2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors

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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#61 » by One_and_Done » Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:47 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:I wasn't surprised, but that's because I knew he was deadset on LA and there was nothing the Spurs could have done either.


If the Spurs handled it better overall Kawhi probably stays , he wasn’t planning on this the entire time or anything he was genuinely a Spurs for lifer till the falling out happened

And your evidence for this is?
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#62 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:05 pm

One_and_Done wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:I wasn't surprised, but that's because I knew he was deadset on LA and there was nothing the Spurs could have done either.


If the Spurs handled it better overall Kawhi probably stays , he wasn’t planning on this the entire time or anything he was genuinely a Spurs for lifer till the falling out happened

And your evidence for this is?


You understand how having inside sources works right :lol: I’m going to tell u rn u don’t know more about what happened than I do because you googled it more lol

Pretty sure he mentioned wanting to retire there I don’t remember if that was lip service after everything went down or before it and genuine though
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#63 » by One_and_Done » Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:19 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
If the Spurs handled it better overall Kawhi probably stays , he wasn’t planning on this the entire time or anything he was genuinely a Spurs for lifer till the falling out happened

And your evidence for this is?


You understand how having inside sources works right :lol: I’m going to tell u rn u don’t know more about what happened than I do because you googled it more lol

Pretty sure he mentioned wanting to retire there I don’t remember if that was lip service after everything went down or before it and genuine though

'I got sauces. Trust me bro'.

One mans sources are another mans selective leaks. The first event pre-dates the Spurs correctly diagnosing his injury, and is Kawhi ghosting the team and hiding from their officials. What's the supposed justification for that? Heck, Kawhi's own agent was fired because he wasn't onboard with the unprofessional way he and his camp were behaving (and he then had to sue them to get the money owed to him back).
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#64 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Oct 1, 2023 2:07 am

One_and_Done wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:And your evidence for this is?


You understand how having inside sources works right :lol: I’m going to tell u rn u don’t know more about what happened than I do because you googled it more lol

Pretty sure he mentioned wanting to retire there I don’t remember if that was lip service after everything went down or before it and genuine though

'I got sauces. Trust me bro'.

One mans sources are another mans selective leaks. The first event pre-dates the Spurs correctly diagnosing his injury, and is Kawhi ghosting the team and hiding from their officials. What's the supposed justification for that? Heck, Kawhi's own agent was fired because he wasn't onboard with the unprofessional way he and his camp were behaving (and he then had to sue them to get the money owed to him back).


lmao if you dont understand how media works then say it because this doesn't even make sense.

Again, if you believe every single story you see on twitter about how the situation go ahead. Like i said, im not giving you an opinion im telling you a fact, you can decide whether you wanna believe me or be wrong.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#65 » by One_and_Done » Sun Oct 1, 2023 2:12 am

Strong comeback. Unfortunately I have sauces that contradict your sauces. I can't tell you tho. Sorry bro.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#66 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Oct 1, 2023 2:23 am

One_and_Done wrote:Strong comeback. Unfortunately I have sauces that contradict your sauces. I can't tell you tho. Sorry bro.


lmao thats why ur being a twitter merchant rn
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#67 » by One_and_Done » Sun Oct 1, 2023 2:28 am

Posting last doesn't make you right. If you're going to keep posting try using actual arguments/facts.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#68 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Oct 1, 2023 2:36 am

^say you don’t have sources without saying you don’t have sources lmao

Bro thinks espn articles are facts
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#69 » by OhayoKD » Sun Oct 1, 2023 2:41 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Strong comeback. Unfortunately I have sauces that contradict your sauces. I can't tell you tho. Sorry bro.


lmao thats why ur being a twitter merchant rn

nbastoryteller's expose got more sauces than both of yall combined saying the spurs were a cult sooo

(part 2)

https://firstsportz.com/nba-news-tim-duncans-ex-wife-accused-him-of-being-bisexual-during-their-marriage/
Pop really made y'all think Duncan was a choir-boy lol.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#70 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Oct 1, 2023 3:02 am

OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Strong comeback. Unfortunately I have sauces that contradict your sauces. I can't tell you tho. Sorry bro.


lmao thats why ur being a twitter merchant rn

nbastoryteller's expose got more sauces than both of yall combined saying the spurs were a cult sooo

(part 2)

https://firstsportz.com/nba-news-tim-duncans-ex-wife-accused-him-of-being-bisexual-during-their-marriage/
Pop really made y'all think Duncan was a choir-boy lol.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#71 » by OhayoKD » Sun Oct 1, 2023 3:06 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
lmao thats why ur being a twitter merchant rn

nbastoryteller's expose got more sauces than both of yall combined saying the spurs were a cult sooo

(part 2)

https://firstsportz.com/nba-news-tim-duncans-ex-wife-accused-him-of-being-bisexual-during-their-marriage/
Pop really made y'all think Duncan was a choir-boy lol.
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Putting an apostrophe after the first letter of every word isn't showing a sense of humor. It's basically the equivalent of a valley girl saying "bother" in all their lines. It looks bad, it's insanely passive-aggressive and it's a pain to read. Nothing to do with punctuation.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#72 » by One_and_Done » Sun Oct 1, 2023 3:55 am

I'm going to have to rethink my position now that an anonymous internet poster has told me they have unspecified info from unknown sauces they can't disclose which contradicts me.
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#73 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Oct 1, 2023 6:43 am

OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:nbastoryteller's expose got more sauces than both of yall combined saying the spurs were a cult sooo

(part 2)

https://firstsportz.com/nba-news-tim-duncans-ex-wife-accused-him-of-being-bisexual-during-their-marriage/
Pop really made y'all think Duncan was a choir-boy lol.
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Putting an apostrophe after the first letter of every word isn't showing a sense of humor. It's basically the equivalent of a valley girl saying "bother" in all their lines. It looks bad, it's insanely passive-aggressive and it's a pain to read. Nothing to do with punctuation.


Lmao nah I meant cuz I know you ain’t talking about me lol

Respect the copypasta slander tho
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#74 » by trex_8063 » Sun Oct 1, 2023 8:42 pm

OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Strong comeback. Unfortunately I have sauces that contradict your sauces. I can't tell you tho. Sorry bro.


lmao thats why ur being a twitter merchant rn

nbastoryteller's expose got more sauces than both of yall combined saying the spurs were a cult sooo

(part 2)


What is ^^this supposed to be?

I watched most of it: the author criticizes the world at large for making assumptions about Kawhi while he........well, makes a lot of assumptions and speculative leaps all over the place, drawing "conclusions" where he cannot possibly have enough information to do so. He cherry-picks sound-bites to structure a very specific narrative that is very obviously motivated by a degree of bias and venom (even doing the slooooowed speeeeech and other effects to demonize where necessary), while dismissing inconvenient statements out-of-hand. Also while drawing broad "conclusions" based hearsay, speculation, projection (unless he's a close personal confidant of Kawhi, which I don't believe is the case), or single vague instances (such as Kawhi's first technical foul in a Raptor's uniform).
Not to mention the video is four years old and very nearly reeking of four-year-old "told you so" sentiment which came on the heels of Toronto's '19 title (even at the time such sentiment seemed dubious to me, and we've since had things occur which tarnish the narrative he went for at the time).

I mean, it's click-bait garbage.

So what was the point? Is this a joke? Was presented like actual journalistic expose? Is it trolling, and/or throwing a little gas on the fiery back-and-forth [pot-stirring] for funsies?
I'm not sure what I should be making of this, but given its potentially polarizing content, it doesn't seem like it was posted toward any good intent.




So Duncan is diminished or less good/decent [no longer a "choir-boy"] as a team leader? Or as a human being in general?

