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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#781 » by j4remi » Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:28 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:I'll never switch teams and I find college football extremely boring! I'll just wait until they make the playoffs before I watch any more football.

I'm just done. I am usually fairly upbeat and I try to be positive about my teams. This team has taken it out of my soul! As bad as the Knicks have been, I have had a decade+ of playoffs and a couple of finals runs in there before they became this mess. The Jets have been terrible for most of the last 40+ years.

As for the QBs. Waiting until the second round to draft a QB is not trying to get a QB. Geno? Not even worth mentioning. Using top picks on WRs/TEs/KICKERS? BROWNING FUQQING NAGLE?? WHAT? :evil:

I am just done. There's nothing positive to say about this team in the last 55 years. 4 AFCCG losses. That's it. Nothing else worth talking about. The worst owners in he NFL every time they get a new one!


I respect the loyalty and feel your pain. I've pretty much taken a break from the Yankees for this season because Cashman drives me nuts, so I know the feeling.

The draft stuff has been crazy frustrating. The one thing I give JD credit for is using premium picks at positions I like (aka mostly both lines), but the jury's out on the actual selections.

I don't agree with Geno slander though...Geno was a really good get and has developed into a pretty good QB (closer to the middle of the pack, but he would have this Jets team in the playoffs). Drafting TE's and the Kicker pick (he wasn't even good) are killers. I don't picking WRs high as much.

My one thing is that you HAVE to hit on your high picks. We have the most insane history of failure picking in the second round that I have ever seen. It's as cursed as our QB slot.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#782 » by DOT » Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:33 pm

j4remi wrote:I'd probably switch to a new team or pick up College football :lol:

You could be a UConn fan like me

They're essentially the Jets of the NCAA. My freshman year was 2013, since then they've gone 27-87, with 2 seasons of 6-7, every other year 3-9 or worse. 0-4 so far this year and just got the piss kicked out of them 41-7 by Duke and have Utah State tomorrow

Between 2018 and 2022 they had 1 win against a Major conference opponent

But we're undefeated against Notre Dame all time, so there's that.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#783 » by j4remi » Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:40 pm

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j4remi wrote:I'd probably switch to a new team or pick up College football :lol:

You could be a UConn fan like me

They're essentially the Jets of the NCAA. My freshman year was 2013, since then they've gone 27-87, with 2 seasons of 6-7, every other year 3-9 or worse. 0-4 so far this year and just got the piss kicked out of them 41-7 by Duke and have Utah State tomorrow

Between 2018 and 2022 they had 1 win against a Major conference opponent

But we're undefeated against Notre Dame all time, so there's that.


I'm not much better. My squad is Rutgers since I had a bunch of friends there, and now my niece cheers for them (she tumbles across the End Zone at ever game, genuinely elite at all that stuff). My friends all went there during Ray Rice's monster season, so I threw my loyalty that way...huge mistake. They've basically sucked ever since.

Then again, the other big football school at the time I hung out at was Penn State. So I coulda hopped on a winning bandwagon, but it would have been the first time I switch allegiance in any sport after the Paterno news came out.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#784 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:55 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:I'll never switch teams and I find college football extremely boring! I'll just wait until they make the playoffs before I watch any more football.

I'm just done. I am usually fairly upbeat and I try to be positive about my teams. This team has taken it out of my soul! As bad as the Knicks have been, I have had a decade+ of playoffs and a couple of finals runs in there before they became this mess. The Jets have been terrible for most of the last 40+ years.

As for the QBs. Waiting until the second round to draft a QB is not trying to get a QB. Geno? Not even worth mentioning. Using top picks on WRs/TEs/KICKERS? BROWNING FUQQING NAGLE?? WHAT? :evil:

I am just done. There's nothing positive to say about this team in the last 55 years. 4 AFCCG losses. That's it. Nothing else worth talking about. The worst owners in he NFL every time they get a new one!


I respect the loyalty and feel your pain. I've pretty much taken a break from the Yankees for this season because Cashman drives me nuts, so I know the feeling.

The draft stuff has been crazy frustrating. The one thing I give JD credit for is using premium picks at positions I like (aka mostly both lines), but the jury's out on the actual selections.

I don't agree with Geno slander though...Geno was a really good get and has developed into a pretty good QB (closer to the middle of the pack, but he would have this Jets team in the playoffs). Drafting TE's and the Kicker pick (he wasn't even good) are killers. I don't picking WRs high as much.

My one thing is that you HAVE to hit on your high picks. We have the most insane history of failure picking in the second round that I have ever seen. It's as cursed as our QB slot.


