2025 ATL Thread - Burnes to have TJ surgery

MVP2110 · Post #741 » by **MVP2110** » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:43 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Thunder Muscle wrote:Marlins part ways with Kim Ng. Kind of surprising as felt they were ascending and doing so with limited resources. Wonder what happened.

Edit: Sounded like she declined the option.

It appears she declined the option because Miami wanted to hire a President of Baseball Ops to be above her in the pecking order which seems ridiculous given the success she's had so far

I'm kinda torn here...there are obvious optics issues but on the other hand, most metrics suggest that 85 wins probably was higher than what they actually played to, the Arraez trade probably was bad, Alcantara out next year (not her fault) means things might not get better.

On the other hand, she can't spend much money anyways. Pretty good all things considered...but other teams probably do this to GMs occasionally?

She hasn't been perfect but in 3 years she took them from a annually terrible team to the playoffs. It just seems weird to me to want to hire someone above her. How often does a team's top decision maker get hired over without them being fired?

Post #742 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 4:48 am

MVP2110 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
It appears she declined the option because Miami wanted to hire a President of Baseball Ops to be above her in the pecking order which seems ridiculous given the success she's had so far

I'm kinda torn here...there are obvious optics issues but on the other hand, most metrics suggest that 85 wins probably was higher than what they actually played to, the Arraez trade probably was bad, Alcantara out next year (not her fault) means things might not get better.

On the other hand, she can't spend much money anyways. Pretty good all things considered...but other teams probably do this to GMs occasionally?

She hasn't been perfect but in 3 years she took them from a annually terrible team to the playoffs. It just seems weird to me to want to hire someone above her. How often does a team's top decision maker get hired over without them being fired?

She wasn't responsible for any of the baseball decisions in Miami.

MVP2110 · Post #743 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:51 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
I'm kinda torn here...there are obvious optics issues but on the other hand, most metrics suggest that 85 wins probably was higher than what they actually played to, the Arraez trade probably was bad, Alcantara out next year (not her fault) means things might not get better.

On the other hand, she can't spend much money anyways. Pretty good all things considered...but other teams probably do this to GMs occasionally?

She hasn't been perfect but in 3 years she took them from a annually terrible team to the playoffs. It just seems weird to me to want to hire someone above her. How often does a team's top decision maker get hired over without them being fired?

She wasn't responsible for any of the baseball decisions in Miami.

I'm not sure what you mean. Literally every article I've read says she's leaving because they wanted her to go from being the top decision maker to the #2 under a new President of Baseball Ops

Kerb Hohl · Post #744 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:48 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
It appears she declined the option because Miami wanted to hire a President of Baseball Ops to be above her in the pecking order which seems ridiculous given the success she's had so far

I'm kinda torn here...there are obvious optics issues but on the other hand, most metrics suggest that 85 wins probably was higher than what they actually played to, the Arraez trade probably was bad, Alcantara out next year (not her fault) means things might not get better.

On the other hand, she can't spend much money anyways. Pretty good all things considered...but other teams probably do this to GMs occasionally?

She hasn't been perfect but in 3 years she took them from a annually terrible team to the playoffs. It just seems weird to me to want to hire someone above her. How often does a team's top decision maker get hired over without them being fired?

I don't know, there are always bull power struggles in baseball/sports. Didn't the Astros basically fire their GM after winning the World Series?

MVP2110 · Post #745 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:56 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:
I'm kinda torn here...there are obvious optics issues but on the other hand, most metrics suggest that 85 wins probably was higher than what they actually played to, the Arraez trade probably was bad, Alcantara out next year (not her fault) means things might not get better.

On the other hand, she can't spend much money anyways. Pretty good all things considered...but other teams probably do this to GMs occasionally?

She hasn't been perfect but in 3 years she took them from a annually terrible team to the playoffs. It just seems weird to me to want to hire someone above her. How often does a team's top decision maker get hired over without them being fired?

I don't know, there are always bull power struggles in baseball/sports. Didn't the Astros basically fire their GM after winning the World Series?

That's fair, but to me it'd almost have been better to fire her rather than try to hire somebody above her. That just feels insulting

blazza18 · Post #746 » by **blazza18** » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:29 am

Kinda grateful we didn't get to see the Brewers play in Philly.

