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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#61 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Nov 1, 2023 7:29 pm

Stanford wrote:The Heat were awful in the regular season last year too.


But good enough to be in playoff contention. This year they just let dudes walk without finding any legit replacements.
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Post#62 » by zaz102 » Wed Nov 1, 2023 8:05 pm

I can't imagine in any scenario of Riley letting Butler go to rebuild. I guess it's possible he would trade if they were really struggling and there was a three team scenario with a similar level player but I can't imagine that scenario either. I can't imagine Riley trading him for any of the usual guys mentioned (LaVine, Siakim, OG, etc.).

My completely unrealistic scenario for laughs would be for laughs is that PG/Kawhi ask out. The trade one to Miami, Miami trades Butler to us, and we trade our LAC assets back to LAC.
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Post#63 » by Stanford » Wed Nov 1, 2023 8:10 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Stanford wrote:The Heat were awful in the regular season last year too.


But good enough to be in playoff contention. This year they just let dudes walk without finding any legit replacements.


I'm not going to doubt them until they prove me wrong.
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Post#64 » by Kova » Wed Nov 1, 2023 8:34 pm

From realistic options, I like Siakam on this team. Brings some defense we lost with Tucker gone, and is also very aggressive offensively and will fit Nurse's style nicely. He is also buddies with Embiid.

But to do that, we would likely need to part ways with Tobias.
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Post#65 » by phillynative » Wed Nov 1, 2023 8:56 pm

Kova wrote:From realistic options, I like Siakam on this team. Brings some defense we lost with Tucker gone, and is also very aggressive offensively and will fit Nurse's style nicely. He is also buddies with Embiid.

But to do that, we would likely need to part ways with Tobias.


Where did this Siakim and Embiid are buddies thing come from?. I don't think siakim likes embiid all that much
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Post#67 » by eyeatoma » Wed Nov 1, 2023 11:09 pm

Heard a suggestion by Kyle Neubeck on the PHLY podcast of whether Lauri Markannen made sense. Would love to get him and then get OG this summer.
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Post#68 » by the_process » Thu Nov 2, 2023 2:46 am

eyeatoma wrote:Heard a suggestion by Kyle Neubeck on the PHLY podcast of whether Lauri Markannen made sense. Would love to get him and then get OG this summer.


I take it the deal would have to be something like Harris and 3 1sts for Markkanen and Olynyk.

They would still be in line for something around 30M in cap room.

I would do that.
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Post#69 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:17 am

eyeatoma wrote:Heard a suggestion by Kyle Neubeck on the PHLY podcast of whether Lauri Markannen made sense. Would love to get him and then get OG this summer.


I dont think Lauri and Biid will be good fit, they dont move that much on offense. I also think we’d be handicapped at defense, unless you slide him to the 3 like what Jazz and Cavs did.

OG is OK but he’s just an expensive 3&D guy. I like to get him but at the right price. And I doubt Massai is the type of GM who wants to just accept a fair deal. They say Raps was asking 4 firsts for OG in last year’s deadline. Im not paying that much unless I also get Lavine or Siakam where OG would be that piece that puts me over the top.
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Post#70 » by Black Mage » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:19 am

I am watching Memphis closely. Awful start, not even competitive right now. Who knows what happens with Ja. Small market.

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Post#71 » by eyeatoma » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:27 am

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eyeatoma wrote:Heard a suggestion by Kyle Neubeck on the PHLY podcast of whether Lauri Markannen made sense. Would love to get him and then get OG this summer.


I dont think Lauri and Biid will be good fit, they dont move that much on offense. I also think we’d be handicapped at defense, unless you slide him to the 3 like what Jazz and Cavs did.

OG is OK but he’s just an expensive 3&D guy. I like to get him but at the right price. And I doubt Massai is the type of GM who wants to just accept a fair deal. They say Raps was asking 4 firsts for OG in last year’s deadline. Im not paying that much unless I also get Lavine or Siakam where OG would be that piece that puts me over the top.


Lauri and Embiid would be a perfect fit. Lauri is a mobile big man, who is athletic and can shoot like crazy. Confused by this response haha. He is the antithesis of Tobias. He's not a great defender, but he's an ideal pairing offensively. Maybe like you said slide him at the 3?
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Post#72 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:52 am

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76ciology wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Heard a suggestion by Kyle Neubeck on the PHLY podcast of whether Lauri Markannen made sense. Would love to get him and then get OG this summer.


I dont think Lauri and Biid will be good fit, they dont move that much on offense. I also think we’d be handicapped at defense, unless you slide him to the 3 like what Jazz and Cavs did.

OG is OK but he’s just an expensive 3&D guy. I like to get him but at the right price. And I doubt Massai is the type of GM who wants to just accept a fair deal. They say Raps was asking 4 firsts for OG in last year’s deadline. Im not paying that much unless I also get Lavine or Siakam where OG would be that piece that puts me over the top.


Lauri and Embiid would be a perfect fit. Lauri is a mobile big man, who is athletic and can shoot like crazy. Confused by this response haha. He is the antithesis of Tobias. He's not a great defender, but he's an ideal pairing offensively. Maybe like you said slide him at the 3?


