Who would you Keep, to play off the Bench (Outside of our Top 7)?

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

You go on the list

Thanks. What do I win?

My unending animosity

I was fishing for Constable’s but yours is nice I guess.

[steefP2]

But on topic, seriously why would we cut anyone after 2 preseason games, this is insanity. Also whoever is suggesting Brisset, I can’t fathom why. He’s the only bench guy with + team defense and man defense skills at a position that we notoriously lack defense at outside the jays. You want Tatum and brown to play less ? They play 37 min a night cause we had no one else with any semblance of real defensive upside at the 3. But what about Stevens I hear you say ? Yes he’s stronger and maybe has a higher motor (tho Brisset is no slouch there) but he doesn’t have the off ball instincts of Brisset and historically has been way more damaging offensively

[Hal14]

Keep everyone bar Gabriel, elevate no one which leaves 1 roster spot to do something with the Grant TPE before the deadline.

I don't think we need to leave a roster spot open if we want to make a mid season trade with the Grant TPE.

We could either send a player out in the trade (like when we used the Hayward TPE to get Fournier, and we sent Jeff Teague out in the deal) or we could just waive a player mid-season, right before executing the trade.

[hugepatsfan]

Keep everyone bar Gabriel, elevate no one which leaves 1 roster spot to do something with the Grant TPE before the deadline.

I don't think we need to leave a roster spot open if we want to make a mid season trade with the Grant TPE.

We could either send a player out in the trade (like when we used the Hayward TPE to get Fournier, and we sent Jeff Teague out in the deal) or we could just waive a player mid-season, right before executing the trade.

If you waive the player, you have a dead money charge that counts towards the tax. And the other team might not want to use the roster spot themselves - typically in those cases you have to send cash to cover the rest of year salary for the new team.

Not saying you’re right, just saying there’s good financial benefit to just leaving the spot open. In our tax bracket a minimum salary is like $10M with the tax included I think.

[Hal14]

Keep everyone bar Gabriel, elevate no one which leaves 1 roster spot to do something with the Grant TPE before the deadline.

I don't think we need to leave a roster spot open if we want to make a mid season trade with the Grant TPE.

We could either send a player out in the trade (like when we used the Hayward TPE to get Fournier, and we sent Jeff Teague out in the deal) or we could just waive a player mid-season, right before executing the trade.

If you waive the player, you have a dead money charge that counts towards the tax. And the other team might not want to use the roster spot themselves - typically in those cases you have to send cash to cover the rest of year salary for the new team.

Not saying you’re right, just saying there’s good financial benefit to just leaving the spot open. In our tax bracket a minimum salary is like $10M with the tax included I think.

But we've got a bunch of guys on non-guaranteed contracts. I think the date where the contract becomes guaranteed for a lot of them is like January 10..so you could just waive or trade them before then, like we did last year with Vonleh and Justin Jackson.

Also, the Celtics are all in, over the 2nd apron. Wyc and Brad have said they are going all in for the title this season. I don't think they're worried about a small amount of dead money.

Wyc said this a few months ago:

Read on Twitter

And I could be wrong, but I feel like it's very rare over the past few years for a team to not fill all available roster spots to open the season.

[hugepatsfan]

I don't think we need to leave a roster spot open if we want to make a mid season trade with the Grant TPE.

We could either send a player out in the trade (like when we used the Hayward TPE to get Fournier, and we sent Jeff Teague out in the deal) or we could just waive a player mid-season, right before executing the trade.

If you waive the player, you have a dead money charge that counts towards the tax. And the other team might not want to use the roster spot themselves - typically in those cases you have to send cash to cover the rest of year salary for the new team.

Not saying you’re right, just saying there’s good financial benefit to just leaving the spot open. In our tax bracket a minimum salary is like $10M with the tax included I think.

But we've got a bunch of guys on non-guaranteed contracts. I think the date where the contract becomes guaranteed for a lot of them is like January 10..so you could just waive or trade them before then, like we did last year with Vonleh and Justin Jackson.

