Miami Heat 2023/2024 Training Camp and Regular Season Thread

[SerialChiller]

I got some scoopage from my guy who was also the one who told me about Strus signing with the Cavs the day before it happened.
Doesn't currently concern the Heat but *maybe* Riley and Andy can take advantage of their situation between now and the deadline.

Allegedly there is a potential mess brewing in Utah between the FO (Ainge) and their coaching staff. Ainge has been grating on everybody/sticking his nose everywhere including in the coaching decisions which is a reason Fizdale went running out of Utah after one season. Ainge has even been dictating minutes for players. He didn't listen to his HC who did NOT want John Collins but Ainge can't help himself when it comes to hoarding assets. Their HC also pleaded for a pure/vet PG to replace Conley but Ainge has the roster littered with something like 5 combo scoring guards who all expect minutes. They have a new younger owner who has also been sticking his nose into things which is why they resigned his buddy Clarkson to a big upfront contract but they now want him to take a backseat to some of the kids on the roster. Nobody is happy and I'm assuming they are going to make several deals just to get out of some of those contracts namely John Collins who does not fit at all next to their young center Walker Kessler. Kessler might have to go back to the bench just to accommodate Collins. They like all their draft picks but don't have minutes for them including the PF they just picked at #9. They likely end up dealing a big chunk of their roster by the deadline like they did last season and the players already know it. Last season Lakers made it to the WC Finals after getting some players in a trade at the deadline.

Point being there are some potentially good rotation pieces including Sexton, Clarkson, Olynyk and Collins that could be had by the deadline. Alot of it might depend on whether the Heat organization is willing to swap out a huge expiring contract for longer deals. Riley would obviously need to hold his nose to deal with Ainge and a few of those players are repped by Klutch.

Hearing this kind of stuff really makes it so much easier to appreciate the job Riley has done in Miami. Pat runs a really tight ship so the info that comes out typically comes from other teams.

I can buy this.

And Sexton is the only name mentioned that would interest me, he might be underrated and we have a big hole at PG

I'd also take Olynyk back any day.

[KingDavid]

This the roster for me at this stage.

Herro/Lowry/Anything else
JRich/Jaquez/Robinson
Butler/Martin/Highsmith
Love/Jovic/Swider
Bam/Bryant/Robinson

I don't want to see Dru Smith on this team, we've tried this for the last 2+yrs and it's just not working out. Don't feel very confident with Hampton either from what I've seen, he needs time in the G-League to develop how he's going to be able to play in our system. I would 100% take whatever John Wall has left over Dru Smith as our 3rd string PG at this point. I don't trust Dru with the ball at all.

Sign Swider to a contract, Waive Dru Smith, sign Wall and give Cain, RJ Hampton and Peterson 2-Way contracts and send them to the G-League.

Then see what develops at the trade deadline.

Agreed but swider seems like he's ready to play in our system. But that will be more apparent as the preseason trudges along.

[KingDavid]

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Welp, we're getting slaughtered. Webby is gonna get 35-45.

[KingDavid]

I got some scoopage from my guy who was also the one who told me about Strus signing with the Cavs the day before it happened.
Doesn't currently concern the Heat but *maybe* Riley and Andy can take advantage of their situation between now and the deadline.

Allegedly there is a potential mess brewing in Utah between the FO (Ainge) and their coaching staff. Ainge has been grating on everybody/sticking his nose everywhere including in the coaching decisions which is a reason Fizdale went running out of Utah after one season. Ainge has even been dictating minutes for players. He didn't listen to his HC who did NOT want John Collins but Ainge can't help himself when it comes to hoarding assets. Their HC also pleaded for a pure/vet PG to replace Conley but Ainge has the roster littered with something like 5 combo scoring guards who all expect minutes. They have a new younger owner who has also been sticking his nose into things which is why they resigned his buddy Clarkson to a big upfront contract but they now want him to take a backseat to some of the kids on the roster. Nobody is happy and I'm assuming they are going to make several deals just to get out of some of those contracts namely John Collins who does not fit at all next to their young center Walker Kessler. Kessler might have to go back to the bench just to accommodate Collins. They like all their draft picks but don't have minutes for them including the PF they just picked at #9. They likely end up dealing a big chunk of their roster by the deadline like they did last season and the players already know it. Last season Lakers made it to the WC Finals after getting some players in a trade at the deadline.

