Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Crowder Out 8 Weeks

Shaffty · Post #221 » by **Shaffty** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:51 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Sure did, and in the same article Griff says the team won't practice like they are now during the season. Crowder was only hear during the season so he wouldn't have known what camp was like. I think the part where Pat, Bobby, & Giannis talk about the differences is more interesting and they make a point to talk about the differences but also say they don't want to call it better or worse, just different.

because pat/bobby/giannis are nice guys trying to not throw their coach for years under the bus. Jae has no such allegiances

Jae also wasn't here during any of the previous training camps so how could he compare them? Comparing how a team practices at the end of a season vs how they practice in camp are 2 totally different things

he was comparing the vibes in the lockerrooms not who the teams run pre season

MVP2110 · Post #222 » by **MVP2110** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:56 pm

Shaffty wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Shaffty wrote:

because pat/bobby/giannis are nice guys trying to not throw their coach for years under the bus. Jae has no such allegiances

Jae also wasn't here during any of the previous training camps so how could he compare them? Comparing how a team practices at the end of a season vs how they practice in camp are 2 totally different things

he was comparing the vibes in the lockerrooms not who the teams run pre season

Some players get along better with specific coaches. Brook loves Bud and spoke about how he met with him and spoke with him several times this summer. I'm glad the players seemingly like AG so far, heck I'd hope they would considering it's his first camp. Will Crowder and Bobby still like AG if AG benches them in the playoffs? I'm sure AGs style is quite different than it was under Bud, that doesn't necessarily make it better or worse though. We know what Bud did harvested success for this team, and I'm hopeful AG will too. There isn't just one way to win in the NBA so hopefully AG can do that because this year is title or bust for this squad and anything short will be considered a failure.

Daver · Post #223 » by **Daver** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:00 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Jae also wasn't here during any of the previous training camps so how could he compare them? Comparing how a team practices at the end of a season vs how they practice in camp are 2 totally different things

he was comparing the vibes in the lockerrooms not who the teams run pre season

Some players get along better with specific coaches. Brook loves Bud and spoke about how he met with him and spoke with him several times this summer. I'm glad the players seemingly like AG so far, heck I'd hope they would considering it's his first camp. Will Crowder and Bobby still like AG if AG benches them in the playoffs? I'm sure AGs style is quite different than it was under Bud, that doesn't necessarily make it better or worse though. We know what Bud did harvested success for this team, and I'm hopeful AG will too. There isn't just one way to win in the NBA so hopefully AG can do that because this year is title or bust for this squad and anything short will be considered a failure.

Werent their also rumors that brook wasnt all to happy with bud with the O that was rum and wanted more of a role on D.I question if brooks even resigns if bud is back.Think after miami just a hunch some vet players werent to happy with buds approach

MVP2110 · Post #224 » by **MVP2110** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:13 pm

Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Shaffty wrote:

he was comparing the vibes in the lockerrooms not who the teams run pre season

Some players get along better with specific coaches. Brook loves Bud and spoke about how he met with him and spoke with him several times this summer. I'm glad the players seemingly like AG so far, heck I'd hope they would considering it's his first camp. Will Crowder and Bobby still like AG if AG benches them in the playoffs? I'm sure AGs style is quite different than it was under Bud, that doesn't necessarily make it better or worse though. We know what Bud did harvested success for this team, and I'm hopeful AG will too. There isn't just one way to win in the NBA so hopefully AG can do that because this year is title or bust for this squad and anything short will be considered a failure.

Werent their also rumors that brook wasnt all to happy with bud with the O that was rum and wanted more of a role on D.I question if brooks even resigns if bud is back.Think after miami just a hunch some vet players werent to happy with buds approach

Brook talked on media day about how much he loves Bud and how he credits Bud for turning his career around, said he met and spoke with him several times this summer so that Bud knew how much Brook really appreciated him.

Jez2983 · Post #225 » by **Jez2983** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:45 pm

I didn't want to start an argument on how good Nwora is, lol.

It's more that really, he's just an average (at best) NBA player, and we were pinning a lot of hope on him. This year, we've got hope, plus proper NBA depth in front of said hope.

Jez2983 · Post #226 » by **Jez2983** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:48 pm

Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Shaffty wrote:

he was comparing the vibes in the lockerrooms not who the teams run pre season

Some players get along better with specific coaches. Brook loves Bud and spoke about how he met with him and spoke with him several times this summer. I'm glad the players seemingly like AG so far, heck I'd hope they would considering it's his first camp. Will Crowder and Bobby still like AG if AG benches them in the playoffs? I'm sure AGs style is quite different than it was under Bud, that doesn't necessarily make it better or worse though. We know what Bud did harvested success for this team, and I'm hopeful AG will too. There isn't just one way to win in the NBA so hopefully AG can do that because this year is title or bust for this squad and anything short will be considered a failure.

Werent their also rumors that brook wasnt all to happy with bud with the O that was rum and wanted more of a role on D.I question if brooks even resigns if bud is back.Think after miami just a hunch some vet players werent to happy with buds approach

I think I know what you are talking about, it was stuff came out when Brook and Houston were apparently courting. I'd say that describing Brook as 'unhappy' is a bit strong, potentially more that he felt underutilized and that he could have been a difference-maker in the Miami series. And in fairness, I think he was correct. I suspect the level of relationship guys like Brook and Giannis had with Bud were that they were happy to voice their displeasure, but I'm not sure it should be characterized as pouting.