Post #747 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:30 pm

I understand third time through the lineup but Pfaadt has completely dominated on just 70 pitches.

Thunder Muscle · Post #748 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:28 pm

The power of losing to the Brewers is fighting through hard. Thought for sure Philly would close it out in Game 6.

Rangers I thought were done too. Kudos to them for battling back. Curious who Astros get as Manager.

Matches Malone · Post #749 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 2:46 am

Looks like the Brewers curse remains. Beat us in the playoffs and you punch your ticket to the WS.

I want off this ride.

Post #750 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:16 am

Read on Twitter

Post #751 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:17 am

Matches Malone wrote:Looks like the Brewers curse remains. Beat us in the playoffs and you punch your ticket to the WS.

I want off this ride.

Expect a banner at AmFam

blazza18 · Post #752 » by **blazza18** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:27 am

Haha I was going to make a joke about the Brewers hanging a banner. Damn you MD.

sidney lanier · Post #753 » by **sidney lanier** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:39 am

Mad Dog Russo really going to retire as he promised to do if the DBacks won the series? I doubt it.

coolhandluke121 · Post #754 » by **coolhandluke121** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 10:57 am

Matches Malone wrote:Looks like the Brewers curse remains. Beat us in the playoffs and you punch your ticket to the WS.

I want off this ride.

What is that, 8 for 10 in franchise history? Although it wasn't such a big deal when only 4 teams made the playoffs, it's a pretty astounding stat now.

trwi7 · Post #755 » by **trwi7** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:14 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Looks like the Brewers curse remains. Beat us in the playoffs and you punch your ticket to the WS.

I want off this ride.

Expect a banner at AmFam

World Series participant by proxy: 2008, 2011, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023

World Series Champion by proxy: 2008, 2011, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023?

Thunder Muscle · Post #756 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 1:45 pm

Rangers with a wild comeback.

coolhandluke121 · Post #757 » by **coolhandluke121** » Wed Nov 1, 2023 6:46 pm

Worst. Ratings. Ever. :lol:

I'm not even sure why I'm happy, but maybe I just enjoy seeing Manfred squirm under the pressure. I'm definitely feeling some type of way about how much less important the regular season has become. And yes, I do realize the playoffs have always been a crapshoot, but getting there wasn't.

Matches Malone · Post #758 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:59 am

Read on Twitter

Thunder Muscle · Post #759 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Thu Nov 2, 2023 5:27 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Worst. Ratings. Ever.

I'm not even sure why I'm happy, but maybe I just enjoy seeing Manfred squirm under the pressure. I'm definitely feeling some type of way about how much less important the regular season has become. And yes, I do realize the playoffs have always been a crapshoot, but getting there wasn't.

It was definitely a meh capper to a good rebound season for MLB. I generally don’t like **** on WS with smaller market and/or non blue blood teams b/c I’m a fan of one that is both. If it were Brewers vs Rangers likely is the same or worse ratings.

I do get the playoff thing though. The format does seem to favor lesser seeds. But I dont know the fix. I like having multiple wild cards and it keeps the season interesting for more teams. The byes seem to not matter but do you make the wild card more of a gauntlet? I think Bob Costas mid season threw out an idea of having Wild Card 5 vs 6 in a 1 game playoff. Winner plays Wild Card 4 in a best of 3. And then the 1 seed can pick playing Wild Card winner or 3rd Division winner. From there its best of 5 in Divisional Round and Best of 7 rest of the way. That wouldn’t alleviate a playing gap but only 1 team in each league would be playing straight through. And then all the division winners get a bye. I don’t know if that is perfect either. I dont ever see them having less teams in the playoffs.

In the end, if letting in 6 teams there is going to always be chance the best teams don’t make it through. So maybe no other idea would be better since they’re never going back to 2-4 teams making it. The problem ratings wise is everyone loves upsets/blue bloods losing until its non sexy Final and everyone is indifferent to the teams. Its like the NCAA tournament. Upsets are great early on until its an Ole Miss, Oregon, Northern Iowa, Purdue final four.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #760 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Nov 3, 2023 11:28 pm

I'm not sure if theres a team in professional sports that I have less feelings about than the Rangers. I don't have any reasons to like or dislike them, they just kind of exist. But hell I've probably gone years at a time without even thinking about their existence.

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