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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#61 » by WargamesX » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:19 pm

Synciere wrote:IQ for OG, straight up. I know it’s the raptors but this makes a lot of sense. Not sure why everyone is so willing to give up a pick and sell IQ short but he’s on par with OG skill wise.

Two protected picks for Kuminga. Maybe they can find a use for Fournier but contracts won’t match I don’t think.


I think Jerami Grant to me should be the trade target for the knicks. He is a guy who isn't an all star, but really close. Those type of guys are usually big parts of teams doing well in the playoffs.
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Post#62 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:54 pm

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Synciere wrote:IQ for OG, straight up. I know it’s the raptors but this makes a lot of sense. Not sure why everyone is so willing to give up a pick and sell IQ short but he’s on par with OG skill wise.

Two protected picks for Kuminga. Maybe they can find a use for Fournier but contracts won’t match I don’t think.


I think Jerami Grant to me should be the trade target for the knicks. He is a guy who isn't an all star, but really close. Those type of guys are usually big parts of teams doing well in the playoffs.


That contract is not so great. Five more years left. 37mil player option in the final year. He'll be 35/36 then and he has not played a full season in 4 years. Not sure what his injury history is but it has been an issue of late. 40/50/60 game seasons lately. He's really not that good either. Pass.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#63 » by WargamesX » Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:54 pm

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Synciere wrote:IQ for OG, straight up. I know it’s the raptors but this makes a lot of sense. Not sure why everyone is so willing to give up a pick and sell IQ short but he’s on par with OG skill wise.

Two protected picks for Kuminga. Maybe they can find a use for Fournier but contracts won’t match I don’t think.


I think Jerami Grant to me should be the trade target for the knicks. He is a guy who isn't an all star, but really close. Those type of guys are usually big parts of teams doing well in the playoffs.


That contract is not so great. Five more years left. 37mil player option in the final year. He'll be 35/36 then and he has not played a full season in 4 years. Not sure what his injury history is but it has been an issue of late. 40/50/60 game seasons lately. He's really not that good either. Pass.


He's been sat down a lot because the team was tanking. He would be 34 -35 at the end of his contract, and on the low he would be Randle insurance because in about a year Randle is going to want 50 - 60 at the same time Brunson wants 50 - 60.
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Re: 2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas 

Post#64 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:02 pm

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I think Jerami Grant to me should be the trade target for the knicks. He is a guy who isn't an all star, but really close. Those type of guys are usually big parts of teams doing well in the playoffs.


That contract is not so great. Five more years left. 37mil player option in the final year. He'll be 35/36 then and he has not played a full season in 4 years. Not sure what his injury history is but it has been an issue of late. 40/50/60 game seasons lately. He's really not that good either. Pass.


He's been sat down a lot because the team was tanking. He would be 34 -35 at the end of his contract, and on the low he would be Randle insurance because in about a year Randle is going to want 50 - 60 at the same time Brunson wants 50 - 60.


Randle replacement? hmmm. :lol: Doesn't excite me at all.
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Post#65 » by WargamesX » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:18 pm

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That contract is not so great. Five more years left. 37mil player option in the final year. He'll be 35/36 then and he has not played a full season in 4 years. Not sure what his injury history is but it has been an issue of late. 40/50/60 game seasons lately. He's really not that good either. Pass.


He's been sat down a lot because the team was tanking. He would be 34 -35 at the end of his contract, and on the low he would be Randle insurance because in about a year Randle is going to want 50 - 60 at the same time Brunson wants 50 - 60.


Randle replacement? hmmm. :lol: Doesn't excite me at all.


You say that like you want to pay him 5-year contract that starts at 60 mil a year.... At this point it should be up in the air if he'll get that or not.
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Post#66 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:20 pm

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He's been sat down a lot because the team was tanking. He would be 34 -35 at the end of his contract, and on the low he would be Randle insurance because in about a year Randle is going to want 50 - 60 at the same time Brunson wants 50 - 60.


Randle replacement? hmmm. :lol: Doesn't excite me at all.


You say that like you want to pay him 5-year contract that starts at 60 mil a year.... At this point it should be up in the air if he'll get that or not.


So, Randle for Grant plus picks? That interests me.
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Post#67 » by Synciere » Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:42 pm

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I think Jerami Grant to me should be the trade target for the knicks. He is a guy who isn't an all star, but really close. Those type of guys are usually big parts of teams doing well in the playoffs.


That contract is not so great. Five more years left. 37mil player option in the final year. He'll be 35/36 then and he has not played a full season in 4 years. Not sure what his injury history is but it has been an issue of late. 40/50/60 game seasons lately. He's really not that good either. Pass.


He's been sat down a lot because the team was tanking. He would be 34 -35 at the end of his contract, and on the low he would be Randle insurance because in about a year Randle is going to want 50 - 60 at the same time Brunson wants 50 - 60.


Yeah Grant would be a nice pickup but his contract maxes us out. So unless we have some guys on rookie scale contracts who are absolute studs and All Stars, not sure he’s a fit. What’s crazy is his contract is actually NOT bad at all. We have guys on super maxes making close to 60 million; a starter of his caliber on the wing at 35 is very reasonable. It’s just that Brunson’s next deal will be 50 million if he continues on this trajectory. That said, Grant won’t be available until January, but he may be an option seeing as Portland signed him when they were trying to keep Dame. Let’s add him to the list.