Shaffty · Post #227 » by **Shaffty** » Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:53 pm

Jez2983 wrote:
Daver wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Some players get along better with specific coaches. Brook loves Bud and spoke about how he met with him and spoke with him several times this summer. I'm glad the players seemingly like AG so far, heck I'd hope they would considering it's his first camp. Will Crowder and Bobby still like AG if AG benches them in the playoffs? I'm sure AGs style is quite different than it was under Bud, that doesn't necessarily make it better or worse though. We know what Bud did harvested success for this team, and I'm hopeful AG will too. There isn't just one way to win in the NBA so hopefully AG can do that because this year is title or bust for this squad and anything short will be considered a failure.

Werent their also rumors that brook wasnt all to happy with bud with the O that was rum and wanted more of a role on D.I question if brooks even resigns if bud is back.Think after miami just a hunch some vet players werent to happy with buds approach

I think I know what you are talking about, it was stuff came out when Brook and Houston were apparently courting. I'd say that describing Brook as 'unhappy' is a bit strong, potentially more that he felt underutilized and that he could have been a difference-maker in the Miami series. And in fairness, I think he was correct. I suspect the level of relationship guys like Brook and Giannis had with Bud were that they were happy to voice their displeasure, but I'm not sure it should be characterized as pouting.

pretty sure that was all just agent posturing

emunney · Post #228 » by **emunney** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:54 am

Jez2983 wrote:I didn't want to start an argument on how good Nwora is, lol.

It's more that really, he's just an average (at best) NBA player, and we were pinning a lot of hope on him. This year, we've got hope, plus proper NBA depth in front of said hope.

The Nwora argument never really ends and never really started. It is there always, in the space between our thoughts, neither awake nor asleep, neither alive nor dead, only shooting, shooting, shooting.

crowhead76 · Post #229 » by **crowhead76** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:26 pm

mcfromage · Post #230 » by **mcfromage** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:35 pm

I think I’m in on that

MVP2110 · Post #231 » by **MVP2110** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:39 pm

Yea I'd probably do that

German Athens · Post #232 » by **German Athens** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:39 pm

crowhead76 wrote:Bucks in: AJ Griffin
Hawks in: Siakim
Raptors in: Beauchamp, Livingston, Hunter, Mills, Hawks 2024 1st

Lillard | Payne | Washington (2way)
Griffin | Beasley | Green | Moore (2way)
Middleton | Pat | Jackson Jr
Giannis | Crowder | Thanasis
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

Why wouldn’t the raptors just take griffin and cut us out?

emunney · Post #233 » by **emunney** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 2:41 pm

Just not sure it's a great idea to get the coach's son, though I do like AJ.

Ron Swanson · Post #234 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:01 pm

- Trade for AJ Griffin
- Sign Kostas and Keljin Blevins to the Herd
- Draft Bronny and sign Lebron in 2024

Shaffty · Post #235 » by **Shaffty** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 3:25 pm

crowhead76 wrote:Bucks in: AJ Griffin
Hawks in: Siakim
Raptors in: Beauchamp, Livingston, Hunter, Mills, Hawks 2024 1st

Lillard | Payne | Washington (2way)
Griffin | Beasley | Green | Moore (2way)
Middleton | Pat | Jackson Jr
Giannis | Crowder | Thanasis
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

why would the raptors do that. wouldn't they just take AJ Griffin instead of Beauchamp/Livingston?

emunney · Post #236 » by **emunney** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:42 pm

Shaffty wrote:
crowhead76 wrote:Bucks in: AJ Griffin
Hawks in: Siakim
Raptors in: Beauchamp, Livingston, Hunter, Mills, Hawks 2024 1st

Lillard | Payne | Washington (2way)
Griffin | Beasley | Green | Moore (2way)
Middleton | Pat | Jackson Jr
Giannis | Crowder | Thanasis
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

why would the raptors do that. wouldn't they just take AJ Griffin instead of Beauchamp/Livingston?

If they wanted Griffin wouldn't the Hawks already have Siakam? Not that I think they want Beauchamp and Livingston.

Matches Malone · Post #237 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:58 pm

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Shaffty · Post #238 » by **Shaffty** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:25 pm

emunney wrote:
Shaffty wrote:
crowhead76 wrote:Bucks in: AJ Griffin
Hawks in: Siakim
Raptors in: Beauchamp, Livingston, Hunter, Mills, Hawks 2024 1st

Lillard | Payne | Washington (2way)
Griffin | Beasley | Green | Moore (2way)
Middleton | Pat | Jackson Jr
Giannis | Crowder | Thanasis
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

why would the raptors do that. wouldn't they just take AJ Griffin instead of Beauchamp/Livingston?

If they wanted Griffin wouldn't the Hawks already have Siakam? Not that I think they want Beauchamp and Livingston.

who knows what masai is thinking man

emunney · Post #239 » by **emunney** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:28 pm

Shaffty wrote:
emunney wrote:
Shaffty wrote:

why would the raptors do that. wouldn't they just take AJ Griffin instead of Beauchamp/Livingston?

If they wanted Griffin wouldn't the Hawks already have Siakam? Not that I think they want Beauchamp and Livingston.

who knows what masai is thinking man

As a long time stan, I have to admit he's been **** up for years.

SupremeHustle · Post #240 » by **SupremeHustle** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:31 pm

I like that you guys are putting Beauchamp in trades.