Point being there are some potentially good rotation pieces including Sexton, Clarkson, Olynyk and Collins that could be had by the deadline. Alot of it might depend on whether the Heat organization is willing to swap out a huge expiring contract for longer deals. Riley would obviously need to hold his nose to deal with Ainge and a few of those players are repped by Klutch.

Hearing this kind of stuff really makes it so much easier to appreciate the job Riley has done in Miami. Pat runs a really tight ship so the info that comes out typically comes from other teams.

Sexton & Collins for Herro, Lowry, Caleb and a few firsts? Sign John Wall and we're set. Would miss df outta them though.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I got some scoopage from my guy who was also the one who told me about Strus signing with the Cavs the day before it happened.
Doesn't currently concern the Heat but *maybe* Riley and Andy can take advantage of their situation between now and the deadline.

Allegedly there is a potential mess brewing in Utah between the FO (Ainge) and their coaching staff. Ainge has been grating on everybody/sticking his nose everywhere including in the coaching decisions which is a reason Fizdale went running out of Utah after one season. Ainge has even been dictating minutes for players. He didn't listen to his HC who did NOT want John Collins but Ainge can't help himself when it comes to hoarding assets. Their HC also pleaded for a pure/vet PG to replace Conley but Ainge has the roster littered with something like 5 combo scoring guards who all expect minutes. They have a new younger owner who has also been sticking his nose into things which is why they resigned his buddy Clarkson to a big upfront contract but they now want him to take a backseat to some of the kids on the roster. Nobody is happy and I'm assuming they are going to make several deals just to get out of some of those contracts namely John Collins who does not fit at all next to their young center Walker Kessler. Kessler might have to go back to the bench just to accommodate Collins. They like all their draft picks but don't have minutes for them including the PF they just picked at #9. They likely end up dealing a big chunk of their roster by the deadline like they did last season and the players already know it. Last season Lakers made it to the WC Finals after getting some players in a trade at the deadline.

Point being there are some potentially good rotation pieces including Sexton, Clarkson, Olynyk and Collins that could be had by the deadline. Alot of it might depend on whether the Heat organization is willing to swap out a huge expiring contract for longer deals. Riley would obviously need to hold his nose to deal with Ainge and a few of those players are repped by Klutch.

Hearing this kind of stuff really makes it so much easier to appreciate the job Riley has done in Miami. Pat runs a really tight ship so the info that comes out typically comes from other teams.

Sexton & Collins for Herro, Lowry, Caleb and a few firsts? Sign John Wall and we're set. Would miss df outta them though.

[gom]

I got some scoopage from my guy who was also the one who told me about Strus signing with the Cavs the day before it happened.
Doesn't currently concern the Heat but *maybe* Riley and Andy can take advantage of their situation between now and the deadline.

Allegedly there is a potential mess brewing in Utah between the FO (Ainge) and their coaching staff. Ainge has been grating on everybody/sticking his nose everywhere including in the coaching decisions which is a reason Fizdale went running out of Utah after one season. Ainge has even been dictating minutes for players. He didn't listen to his HC who did NOT want John Collins but Ainge can't help himself when it comes to hoarding assets. Their HC also pleaded for a pure/vet PG to replace Conley but Ainge has the roster littered with something like 5 combo scoring guards who all expect minutes. They have a new younger owner who has also been sticking his nose into things which is why they resigned his buddy Clarkson to a big upfront contract but they now want him to take a backseat to some of the kids on the roster. Nobody is happy and I'm assuming they are going to make several deals just to get out of some of those contracts namely John Collins who does not fit at all next to their young center Walker Kessler. Kessler might have to go back to the bench just to accommodate Collins. They like all their draft picks but don't have minutes for them including the PF they just picked at #9. They likely end up dealing a big chunk of their roster by the deadline like they did last season and the players already know it. Last season Lakers made it to the WC Finals after getting some players in a trade at the deadline.