The second rd picks have been abysmal! It was like another curse! The back to back safeties in the top of the draft was another killer.

Geno is nothing worth talking about. He has had ONE good season in 10 years. That's not worth talking about when we have NEVER drafted a good QB in the first rd/top of the draft...OR ANYWHERE in the draft in decades. Geno is not a top 10 QB. That's ridiculous!
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#785 » by j4remi » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:27 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:The second rd picks have been abysmal! It was like another curse! The back to back safeties in the top of the draft was another killer.

Geno is nothing worth talking about. He has had ONE good season in 10 years. That's not worth talking about when we have NEVER drafted a good QB in the first rd/top of the draft...OR ANYWHERE in the draft in decades. Geno is not a top 10 QB. That's ridiculous!


I wouldn't say top-10. But he's a good QB, and has been for three years. In spot duty as a back-up, he was over 100 QBR two seasons ago, then he repeated the success last season, and he's on the same trajectory this season. Two games over 300 yards, close to 70% completions, and 4:1 TD to INT ratio so far.

There's zero reason to hate on Geno right now.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#786 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:44 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:The second rd picks have been abysmal! It was like another curse! The back to back safeties in the top of the draft was another killer.

Geno is nothing worth talking about. He has had ONE good season in 10 years. That's not worth talking about when we have NEVER drafted a good QB in the first rd/top of the draft...OR ANYWHERE in the draft in decades. Geno is not a top 10 QB. That's ridiculous!


I wouldn't say top-10. But he's a good QB, and has been for three years. In spot duty as a back-up, he was over 100 QBR two seasons ago, then he repeated the success last season, and he's on the same trajectory this season. Two games over 300 yards, close to 70% completions, and 4:1 TD to INT ratio so far.

There's zero reason to hate on Geno right now.


He's been in the league TEN YEARS! :lol: I am not hating on him. I'm stating the facts. His backup numbers? Really? He has had one decent (9-8) season in 10 years and 3 decent games. Are we really discussing this in context of the Jets QB draft failures? As if that's a success? He's a journeyman. You can feel good for the dude all you want but, as a draft pick to get us a QB to win it all, failure. You don't wait ten years for your QB to develop. :lol:
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#787 » by DOT » Fri Sep 29, 2023 2:50 pm

Did it take 10 years for Geno to develop, or did it take 10 years for him to get a legit 2nd chance as a starter?

Frankly, I think the latter is more likely the case.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#788 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:07 pm

DOT wrote:Did it take 10 years for Geno to develop, or did it take 10 years for him to get a legit 2nd chance as a starter?

Frankly, I think the latter is more likely the case.


Most likely a combination of the two. He was very immature coming in. I think the structure in Seattle is really helpful and he is making the most of a good opportunity.

The problem is that the sports world is fickle. If you come in with hype and don't live it in two years, you are gone. Decade ago, that same time you would just be getting your first licks. Rules have skewed for football, like basketball, for the offense so it's easier for younger guys to have success, but players need opportunities to gain experience. Lance is in the same position as Wilson. Is Zach at least running the scout team reps?
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Post#789 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:11 pm

DOT wrote:Did it take 10 years for Geno to develop, or did it take 10 years for him to get a legit 2nd chance as a starter?

Frankly, I think the latter is more likely the case.


Geno actually getting a legit shot at the job, and being under Pete Carroll who clearly knows how to put his QBs in positions to succeed
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#790 » by j4remi » Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:49 pm

DOT wrote:Did it take 10 years for Geno to develop, or did it take 10 years for him to get a legit 2nd chance as a starter?

Frankly, I think the latter is more likely the case.


I'm fully with the latter. The Jets did him so dirty that he almost washed out of the league. The ten-year thing is just proof of how bad the Jets have handled their QB's. Geno lost a chunk of a promising career to the BS they put him through.
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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#791 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:18 pm

j4remi wrote:
DOT wrote:Did it take 10 years for Geno to develop, or did it take 10 years for him to get a legit 2nd chance as a starter?

Frankly, I think the latter is more likely the case.


I'm fully with the latter. The Jets did him so dirty that he almost washed out of the league. The ten-year thing is just proof of how bad the Jets have handled their QB's. Geno lost a chunk of a promising career to the BS they put him through.


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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#792 » by Mecca » Sun Oct 1, 2023 12:34 pm

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Geno one of the best 10 QB's in the sport. Their issue is that they pick the wrong ones. Lamar was sitting there for them way back.


