBAFAN001]

The trade was garbage. Most of the blazers fans on here just wanted Dame gone so they’re deluding themselves thinking this was a good thing. It wasn’t. We should have done Dame right by getting him help like they promised they would for several years, but instead lied to him and lied to the fans. Anyone still supporting this team says a lot about their character IMO. Makes me wonder how they treat the people in their lives. Loyalty doesn’t mean much to a lot of people these days. I get some people are just relieved to have the drama over and wanted to keep dame initially before the request btw.

Ayton is garbage. Those picks could be good or could be bad. We have no idea what they’ll do to improve the team and Giannis at 34 will still be an all star level player. Look at Lebron at 38 ffs. Rue will get one pick back probably.

These POS front office people and owners need to go before I eff with the blazers again. I’m done.

It's called time to move on and cut the loses with Dame. He and his agent sabotaged his trade value.

[zzaj]

The trade was garbage. Most of the blazers fans on here just wanted Dame gone so they’re deluding themselves thinking this was a good thing. It wasn’t. We should have done Dame right by getting him help like they promised they would for several years, but instead lied to him and lied to the fans. Anyone still supporting this team says a lot about their character IMO. Makes me wonder how they treat the people in their lives. Loyalty doesn’t mean much to a lot of people these days. I get some people are just relieved to have the drama over and wanted to keep dame initially before the request btw.

Ayton is garbage. Those picks could be good or could be bad. We have no idea what they’ll do to improve the team and Giannis at 34 will still be an all star level player. Look at Lebron at 38 ffs. Rue will get one pick back probably.

These POS front office people and owners need to go before I eff with the blazers again. I’m done.

Case, I'm really not sure what you could have wanted. This wasn't Lillard of 3 years ago before the supermax extension. This was the Lillard who said, "I only want to play for [not your team]." Both of those are going to temper a return.

The Blazers never had a window of title contention with Lillard. They may have just given themselves one in 2020.

[Red Robot]

Glad to have this behind us. I had checked out as far as the Lillard news within a couple weeks of the draft and trade demand.

My first thoughts are that it's a solid trade, better than I feared but worse than I hoped. What I find frustrating is that the situation still feels unresolved because it's so difficult to assess the value of the return.

I'd rather have much sooner picks to fit with the current rebuild, but given they're coming from Milwaukee it's better that they're a ways out. Those picks and swaps are potentially an amazing long-term asset. There's also a chance they just become a couple of barely-useful late 1sts. We won't know for years, and then we won't know how the players picked turn out for even more years.

Ayton is kind of the same way. I hope the front office and coaches know what they're doing and have a plan for him. If he becomes a long-term high-level starter, it's a great trade. If he's another Whiteside or a recent Nurk, only at 34 million/year, that's going to hurt.

[The Sebastian Express]

For the 1 and a half Heat fan trying to troll the thread, this is a reminder: don't.

I'd like to see what Jrue gets before I have any comments.

Do appreciate some GMs out there giving lowball offers only to see it result in their direct competitor getting an upgrade.

[Pattycakes]

Everyone freaking out, I will pick the devils advocate position, good trade! Great fit.

But really, I’m somewhere in between.. this wasn’t a terrible deal it’s just that teams were in lalalaland trading 45 picks for Gobert and Donovan Mitchell who will never be worth the other end of their deals.

[Pattycakes]

Anyone see we trade nassir and nurk to Phoenix? Maybe more deal details to come

[DusterBuster]

Anyone see we trade nassir and nurk to Phoenix? Maybe more deal details to come

Wut? Can't tell if this is a joke. That was part of the Dame deal. No more details to come, it's part of the trade.

[monopoman]

Wow, reactions are all over the place lol.

Overall, I think the Blazers did well considering their position. I have season seats to the suns and have watched a lot of Ayton. He’s not quite as good as you expect him to be, but is much better than the player a lot of suns fans dismiss him to be.

But at 25 and coming into a new scene where he can be a key contributor… I have optimism he will gel with our young backcourt.

The deal is incomplete in my eyes until we know what the future holds for Jrue, but the Bucks pick and swaps from 2028-2030 give us three straight years of potentially high valued picks. Dame will be done with his current contract, Giannis will be 5 years older, and the Bucks are less likely to reload their roster in a quick window given they are a small market with many of the same challenges we face. It also nice that those picks will come at a time when Scoot and Sharpe are already extended and we will need to supplement our roster with cheap talent.

I also like that Dame went to the Bucks, where I’ll still have a lot of fun rooting for him, and based off his initial reaction on social media, Dame seems thrilled by it too. I don’t get the vibe that he feels screwed
over by the Blazers in the slightest.

Trade grade currently: B-

Subject to change depending on what we do with Jrue.

I think most rate the trade a B by the Blazers perspective I was watching a Blazer stream just after it and the average of the couple hundred watching that Stream was a B grade on the poll.

We have reports that Miami never changed their offer so it was:

Herro
Lowry
Two 1st round picks

or

Ayton
Jrue
Camara
One 1st round pick
Two Pick Swaps

I think the package on the bottom is better and we also got out of Nurkic's contract which many on here consider bad. I also would bet on the Bucks being in a not great place by the time those picks roll around, we could easily get a lottery pick out of those swaps or 1st.

[red_power]

I think Phoenix are actually the main losers in this deal. Getting Ayton for a bunch of very questionable role players is a face-saver for Blazers here.

No way Suns would have pulled this trade I think had they not been so desperate to unload some salary while getting at least somebody able to perform on the court.