He’s mobile but he’s not springy and doesnt cut or drive at a high volume that you need to play with Biid. You either would make him an expensive Ryan Anderson who just spaces the floor or you would plant him at spots where Joel operates then place Joel around the rim which would tire him out on defense.

Then defensively, its also gonna add more load for Joel to carry. This is unless you slide him at the 3, then you have a Reed-Biid 4&5 duo like the set-up he’s been playing with Cavs (Lauri-Mobley-Allen) or Jazz (Lauri-Collins or Vando-Kessler).

But dont get me wrong, he’s a very good player and I wouldnt mind adding him at the right price. Im just stating my concern with the pairing.

Oh, and you also have to deal with Ainge.
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Post#73 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 2, 2023 3:57 am

Black Mage wrote:I am watching Memphis closely. Awful start, not even competitive right now. Who knows what happens with Ja. Small market.

If Bane were to become available...


JJJ is cheaper. Grizz also has a lot of bigs.
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Post#74 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 2, 2023 7:13 am

Facts:
- We will have $65M of cap space in the offseason
- We can trade 3 first round picks, 3 first round pick swaps and 6 second round picks (saw it on ESPN)
- unless stars asks to be traded, they need to be traded for the entire treasure chest.
- Pascal Siakam is the biggest UFA in the offseason
- OG anunoby has a $18M contract
- Lavine has a $50M contract

My Bold Prediction of what’s LIKELY gonna happen.

We’re not gonna trade for Lavine this season. Because it will make that cap space useless and we need to give up depth to acquire him.

The most likely thing that’s gonna happen is we’re gonna trade for OG Anunoby before the trade deadline for Marcus Morris’ 17M expiring and most likely 4-5 first round picks/pick swaps.

OG and Nurse are familiar with one another so OG would be a seamless injection to the team. We can wait till the deadline to trade for him. The asking price in last season’s deadline was 4 first round picks. We have more than enough, but it doesnt necessarily mean we’re gonna use all of them because we need a back-up plan in the FA.

2023-2024

Maxey/Pat Beverly
Melton/Oubre
OG Anunoby/Roco
Tobias/Batum
Embiid/Reed

After doing that trade we’ll have Tobias and Paul Reed as place holder for Pascal Siakam, who we MIGHT sign in the offseason with our 45M-ish cap space.

Siakam if he makes All-NBA: 52.37mil/5year supermax
Siakam on just a max instead of supermax: 44.89/4year - 202.28mil (including his contract this season 240.17)


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And once we sign Siakam in the offseason.

Tyrese Maxey
Jaden Springer
OG Anunoby
Pascal Siakam
Joel Embiid


If Siakam wont agree to sign with us, I’m guessing we will call the Bulls and absorb Lavine’s contract and add some sweeteners (Springer? Picks? Pick swaps?).

Tyrese Maxey
Zach Lavine
OG Anunoby
Paul Reed
Joel Embiid

I just dont know if Nurse would approve the Maxey-Lavine frontcourt on defense.

There’s also a scenario where we send smoke all over the league that we’re gonna sign Siakam (who else? Klay Thompson?) and use it as leverage, call Massai and tell him to hand us over Siakam and OG with a king’s ransom this offseason while trading players from Clips trade and/or Tobi. Im guessing Massai will ask Tobi because he seems to prefer to acquire guys who can contribute with the rumored Hawks offer for Siakam, the signing of Shroeder and the recent Poetl trade.

Maxey/Beverly
Melton/DHJ/Springer
OG Anunoby/Batum
Pascal Siakam/Roco
Joel Embiid/Reed
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Post#75 » by eyeatoma » Thu Nov 2, 2023 9:03 am

76ciology wrote:
Black Mage wrote:I am watching Memphis closely. Awful start, not even competitive right now. Who knows what happens with Ja. Small market.

If Bane were to become available...


JJJ is cheaper. Grizz also has a lot of bigs.



I'd consider one of JJR or Bane untouchable. I'm not sure who, might be both to be honest.
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Post#76 » by eyeatoma » Thu Nov 2, 2023 9:04 am

76ciology wrote:Facts:
- We will have $65M of cap space in the offseason
- We can trade 3 first round picks, 3 first round pick swaps and 6 second round picks
- unless stars asks to be traded, they need to be traded for the entire treasure chest. So no Ingram, Jimmy or Markanen
- Pascal Siakam is the biggest UFA in the offseason
- OG anunoby has a $18M contract
- Lavine has a $50M contract

My Bold Prediction of what’s LIKELY gonna happen.

We’re not gonna trade for Lavine this season. Because it will make that cap space useless and we need to give up depth to acquire him.

The most likely thing that’s gonna happen is we’re gonna trade for OG Anunoby before the trade deadline for Marcus Morris’ 17M expiring and most likely 4-5 first round picks/pick swaps.

OG and Nurse are familiar with one another so OG would be a seamless injection to the team. We can wait till the deadline to trade for him. The asking price in last season’s deadline was 4 first round picks. We have more than enough, but it doesnt necessarily mean we’re gonna use all of them because we need a back-up plan in the FA.