Also, the Celtics are all in, over the 2nd apron. Wyc and Brad have said they are going all in for the title this season. I don't think they're worried about a small amount of dead money.

Non guaranteed but you still pay tax on the salary as he earns it. Vet min is like $2M. If you keep a guy until Jan 10 you’ll pay like half of that and retain it on the cap. And the tax on that makes it really like $5M.

Not saying ownership is cheap or anything of the sort. Just pointing out the full financial picture. As aggressive as they’ve been, I’m sure they’re interested in saving some money where possible as would any business owner. I doubt we’re penny pinching over the last few spots, but we’ve seen teams do it before.

[Parliament10]

But on topic, seriously why would we cut anyone after 2 preseason games, this is insanity. Also whoever is suggesting Brisset, I can’t fathom why. He’s the only bench guy with + team defense and man defense skills at a position that we notoriously lack defense at outside the jays. You want Tatum and brown to play less ? They play 37 min a night cause we had no one else with any semblance of real defensive upside at the 3. But what about Stevens I hear you say ? Yes he’s stronger and maybe has a higher motor (tho Brisset is no slouch there) but he doesn’t have the off ball instincts of Brisset and historically has been way more damaging offensively

I don't think it reaches the level of "insanity".
But, we'll see what happens.

[31to6]

But on topic, seriously why would we cut anyone after 2 preseason games, this is insanity. Also whoever is suggesting Brisset, I can’t fathom why. He’s the only bench guy with + team defense and man defense skills at a position that we notoriously lack defense at outside the jays. You want Tatum and brown to play less ? They play 37 min a night cause we had no one else with any semblance of real defensive upside at the 3. But what about Stevens I hear you say ? Yes he’s stronger and maybe has a higher motor (tho Brisset is no slouch there) but he doesn’t have the off ball instincts of Brisset and historically has been way more damaging offensively

I don't think it reaches the level of "insanity".
But, we'll see what happens.

maybe 'over-reactionary'?

[snowman]

I keep all but Kornet. He is non-guaranteed. Sign Queta to fill his spot. Win banner 18. Repeat.

[BK_2020]

After the top 6, only Kornet. We go 7 deep.

[Dogen]

So far in the poll, I think Gabriel is being underrated. Give him a few more games. Sure he looked lost but has only been with the team for a few days.

Brissett also is not getting a lot of love here. Certainly no need to move on from him unless there is a package that brings back a better player. He'll be part of the Grant replacement team ths year.

I'm not big on Hauser or Kornet, but they have continuity in their favor. No need to move on from either unless, again, in a package deal for a better player.

Svi is going to get real minutes. Banton, the verdict is still out. I'm not sure what his role is, particularly with the ascendance of Pritchard, but he is intriguing.

Stevens is as advertised. The team needs a guy like him. Walsh is... untouchable! : ) Maybe he'll have some time in Maine this year?

Queta and Davison are fine for 2-Way.

So I don't see anything that needs to be addressed right away, except for perhaps some extra size and strength. If I had to move one player, it would probably be Kornet, and bring in Kenneth Faried.

I also like theman's idea to use TPE and a pick for Precious Achuiwa. He'd fit a need. Kai Jones I'm not so sure about. He's apparently very available but seems like there's a reason for that.

[snowman]

My guess is they will release Scrubb. I feel bad for him, but that's the business of the NBA. We can open up another 2-way for another big man, which as I see it is our only depth weakness.

[Hal14]

My guess is they will release Scrubb. I feel bad for him, but that's the business of the NBA. We can open up another 2-way for another big man, which as I see it is our only depth weakness.

So you think we're gonna have 2 bigs on 2-way contracts? Both Queta and some other guy? I don't know about that. Sounds too redundant.

2-way contract guys play most of their games in the g league. So ideally, we'd set our team up so that the 3 guys we have on a 2-way, they all complement each other's games, there's no (or very little) overlap in positions, so that we can play all 3 of them at the same time for the Maine team.