I remember when you and I were the only people saying that the Jets should trade back and take Lamar. Then they traded up and we had to switch gears. If I'm not mistaken, I wanted Darnold and you wanted Mayfield...both look like duds to me now, but Mayfield's still got a shot.



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Re: The Official NY Jets Thread. 

Post#793 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Oct 1, 2023 1:11 pm

j4remi wrote:
DOT wrote:Did it take 10 years for Geno to develop, or did it take 10 years for him to get a legit 2nd chance as a starter?

Frankly, I think the latter is more likely the case.


I'm fully with the latter. The Jets did him so dirty that he almost washed out of the league. The ten-year thing is just proof of how bad the Jets have handled their QB's. Geno lost a chunk of a promising career to the BS they put him through.


Geno was an immature punk on the Jets. Maybe if the Jets waited 7 years for him to grow up, maybe.

The Jets just suck at assessing talent and attitude in general, though. Which spans multiple front offices, which of course they change every 3 or 4 years anyway. Because they can never hire the right people in the first place. Who then always hire overrated defensive assistants, who they make head coaches, to lackluster success and certainly mostly terrible offensive teams.

I can only invest time in one completely hopeless sports team, so I do that with the Knicks, who at least (maybe) started trending upwards after 20 years. The Jets are forever a joke.
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Post#794 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Oct 1, 2023 5:32 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
j4remi wrote:
DOT wrote:Did it take 10 years for Geno to develop, or did it take 10 years for him to get a legit 2nd chance as a starter?

Frankly, I think the latter is more likely the case.


I'm fully with the latter. The Jets did him so dirty that he almost washed out of the league. The ten-year thing is just proof of how bad the Jets have handled their QB's. Geno lost a chunk of a promising career to the BS they put him through.


Geno was an immature punk on the Jets. Maybe if the Jets waited 7 years for him to grow up, maybe.

The Jets just suck at assessing talent and attitude in general, though. Which spans multiple front offices, which of course they change every 3 or 4 years anyway. Because they can never hire the right people in the first place. Who then always hire overrated defensive assistants, who they make head coaches, to lackluster success and certainly mostly terrible offensive teams.

I can only invest time in one completely hopeless sports team, so I do that with the Knicks, who at least (maybe) started trending upwards after 20 years. The Jets are forever a joke.


So, um, you watching the Jets-Chiefs game tonight?
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Post#795 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Oct 1, 2023 5:50 pm

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j4remi wrote:
I'm fully with the latter. The Jets did him so dirty that he almost washed out of the league. The ten-year thing is just proof of how bad the Jets have handled their QB's. Geno lost a chunk of a promising career to the BS they put him through.


Geno was an immature punk on the Jets. Maybe if the Jets waited 7 years for him to grow up, maybe.

The Jets just suck at assessing talent and attitude in general, though. Which spans multiple front offices, which of course they change every 3 or 4 years anyway. Because they can never hire the right people in the first place. Who then always hire overrated defensive assistants, who they make head coaches, to lackluster success and certainly mostly terrible offensive teams.

I can only invest time in one completely hopeless sports team, so I do that with the Knicks, who at least (maybe) started trending upwards after 20 years. The Jets are forever a joke.


So, um, you watching the Jets-Chiefs game tonight?


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Post#796 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Oct 1, 2023 7:35 pm

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Geno was an immature punk on the Jets. Maybe if the Jets waited 7 years for him to grow up, maybe.

The Jets just suck at assessing talent and attitude in general, though. Which spans multiple front offices, which of course they change every 3 or 4 years anyway. Because they can never hire the right people in the first place. Who then always hire overrated defensive assistants, who they make head coaches, to lackluster success and certainly mostly terrible offensive teams.

I can only invest time in one completely hopeless sports team, so I do that with the Knicks, who at least (maybe) started trending upwards after 20 years. The Jets are forever a joke.


So, um, you watching the Jets-Chiefs game tonight?


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Post#797 » by damedash09 » Mon Oct 2, 2023 12:56 am

Elite defense ...
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Post#798 » by Oscirus » Mon Oct 2, 2023 12:56 am

There goes that elite defense. After the current egg the defense is laying in the first quarter, I better not hear any bitching about what they think concerning zach wilson.
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Post#799 » by Rich Rane » Mon Oct 2, 2023 1:05 am

Imagine 4 weeks in and believing this o-line has enough time for a flea flicker.
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Post#800 » by Rich Rane » Mon Oct 2, 2023 1:06 am

Oscirus wrote:There goes that elite defense. After the current egg the defense is laying in the first quarter, I better not hear any bitching about what they think concerning zach wilson.


Bro, he's still terrible.

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