2023-2024

Maxey/Pat Beverly
Melton/Oubre
OG Anunoby/Roco
Tobias/Batum
Embiid/Reed

After doing that trade we’ll have Tobias and Paul Reed as place holder for Pascal Siakam, who we MIGHT sign in the offseason with our 45M-ish cap space.

And once we sign Siakam in the offseason.

Tyrese Maxey
Jaden Springer
OG Anunoby
Pascal Siakam
Joel Embiid

If Siakam wont agree to sign with us, I’m guessing we will call the Bulls and absorb Lavine’s contract and add some sweeteners (Springer? Picks? Pick swaps?).

Tyrese Maxey
Zach Lavine
OG Anunoby
Paul Reed
Joel Embiid

I just dont know if Nurse would approve the Maxey-Lavine frontcourt on defense.

There’s also a scenario where we send smoke all over the league that we’re gonna sign Siakam (who else? Klay Thompson?) and use it as leverage, call Massai and tell him to hand us over Siakam and OG with a king’s ransom this offseason while trading players from Clips trade and/or Tobi. Im guessing Massai will ask Tobi because he seems to prefer to acquire guys who can contribute with the rumored Hawks offer for Tobi and the Poetl trade.

Maxey/Beverly
Melton/DHJ/Springer
OG Anunoby/Batum
Pascal Siakam/Roco (we give them Korkmaz instead)
Joel Embiid/Reed


If Kyle Neubeck says that Markannen is a possiblity I'm guessing he did his research, and considered it was possible. To get Lauri we would have to trade for him.
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Post#77 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 2, 2023 9:06 am

eyeatoma wrote:
76ciology wrote:Facts:
- We will have $65M of cap space in the offseason
- We can trade 3 first round picks, 3 first round pick swaps and 6 second round picks
- unless stars asks to be traded, they need to be traded for the entire treasure chest. So no Ingram, Jimmy or Markanen
- Pascal Siakam is the biggest UFA in the offseason
- OG anunoby has a $18M contract
- Lavine has a $50M contract

My Bold Prediction of what’s LIKELY gonna happen.

We’re not gonna trade for Lavine this season. Because it will make that cap space useless and we need to give up depth to acquire him.

The most likely thing that’s gonna happen is we’re gonna trade for OG Anunoby before the trade deadline for Marcus Morris’ 17M expiring and most likely 4-5 first round picks/pick swaps.

OG and Nurse are familiar with one another so OG would be a seamless injection to the team. We can wait till the deadline to trade for him. The asking price in last season’s deadline was 4 first round picks. We have more than enough, but it doesnt necessarily mean we’re gonna use all of them because we need a back-up plan in the FA.

2023-2024

Maxey/Pat Beverly
Melton/Oubre
OG Anunoby/Roco
Tobias/Batum
Embiid/Reed

After doing that trade we’ll have Tobias and Paul Reed as place holder for Pascal Siakam, who we MIGHT sign in the offseason with our 45M-ish cap space.

And once we sign Siakam in the offseason.

Tyrese Maxey
Jaden Springer
OG Anunoby
Pascal Siakam
Joel Embiid

If Siakam wont agree to sign with us, I’m guessing we will call the Bulls and absorb Lavine’s contract and add some sweeteners (Springer? Picks? Pick swaps?).

Tyrese Maxey
Zach Lavine
OG Anunoby
Paul Reed
Joel Embiid

I just dont know if Nurse would approve the Maxey-Lavine frontcourt on defense.

There’s also a scenario where we send smoke all over the league that we’re gonna sign Siakam (who else? Klay Thompson?) and use it as leverage, call Massai and tell him to hand us over Siakam and OG with a king’s ransom this offseason while trading players from Clips trade and/or Tobi. Im guessing Massai will ask Tobi because he seems to prefer to acquire guys who can contribute with the rumored Hawks offer for Tobi and the Poetl trade.

Maxey/Beverly
Melton/DHJ/Springer
OG Anunoby/Batum
Pascal Siakam/Roco (we give them Korkmaz instead)
Joel Embiid/Reed


If Kyle Neubeck says that Markannen is a possiblity I'm guessing he did his research, and considered it was possible. To get Lauri we would have to trade for him.


Sure. I dont mind. Who wouldnt want that to happen right?

We also have to monitor this Giannis situation, Bucks might explode soon.
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Post#78 » by 76ciology » Thu Nov 2, 2023 9:11 am

Btw, im wrong. We can trade for Markanen. He only has a 17M per year contract.

We can trade for Markanen and have 45M-ish cap space in the offseason.
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Post#79 » by stormi » Thu Nov 2, 2023 10:21 am

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Embiid <-> Jokic
Maxey <-> Murray
Lauri Bird <-> MPJ
Anunoby <-> Gordon
Springer/Melton/Reed <-> Braun/Strawther/Watson

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Post#80 » by mksp » Thu Nov 2, 2023 11:23 am

Gonna be so depressing to trade all these assets and use all this cap space only to end up with Raptors South.

I guess the good thing for OG + Pascal is they'd get to play with Maxey and not against him.

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