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I also like Grant as a backup 4.
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Post#68 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:19 pm

RJ for OG. Leggoooooooooooooo
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Post#69 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:23 pm

Randle for Siakam plus picks!
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Post#70 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:30 pm

rj for jordan poole
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Post#71 » by omerome » Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:50 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:rj for jordan poole

Moar guards! :D
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Post#72 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:38 pm

The problem with OG is dealing with Gollum. He's gonna ask for the moon. Otherwise, it's a good idea.
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Post#73 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:53 pm

Capn'O wrote:The problem with OG is dealing with Gollum. He's gonna ask for the moon. Otherwise, it's a good idea.


Everyone's gonna be asking for the moon. The money is getting really insane. I can't even keep up with these max deals and supermax deals. It's amazing to me that 19mil per can rot on a bench these days. 40+ mil per to not even play half the contract. It's lunacy.
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Post#74 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:06 pm

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Capn'O wrote:The problem with OG is dealing with Gollum. He's gonna ask for the moon. Otherwise, it's a good idea.


Everyone's gonna be asking for the moon. The money is getting really insane. I can't even keep up with these max deals and supermax deals. It's amazing to me that 19mil per can rot on a bench these days. 40+ mil per to not even play half the contract. It's lunacy.

It's all relative to the cap. Amar'e made over a third of the salary cap with the Knicks. He rarely played and when he did he was a liability. Bargs made about a fifth of the salary cap.

Their 2013-14 salaries adjusted to the 2023-23 salary cap would be:

Amar'e $50.3 million
Bargs $27.5 million

:lol:

We've been through this.
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Post#75 » by Synciere » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:07 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
duetta wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:Randle(28), Grimes(3), I-Hart(9), Fournier(18) and 2FRPs (1 protected) for Towns (36) , Naz Reid (13), Kyle Anderson (9M)

Mitchell Robinson for 2FRPs to use in another trade.

Towns (28), Reid (15), Sims (5)
Naz Reid (15) , Hart (22),Towns (5), Sims (6)
RJ (30), Hart(10), Naz Reid (8)
Quickley (30), DD(18)
Brunson (35), DD(13)


I don't see Towns as better than Randle at this point. Randle plays every game. Towns is a name - but he is injury-prone, suspect on defense, and has a horrible contract.


In theory he is more a needle mover and better fit in this offense with Brunson. Especially if the trade nets both Reid and Towns. The lineup would be much better structured.

Smaller possibility but it could be RJ as rhe centerpiece instead too.


If they trade for Towns it’s to pair him with Randle. The question is whether Towns offense is worth the defensive downgrade.
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Post#76 » by Snacks » Thu Oct 19, 2023 8:54 pm

Tobias & IQ + picks to Bulls
Lavine to NY
Randle/filler to Philly
Siakam for RJ/Fournier + picks


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Post#77 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:38 pm

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Capn'O wrote:The problem with OG is dealing with Gollum. He's gonna ask for the moon. Otherwise, it's a good idea.


Everyone's gonna be asking for the moon. The money is getting really insane. I can't even keep up with these max deals and supermax deals. It's amazing to me that 19mil per can rot on a bench these days. 40+ mil per to not even play half the contract. It's lunacy.

It's all relative to the cap. Amar'e made over a third of the salary cap with the Knicks. He rarely played and when he did he was a liability. Bargs made about a fifth of the salary cap.

Their 2013-14 salaries adjusted to the 2023-23 salary cap would be:

Amar'e $50.3 million
Bargs $27.5 million

:lol:

We've been through this.


Gollum in my post is Masai. He's hoarding long forwards.

Like, in terms of value IQ and OG aren't _that_ far off but the ask will be. We should start putting out those kinds of rumors on our guys. Three unprotecteds as a minimum offer for RJ. How you like that?
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Post#78 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu Oct 19, 2023 9:39 pm

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Everyone's gonna be asking for the moon. The money is getting really insane. I can't even keep up with these max deals and supermax deals. It's amazing to me that 19mil per can rot on a bench these days. 40+ mil per to not even play half the contract. It's lunacy.

It's all relative to the cap. Amar'e made over a third of the salary cap with the Knicks. He rarely played and when he did he was a liability. Bargs made about a fifth of the salary cap.

Their 2013-14 salaries adjusted to the 2023-23 salary cap would be:

Amar'e $50.3 million
Bargs $27.5 million

:lol:

We've been through this.


Gollum in my post is Masai. He's hoarding long forwards.

Like, in terms of value IQ and OG aren't _that_ far off but the ask will be. We should start putting out those kinds of rumors on our guys. Three unprotecteds as a minimum offer for RJ. How you like that?

They just tried with the main man Mitch :lol:
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Post#79 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:02 pm

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Capn'O wrote:The problem with OG is dealing with Gollum. He's gonna ask for the moon. Otherwise, it's a good idea.


Everyone's gonna be asking for the moon. The money is getting really insane. I can't even keep up with these max deals and supermax deals. It's amazing to me that 19mil per can rot on a bench these days. 40+ mil per to not even play half the contract. It's lunacy.


If that's what the players are getting, imagine what the owners must be making. Now that's wealth.
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Post#80 » by Capn'O » Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:24 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:It's all relative to the cap. Amar'e made over a third of the salary cap with the Knicks. He rarely played and when he did he was a liability. Bargs made about a fifth of the salary cap.

Their 2013-14 salaries adjusted to the 2023-23 salary cap would be:

Amar'e $50.3 million
Bargs $27.5 million

:lol:

We've been through this.


Gollum in my post is Masai. He's hoarding long forwards.

Like, in terms of value IQ and OG aren't _that_ far off but the ask will be. We should start putting out those kinds of rumors on our guys. Three unprotecteds as a minimum offer for RJ. How you like that?

They just tried with the main man Mitch :lol:


That's true. And good. Tell 'em it takes heaven and earth to get our guys. Lord knows the Raptors didn't go anywhere last year and they're charging Tomorrow's prices...
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