Point being there are some potentially good rotation pieces including Sexton, Clarkson, Olynyk and Collins that could be had by the deadline. Alot of it might depend on whether the Heat organization is willing to swap out a huge expiring contract for longer deals. Riley would obviously need to hold his nose to deal with Ainge and a few of those players are repped by Klutch.

Hearing this kind of stuff really makes it so much easier to appreciate the job Riley has done in Miami. Pat runs a really tight ship so the info that comes out typically comes from other teams.

Sexton & Collins for Herro, Lowry, Caleb and a few firsts? Sign John Wall and we're set. Would miss df outta them though.

Stop undervaluing our players please.

[gom]

I got some scoopage from my guy who was also the one who told me about Strus signing with the Cavs the day before it happened.
Doesn't currently concern the Heat but *maybe* Riley and Andy can take advantage of their situation between now and the deadline.

Allegedly there is a potential mess brewing in Utah between the FO (Ainge) and their coaching staff. Ainge has been grating on everybody/sticking his nose everywhere including in the coaching decisions which is a reason Fizdale went running out of Utah after one season. Ainge has even been dictating minutes for players. He didn't listen to his HC who did NOT want John Collins but Ainge can't help himself when it comes to hoarding assets. Their HC also pleaded for a pure/vet PG to replace Conley but Ainge has the roster littered with something like 5 combo scoring guards who all expect minutes. They have a new younger owner who has also been sticking his nose into things which is why they resigned his buddy Clarkson to a big upfront contract but they now want him to take a backseat to some of the kids on the roster. Nobody is happy and I'm assuming they are going to make several deals just to get out of some of those contracts namely John Collins who does not fit at all next to their young center Walker Kessler. Kessler might have to go back to the bench just to accommodate Collins. They like all their draft picks but don't have minutes for them including the PF they just picked at #9. They likely end up dealing a big chunk of their roster by the deadline like they did last season and the players already know it. Last season Lakers made it to the WC Finals after getting some players in a trade at the deadline.

Point being there are some potentially good rotation pieces including Sexton, Clarkson, Olynyk and Collins that could be had by the deadline. Alot of it might depend on whether the Heat organization is willing to swap out a huge expiring contract for longer deals. Riley would obviously need to hold his nose to deal with Ainge and a few of those players are repped by Klutch.

Hearing this kind of stuff really makes it so much easier to appreciate the job Riley has done in Miami. Pat runs a really tight ship so the info that comes out typically comes from other teams.

Taylor Hendricks. He's going to challenge for a roster space. I doubt Colliins will have much chance.

[Bishop45]

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Welp, we're getting slaughtered. Webby is gonna get 35-45.

Not on Swider's watch

[Shewasfly]

I got some scoopage from my guy who was also the one who told me about Strus signing with the Cavs the day before it happened.
Doesn't currently concern the Heat but *maybe* Riley and Andy can take advantage of their situation between now and the deadline.

