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Post#101 » by MARK_POPE » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:06 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:Joe Prunty going to be coach of the year and help us win our 3rd Chip after Griff gets fired mid season


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Post#102 » by ejn1214 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:06 pm

Pure speculation, but feels like something sudden and guessing personal. Both have been around for awhile. I can't believe Stotts forgot what coaching entails and doesn't like it, and I also doubt they coaching differences that lead to this. If it is coaching differences, that is awful from a GM standpoint not hashing that out before the hire of Stotts. Seems very unprofessional of Stotts to quite right before the season if it's that as well.
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Post#103 » by Wonka » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:07 pm

Practices seem to be getting toxic, Stotts is leaving and the pressure is higher than ever. Not liking the Griffin vibes thus far.
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Post#104 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:08 pm

Wonka wrote:Practices seem to be getting toxic, Stotts is leaving and the pressure is higher than ever. Not liking the Griffin vibes thus far.


Huh?
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Post#105 » by JayMKE » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:09 pm

Rstuedes24 wrote:Also great that the seasons less than 2 weeks out, guys were learning Stotts system and now will have to likely switch a lot of stuff up


I'm not getting the impression of there being any system
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Post#106 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:09 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:Why are people assuming Griffin is the bad guy here?

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Post#107 » by Prez » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:11 pm

Wonka wrote:Practices seem to be getting toxic, Stotts is leaving and the pressure is higher than ever. Not liking the Griffin vibes thus far.

What? Everything I have seen from the player interviews is that they *love* the added intensity/competitiveness in practices. Giannis, Bobby, Jae have all spoken about how much they like it, and in some cases kinda taken shots at how practices were ran previously.
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Post#108 » by Wonka » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:11 pm

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Wonka wrote:Practices seem to be getting toxic, Stotts is leaving and the pressure is higher than ever. Not liking the Griffin vibes thus far.


Huh?


We’ve gone from a practice environment based off of mutual respect to one where guys are talking **** to each other, getting in each others faces in practice, etc. You can hide it under the guise of “competitiveness” all you want, but I’m just not buying into Griffin just because he says the right things.
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Post#109 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:12 pm

Wonka wrote:
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Wonka wrote:Practices seem to be getting toxic, Stotts is leaving and the pressure is higher than ever. Not liking the Griffin vibes thus far.


Huh?


We’ve gone from a practice environment based off of mutual respect to one where guys are talking **** to each other, getting in each others faces in practice, etc. You can hide it under the guise of “competitiveness” all you want, but I’m just not buying into Griffin just because he says the right things.

What the **** are you talking about? lmao
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Post#110 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:13 pm

Wonka wrote:
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Wonka wrote:Practices seem to be getting toxic, Stotts is leaving and the pressure is higher than ever. Not liking the Griffin vibes thus far.


Huh?


We’ve gone from a practice environment based off of mutual respect to one where guys are talking **** to each other, getting in each others faces in practice, etc. You can hide it under the guise of “competitiveness” all you want, but I’m just not buying into Griffin just because he says the right things.


Yeah, this definitely isn't a thing dude lol.
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Post#111 » by Prez » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:13 pm

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Wonka wrote:Practices seem to be getting toxic, Stotts is leaving and the pressure is higher than ever. Not liking the Griffin vibes thus far.


Huh?


We’ve gone from a practice environment based off of mutual respect to one where guys are talking **** to each other, getting in each others faces in practice, etc. You can hide it under the guise of “competitiveness” all you want, but I’m just not buying into Griffin just because he says the right things.

You need to go watch the player interviews during training camp, especially Giannis. He raved about that exact new environment of competitiveness/**** talking. You’re taking something that the players themselves have pretty consistently mentioned as a positive and framing it as a negative?
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Post#112 » by LUKE23 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:14 pm

My best guess is Stotts wanted a Lillard-centric offense with GA being primarily a screener and off ball mover, and AG wanted to center around GA. Just a guess. Obviously I’m on Stotts side if that’s the case. I do not have a good feeling about AG.
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Post#113 » by kanyon » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:14 pm

Profound23 wrote:Is coach Bud available?

We just hired Stotts to recruit Dame, now that we have Dame Stotts is not needed.


I mean, this is what Jimmy Butler and whoever is gonna say as a conspiracy theory.

The funny thing is, outside of Milwaukee, it looks like people are saying Dame may have NOT wanted Stotts. Weird. Perception is everything. Guess it's too early to say.
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Post#114 » by jimmybones » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:17 pm

Regardless of how we got here, this sucks. A lot of us were made much more comfortable with the AG hiring due to Stotts as an offensive coordinator and experienced voice to AG's defensive coordinator.

There is a potential outcome of AG being a fantastic coach and this not mattering or even being a good thing, but damn it felt more comfortable with Stotts on board as insurance in case that's not the outcome.
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Post#115 » by Wonka » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:17 pm

Prez wrote:
Wonka wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
Huh?


We’ve gone from a practice environment based off of mutual respect to one where guys are talking **** to each other, getting in each others faces in practice, etc. You can hide it under the guise of “competitiveness” all you want, but I’m just not buying into Griffin just because he says the right things.

You need to go watch the player interviews during training camp, especially Giannis. He raved about that exact new environment of competitiveness/**** talking. You’re taking something that the players themselves have pretty consistently mentioned as a positive and framing it as a negative?


I think it’s understandable that all those quotes came out. New energy is always exciting. I just wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some negatives that come with it too. Not saying there’s going to be a Draymond-Poole situation or anything but I think there’s a lot that could happen with some of our personalities lol.
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Post#116 » by sidney lanier » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:18 pm

I'm not ready to jump to the organizational dysfunction conclusion. It could be, I guess, but the fact that Woj got no "spend more time with family" or "personal issues" cover story makes it less likely, I think.

But even if it comes out that AG is an abrasive prick who drove the mild-mannered Stotts away, I'm willing to suspend judgment on him. According to Leo Durocher, where do nice guys finish again?
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Post#117 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:18 pm

Wonka, you're reaching so far for something that is completely a figment of your imagination.
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Post#118 » by JayMKE » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:18 pm

Giannis loved Jason Kidd too tho, he might just be a psychopath who thrives in a toxic environment but I'm not sure that's going to work with everybody else or be the place guys want to play. It's a lot of speculation right now, we gotta get a detailed explanation as to what actually happened. I do agree that Griffin being hired does seem like it was contingent on signing an experienced offensive minded lead assistant, its a bad look for Horst right now and I wonder how it will effect the team.
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Post#119 » by MVP2110 » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:19 pm

Wonka wrote:
Prez wrote:
Wonka wrote:
We’ve gone from a practice environment based off of mutual respect to one where guys are talking **** to each other, getting in each others faces in practice, etc. You can hide it under the guise of “competitiveness” all you want, but I’m just not buying into Griffin just because he says the right things.

You need to go watch the player interviews during training camp, especially Giannis. He raved about that exact new environment of competitiveness/**** talking. You’re taking something that the players themselves have pretty consistently mentioned as a positive and framing it as a negative?


I think it’s understandable that all those quotes came out. New energy is always exciting. I just wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some negatives that come with it too. Not saying there’s going to be a Draymond-Poole situation or anything but I think there’s a lot that could happen with some of our personalities lol.


Yea camp excitement under a new coach is basically always a thing. I try not read too much into puff pieces that come out during camp
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Post#120 » by Wonka » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:20 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:Wonka, you're reaching so far for something that is completely a figment of your imagination.


That’s my anxiety. I go to worst case scenario and my worse case scenario is that AG is going to ruin my favorite thing in the world lol.

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