And is it because he's divorced? Or because he might be bisexual? Or both?
I just want to clear about which demographic this is attacking.

Or does this come only from a place of petty human tendency to revel in the misfortune of others, particularly those who are on a pedestal of sorts?

As a moderator, how am I to view this?
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#75 » by OhayoKD » Mon Oct 2, 2023 4:16 am

trex_8063 wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:nbastoryteller's expose got more sauces than both of yall combined saying the spurs were a cult sooo

(part 2)


What is ^^this supposed to be?

I watched most of it: the author criticizes the world at large for making assumptions about Kawhi while he........well, makes a lot of assumptions and speculative leaps all over the place, drawing "conclusions" where he cannot possibly have enough information to do so. He cherry-picks sound-bites to structure a very specific narrative that is very obviously motivated by a degree of bias and venom (even doing the slooooowed speeeeech and other effects to demonize where necessary), while dismissing inconvenient statements out-of-hand. Also while drawing broad "conclusions" based hearsay, speculation, projection (unless he's a close personal confidant of Kawhi, which I don't believe is the case), or single vague instances (such as Kawhi's first technical foul in a Raptor's uniform).

You say cherrypicked, but in the two videos, I see a bunch of primary and secondary sources tied together coherently in a manner the "kawhi was in the wrong" side hasn't been able to do. I think Kawhi getting his first techincal foul is much better evidence than "omg kawhi didn't show up for the olympics, petty king".

From my vantage point, the spurs being cult, is better argued than the "kawhi was a diva" narrative that was commonly accepted on the basis of...secondary sources/conjecture


I mean, it's click-bait garbage.

If it's clickbair garbage, then so is basically every anti-player media narrative ever. What is the issue with the sources/evidence. Why is it not notable kawhi gets his first technical or a massive shoedeal after he leaves san antonio.
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So Duncan is diminished or less good/decent [no longer a "choir-boy"] as a team leader? Or as a human being in general?
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Being a choir-boy isn't a good thing. I don't have any issue with duncan having a live-in boyfriend. But him living in a polyamaorous relationship completely nukes the idea of him being a david robinson 2.0. The point this was used to support in the video is that san antonio players, like duncan, are constantly branded as milqueotast and humble and boring people when their real-life stuff suggests they aren't because thats how san antonio/pop want their players to be percieved. If anything i find it more impressive duncan, who outside of basketball didn't care one bit about major societal taboos, was able to accept a culture where everyone was turned into robots for the sake of winning.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#76 » by Jadoogar » Mon Oct 2, 2023 12:57 pm

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Djoker wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
Having KD gone was not enough. They needed Klay gone as well.

Cousins being gone hurt the alread poor depth 2019 Warriors depth.

I believe the Warriors with Klay but without KD would have beaten the Raptors in a 7 game series.


Klay played 5 out of 6 games in the series and averaged 26 ppg on +15 rTS.


Warriors were leading in game 6 when Klay got injured and missed the 4th quarter. I think the Warriors would have won game 6 and then won game 7 with a healthy Klay.

I


lol they were up by 5 when Klay got hurt. That wasn't some insurmountable lead.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#77 » by parsnips33 » Mon Oct 2, 2023 4:35 pm

I didn't know Timmy was getting it in like that, respect
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#78 » by EmpireFalls » Mon Oct 2, 2023 4:39 pm

2011 Mavericks.
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Re: 2011 Mavericks vs 2019 Raptors 

Post#79 » by One_and_Done » Mon Oct 2, 2023 8:21 pm

parsnips33 wrote:I didn't know Timmy was getting it in like that, respect

That's all speculative. I couldn't care less either way, what people do in their private life isn't my business provided it's legal and has consent. A random youtuber repeating rumours doesn't give them credibility. His ex-wife threw around alot of accusations, but shockingly "bitter ex-wife tries to smear spouse before divorce proceedings" isn't exactly original. Who knows what's true and what isn't.
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