Allegedly there is a potential mess brewing in Utah between the FO (Ainge) and their coaching staff. Ainge has been grating on everybody/sticking his nose everywhere including in the coaching decisions which is a reason Fizdale went running out of Utah after one season. Ainge has even been dictating minutes for players. He didn't listen to his HC who did NOT want John Collins but Ainge can't help himself when it comes to hoarding assets. Their HC also pleaded for a pure/vet PG to replace Conley but Ainge has the roster littered with something like 5 combo scoring guards who all expect minutes. They have a new younger owner who has also been sticking his nose into things which is why they resigned his buddy Clarkson to a big upfront contract but they now want him to take a backseat to some of the kids on the roster. Nobody is happy and I'm assuming they are going to make several deals just to get out of some of those contracts namely John Collins who does not fit at all next to their young center Walker Kessler. Kessler might have to go back to the bench just to accommodate Collins. They like all their draft picks but don't have minutes for them including the PF they just picked at #9. They likely end up dealing a big chunk of their roster by the deadline like they did last season and the players already know it. Last season Lakers made it to the WC Finals after getting some players in a trade at the deadline.

Point being there are some potentially good rotation pieces including Sexton, Clarkson, Olynyk and Collins that could be had by the deadline. Alot of it might depend on whether the Heat organization is willing to swap out a huge expiring contract for longer deals. Riley would obviously need to hold his nose to deal with Ainge and a few of those players are repped by Klutch.

Hearing this kind of stuff really makes it so much easier to appreciate the job Riley has done in Miami. Pat runs a really tight ship so the info that comes out typically comes from other teams.

Sexton & Collins for Herro, Lowry, Caleb and a few firsts? Sign John Wall and we're set. Would miss df outta them though.

Hell of a way to come out as a Utah Jazz fan.

[powerball1373]

Did I miss a post about this? Is there no more Dame trade thread?

Dames dbag agent and probably Fentress' fat dork ass ruined it.

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[JRoy]

Did I miss a post about this? Is there no more Dame trade thread?

Dames dbag agent and probably Fentress' fat dork ass ruined it.

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If true that’s pretty funny.

[Bourne85]

Watching Portland game, I think all that “We don’t need Herro” stuff was dumb. I see nothing special in Sharpe or Simons. Herro as much as I don’t really care for him, is clearly better player than both of them. Scoot is too soon to judge but so far, haven’t seen anything special there either. Just cause Portland has a bunch of guards doesn’t mean those guys were better than Herro. Quality over quantity.

Ayton is another overpaid bum. I think Portland is screwed for years to come. Unless Scoot becomes an all star quick I don’t see them doing anything for the foreseeable future.

[MorbidHEAT]

Did I miss a post about this? Is there no more Dame trade thread?

Dames dbag agent and probably Fentress' fat dork ass ruined it.

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This could just be damage control from Portland after Dame's interview.

Regardless, it was a risky play by Dame's agent and it didn't work out. There was always the possibility when you are going public, like he did, that what he desired would fail spectacularly.

[Umbooki]

As a huge John Wall fan, I must inform you that John Wall is cooked. We’re like 8 years late to that party

[KingDavid]

I got some scoopage from my guy who was also the one who told me about Strus signing with the Cavs the day before it happened.
Doesn't currently concern the Heat but *maybe* Riley and Andy can take advantage of their situation between now and the deadline.

Allegedly there is a potential mess brewing in Utah between the FO (Ainge) and their coaching staff. Ainge has been grating on everybody/sticking his nose everywhere including in the coaching decisions which is a reason Fizdale went running out of Utah after one season. Ainge has even been dictating minutes for players. He didn't listen to his HC who did NOT want John Collins but Ainge can't help himself when it comes to hoarding assets. Their HC also pleaded for a pure/vet PG to replace Conley but Ainge has the roster littered with something like 5 combo scoring guards who all expect minutes. They have a new younger owner who has also been sticking his nose into things which is why they resigned his buddy Clarkson to a big upfront contract but they now want him to take a backseat to some of the kids on the roster. Nobody is happy and I'm assuming they are going to make several deals just to get out of some of those contracts namely John Collins who does not fit at all next to their young center Walker Kessler. Kessler might have to go back to the bench just to accommodate Collins. They like all their draft picks but don't have minutes for them including the PF they just picked at #9. They likely end up dealing a big chunk of their roster by the deadline like they did last season and the players already know it. Last season Lakers made it to the WC Finals after getting some players in a trade at the deadline.

