Stotts Steps Down

[RiotPunch]

This doesn't feel good. Where are our "sources" posters?

Hopefully

Epicurus

has a scoop.

[RiotPunch]

Why are people assuming Griffin is the bad guy here?

He may not be the bad guy and should be in control of the staff from hiring to getting them on-board with his plans. That clearly did not happen.

I think Horst insisted on Stotts as a 4D Chess move for Dame that also provided some veteran guidance for Griff. Dame worked out but the meshing of Griff/Stotts did not.

[Wonka]

Wonka, you're reaching so far for something that is completely a figment of your imagination.

People who automatically think this way generally are toxic in their own right.


There would need to be some serious dysfunction for Stotts to step down so soon.

I’m toxic as a person for speculating about a coach? You don’t know anything about me dude. Try having some basic respect if you want a dialogue.

[JonHeist]

I'm getting some horrendously bad vibes from this tbh

nobody will care or remember if we start 8-0 though

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Griffin has yet to coach one game. Anyone positive about him is blind optimism and anyone negative about him is blind pessimism.

Or we can wait to see some actual results (shrug).

Aren't you supposed to promote traffic and conversation as a moderator? GTFO and let us speculate

[CharityStripe34]

Odd timing. Hopefully he is in good health.

[Daver]

Griffin has yet to coach one game. Anyone positive about him is blind optimism and anyone negative about him is blind pessimism.

Or we can wait to see some actual results (shrug).

Starting a guy who got benched in the playoffs, changing the role of the DPOY running up, losing your #2 on the job are all pretty negative things imo.

FFS maybe beasley has earned it stop it other than the fact you dont like beas maybe just maybe beas earned the starting gig

[Prez]

It would be real cool if we had any reporter/journalist that wasn’t worthless and could provide more details on this.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Hell of a way for Griffin to put even more pressure on himself heading into the season if the friction stuff turns out to be true. Team was already championship or bust, but if they don't win it this season then I'd argue that he might/should be a one-and-done coach. You have a two, maybe three year window with this core (Dame/Giannis/Khris/Brook) and you can't waste any of it with a coach who's in over his head.

At what point do we consider mid-season candidates? I would say even wasting a year would be too much since next off-season is the decision point.

ETA: Not saying we are there, but if we aren't Top 3 in February I think you have to considering cutting bait.

[ShootingtheJ]

What have Edens and Horst done that makes you think they would do an all encompassing search and get it spectacularly wrong?

Well it starts with the reports that Griffin wasn't the first choice of the Front Office and ownership but he's who Giannis wanted

Except Giannis' comments the very next month that set all the "he's leaving" talk into a frenzy seemed to douse cold water on that.

That was a work to drive up the value of our future first. Not a coincidence that Giannis did that both times right before a trade. It's why Horst laughs every time he's asked about Giannis comments.

[dbrodz7]

It would be real cool if we had any reporter/journalist that wasn’t worthless and could provide more details on this.

Nehm is too busy doing a WNBA film breakdown.

[jimmybones]

If Giannis is the catalyst for Stotts resigning because he thinks he’s Kobe and doesn’t want to play off ball I will burn the Fiserv to the ground.

This is my nightmare

[ShootingtheJ]

All I know is this was a dream collaboration, and now it's gone.

[MVP2110]

Griffin has yet to coach one game. Anyone positive about him is blind optimism and anyone negative about him is blind pessimism.

Or we can wait to see some actual results (shrug).

Starting a guy who got benched in the playoffs, changing the role of the DPOY running up, losing your #2 on the job are all pretty negative things imo.

FFS maybe beasley has earned it stop it other than the fact you dont like beas maybe just maybe beas earned the starting gig

I wanted to give Griff the benefit of the doubt. But he hasn't done anything yet to show me he knows what he's doing. 13 other teams passed on hiring him and he was reportedly not the top choice of our front office or ownership so why exactly should I trust he knows what he's doing other than blind optimism?

[Ron Swanson]

Well it starts with the reports that Griffin wasn't the first choice of the Front Office and ownership but he's who Giannis wanted

Except Giannis' comments the very next month that set all the "he's leaving" talk into a frenzy seemed to douse cold water on that.

That was a work to drive up the value of our future first. Not a coincidence that Giannia did that both times right before a trade. It's why Horst laughs every time he asked about Giannis comments.

Either way you're choosing to believe a rumor over any substantiated evidence. I was a big Kenny Atkinson guy but there were certainly basketball reasons for choosing Griffin.

[humanrefutation]

Why are people assuming Griffin is the bad guy here?

Speaking for myself, I'm not assuming Griff was in the wrong. I'm still optimistic about him. But it isn't good when your lead assistant who is charged with running your offense leaves a week before the season starts, regardless of why that is.

Terry hasn't been an assistant for a while and perhaps he chafed under Griff's leadership.
Perhaps Terry and Giannis didn't mesh.
Perhaps Terry and Griff didn't mesh.
Perhaps there were other personal reasons.

But at the end of the day, our offensive architect is gone right before the season starts, and that's never a good sign.

[Shaffty]

Perhaps the 65 year old who had been enjoying retirement for 2 years didn't enjoy returning to the grind as much as he thought he would

[humanrefutation]

There is a champion HC who has a well-regarded offensive scheme who is available right now.

And on the plus side, he has familiarity with Milwaukee AND Giannis.

[MVP2110]

Why are people assuming Griffin is the bad guy here?

Speaking for myself, I'm not assuming Griff was in the wrong. I'm still optimistic about him. But it isn't good when your lead assistant who is charged with running your offense leaves a week before the season starts, regardless of why that is.

Terry hasn't been an assistant for a while and perhaps he chafed under Griff's leadership.
Perhaps Terry and Giannis didn't mesh.
Perhaps Terry and Griff didn't mesh.
Perhaps there were other personal reasons.

But at the end of the day, our offensive architect is gone right before the season starts, and that's never a good sign.

This is a great point. Even if you don't want to blame Griff that's fine. Regardless this is a big loss

[chonestown]

Starting a guy who got benched in the playoffs, changing the role of the DPOY running up, losing your #2 on the job are all pretty negative things imo.

FFS maybe beasley has earned it stop it other than the fact you dont like beas maybe just maybe beas earned the starting gig

I wanted to give Griff the benefit of the doubt. But he hasn't done anything yet to show me he knows what he's doing. 13 other teams passed on hiring him and he was reportedly not the top choice of our front office or ownership so why exactly should I trust he knows what he's doing other than blind optimism?

Adrian Griffith's lifetime record as head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks is <fires up diesel-powered modem, inserts AOL cd-rom> 0-0.