I would think whoever replaces Scrubb for that last 2-way spot would be a wing..so he could fit well alongside both JD and Queta.

[Dogen]

Read on Twitter

Is this a photo of Wyc waving bye bye to Marcus, back in February?

No class.

[31to6]

Time to make a new poll/thread now that Hauser had a good shooting night?

[Parliament10]

Time to make a new poll/thread now that Hauser had a good shooting night?

Naw. Votes can be changed.

[snowman]

My guess is they will release Scrubb. I feel bad for him, but that's the business of the NBA. We can open up another 2-way for another big man, which as I see it is our only depth weakness.

So you think we're gonna have 2 bigs on 2-way contracts? Both Queta and some other guy? I don't know about that. Sounds too redundant.

2-way contract guys play most of their games in the g league. So ideally, we'd set our team up so that the 3 guys we have on a 2-way, they all complement each other's games, there's no (or very little) overlap in positions, so that we can play all 3 of them at the same time for the Maine team.

I would think whoever replaces Scrubb for that last 2-way spot would be a wing..so he could fit well alongside both JD and Queta.

If I had my way, Queta wouldn't be on a 2-way anymore, He'd be on the big club, replacing Kornet. Then we would have 2 spots open on a 2-way, one for a wing and one for a big. I also would have a camp battle between Davison and Steward for Davison's 2-way spot. So, really, my 2-way roster could possibly get a complete overhaul, with Queta going to the big club and Steward and Davison fighting it out, and someone else taking Queta and Scrubb's spots.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

But on topic, seriously why would we cut anyone after 2 preseason games, this is insanity. Also whoever is suggesting Brisset, I can’t fathom why. He’s the only bench guy with + team defense and man defense skills at a position that we notoriously lack defense at outside the jays. You want Tatum and brown to play less ? They play 37 min a night cause we had no one else with any semblance of real defensive upside at the 3. But what about Stevens I hear you say ? Yes he’s stronger and maybe has a higher motor (tho Brisset is no slouch there) but he doesn’t have the off ball instincts of Brisset and historically has been way more damaging offensively

This thread topic poll asks who would you keep out of eight players allowing seven selections. Therefore in the theme of this topic you HAVE to let someone go.

Unless you’ve got a Kai Jones situation of course you wouldn’t let anyone go yet, there is no point. However that is not what this thread is asking.

[Hal14]

My guess is they will release Scrubb. I feel bad for him, but that's the business of the NBA. We can open up another 2-way for another big man, which as I see it is our only depth weakness.

So you think we're gonna have 2 bigs on 2-way contracts? Both Queta and some other guy? I don't know about that. Sounds too redundant.

2-way contract guys play most of their games in the g league. So ideally, we'd set our team up so that the 3 guys we have on a 2-way, they all complement each other's games, there's no (or very little) overlap in positions, so that we can play all 3 of them at the same time for the Maine team.

I would think whoever replaces Scrubb for that last 2-way spot would be a wing..so he could fit well alongside both JD and Queta.

If I had my way, Queta wouldn't be on a 2-way anymore, He'd be on the big club, replacing Kornet. Then we would have 2 spots open on a 2-way, one for a wing and one for a big. I also would have a camp battle between Davison and Steward for Davison's 2-way spot. So, really, my 2-way roster could possibly get a complete overhaul, with Queta going to the big club and Steward and Davison fighting it out, and someone else taking Queta and Scrubb's spots.

It's not a terrible plan. But I just don't see them waiving Kornet. Brad and Joe seem to have a lot of confidence in him.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Keep everyone bar Gabriel, elevate no one which leaves 1 roster spot to do something with the Grant TPE before the deadline.

I don't think we need to leave a roster spot open if we want to make a mid season trade with the Grant TPE.

We could either send a player out in the trade (like when we used the Hayward TPE to get Fournier, and we sent Jeff Teague out in the deal) or we could just waive a player mid-season, right before executing the trade.

The poll in this thread requires someone to be let go…on re-reading I had assumed now, but there is no time requirement, so yes, no point rushing it.