Point being there are some potentially good rotation pieces including Sexton, Clarkson, Olynyk and Collins that could be had by the deadline. Alot of it might depend on whether the Heat organization is willing to swap out a huge expiring contract for longer deals. Riley would obviously need to hold his nose to deal with Ainge and a few of those players are repped by Klutch.

Hearing this kind of stuff really makes it so much easier to appreciate the job Riley has done in Miami. Pat runs a really tight ship so the info that comes out typically comes from other teams.

Sexton & Collins for Herro, Lowry, Caleb and a few firsts? Sign John Wall and we're set. Would miss df outta them though.

Hell of a way to come out as a Utah Jazz fan.

I was inebriated. I think I'm a jazz fan when I'm high.

[fishfuego.]

I got some scoopage from my guy who was also the one who told me about Strus signing with the Cavs the day before it happened.
Doesn't currently concern the Heat but *maybe* Riley and Andy can take advantage of their situation between now and the deadline.

Allegedly there is a potential mess brewing in Utah between the FO (Ainge) and their coaching staff. Ainge has been grating on everybody/sticking his nose everywhere including in the coaching decisions which is a reason Fizdale went running out of Utah after one season. Ainge has even been dictating minutes for players. He didn't listen to his HC who did NOT want John Collins but Ainge can't help himself when it comes to hoarding assets. Their HC also pleaded for a pure/vet PG to replace Conley but Ainge has the roster littered with something like 5 combo scoring guards who all expect minutes. They have a new younger owner who has also been sticking his nose into things which is why they resigned his buddy Clarkson to a big upfront contract but they now want him to take a backseat to some of the kids on the roster. Nobody is happy and I'm assuming they are going to make several deals just to get out of some of those contracts namely John Collins who does not fit at all next to their young center Walker Kessler. Kessler might have to go back to the bench just to accommodate Collins. They like all their draft picks but don't have minutes for them including the PF they just picked at #9. They likely end up dealing a big chunk of their roster by the deadline like they did last season and the players already know it. Last season Lakers made it to the WC Finals after getting some players in a trade at the deadline.

Point being there are some potentially good rotation pieces including Sexton, Clarkson, Olynyk and Collins that could be had by the deadline. Alot of it might depend on whether the Heat organization is willing to swap out a huge expiring contract for longer deals. Riley would obviously need to hold his nose to deal with Ainge and a few of those players are repped by Klutch.

Hearing this kind of stuff really makes it so much easier to appreciate the job Riley has done in Miami. Pat runs a really tight ship so the info that comes out typically comes from other teams.

Sexton & Collins for Herro, Lowry, Caleb and a few firsts? Sign John Wall and we're set. Would miss df outta them though.

Stop undervaluing our players please.

[fishfuego.]

Did I miss a post about this? Is there no more Dame trade thread?

Dames dbag agent and probably Fentress' fat dork ass ruined it.

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This could just be damage control from Portland after Dame's interview.

Regardless, it was a risky play by Dame's agent and it didn't work out. There was always the possibility when you are going public, like he did, that what he desired would fail spectacularly.

Exactly damage control.
They burnt forever bridges by taking things to an extreme personal level.

[JRoy]

Watching Portland game, I think all that “We don’t need Herro” stuff was dumb. I see nothing special in Sharpe or Simons. Herro as much as I don’t really care for him, is clearly better player than both of them. Scoot is too soon to judge but so far, haven’t seen anything special there either. Just cause Portland has a bunch of guards doesn’t mean those guys were better than Herro. Quality over quantity.

Ayton is another overpaid bum. I think Portland is screwed for years to come. Unless Scoot becomes an all star quick I don’t see them doing anything for the foreseeable future.

Simons and Herro are equivalent.

Don’t want or need Herro. Still.

[AirP.]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Why the fuxk are fans of that poverty organization in Portland still lingering around here?