(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Thread - 40K POINTS+(Part 1)(NO INSULTING)

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Post#341 » by MyUniBroDavis » Fri Nov 3, 2023 9:57 pm

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Heej wrote:Traumatized cuz all I think looking at that is "is that good enough to beat Joker"?

Truly hoping all the little lucky factors in the Nuggets favor last series was actually the difference and not the fact that they're simply head and shoulders the better team with the better players.


We were also injured as hell lol

Were we though? Only LeBron was seriously injured as far as I remember. Don't think that turns a sweep into a W. Just means the Lakers get blown out in Game 6 lol


AD and Bron both were, and Dlo forgot how to play basketball lol, I don’t think it changes the result, but as for how we matchup now it depends on how some of our pieces look after they gel a bit more
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Re: The LeBron James - 23-24 Preseason & Regular Season Thread - (Part 1) 

Post#342 » by nzahir » Sat Nov 4, 2023 2:40 am

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We were also injured as hell lol

Were we though? Only LeBron was seriously injured as far as I remember. Don't think that turns a sweep into a W. Just means the Lakers get blown out in Game 6 lol


AD and Bron both were, and Dlo forgot how to play basketball lol, I don’t think it changes the result, but as for how we matchup now it depends on how some of our pieces look after they gel a bit more

I like the Wood addition vs Denver

Just feel like we are still down a piece or even two

Lets see how Dlo plays

Expected more min and better shooting from Christie, but he has barely played, so lets see
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Post#343 » by Heej » Sat Nov 4, 2023 3:01 am

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Heej wrote:Were we though? Only LeBron was seriously injured as far as I remember. Don't think that turns a sweep into a W. Just means the Lakers get blown out in Game 6 lol


AD and Bron both were, and Dlo forgot how to play basketball lol, I don’t think it changes the result, but as for how we matchup now it depends on how some of our pieces look after they gel a bit more

I like the Wood addition vs Denver

Just feel like we are still down a piece or even two

Lets see how Dlo plays

Expected more min and better shooting from Christie, but he has barely played, so lets see

Yea would need DLo to basically be an 18ppg guy vs Denver but that's not happening with KCP on him lmao that's his daddy
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Post#344 » by Heej » Sat Nov 4, 2023 3:26 am

This team is literally never beating Jokic lol he's too good
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Post#345 » by RRR3 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 3:58 am

Heej wrote:This team is literally never beating Jokic lol he's too good

If LeBron was healthy and Ham wasn't a moron that's a close series, I'm not sure what you were watching. Every game was competitive. Granted that was a somewhat different roster.
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Post#346 » by nzahir » Sat Nov 4, 2023 4:55 am

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Heej wrote:This team is literally never beating Jokic lol he's too good

If LeBron was healthy and Ham wasn't a moron that's a close series, I'm not sure what you were watching. Every game was competitive. Granted that was a somewhat different roster.

Yup

I don't think we would have won, but this thing could have easily been a 6 game series

Dlo and Dennis were pretty damn bad

Rui and Reaves were great

AD had good numbers, but wasn't there at times when we needed with

Brons numbers, besides the 3 point shot, were fine but didn't look as good as he was in the reg season

The issue is idk if we have the same Reaves and Rui or not

At the end of the day, it comes down to your best action or two in a close game. Denver has a Jokic and Murray pick and roll with guys like Gordon, MPJ, and Pope to cut or catch and shoot

What do we have? Depending on a poor old Lebron to attack a crowded paint or have AD throw up crap?

Reaves is our best option to close games it seems like. Idk if I fully trust Dlo, I much prefer him in a catch and shoot role or when he takes mostly open 10-15 foot mid range shots. But he sometimes takes some really poor shots for his skill level.

While Reaves was great last year (and he better get back to that or we have no real shot), that isn't the same tier as a Jokic and Murray pick and roll

If the Bulls want to blow it up and we want a big shakeup, Lavine is interesting, but only interested if we can also get Caruso

Would have to be something like Dlo, Vincent, Rui, JHS, 1st, swap

I would include Vando instead of Rui, but unsure if his salary is worth the 5m or the 11M next year

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I forgot to add, Brogdon is a guy that can make a lot of sense for us as well. And even Robert Williams if we want a better option than Hayes and choose to start Wood.

But thats about 33M
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Post#347 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Nov 4, 2023 7:46 am

Heej wrote:This team is literally never beating Jokic lol he's too good


It’s insane how in ur head this man is lol relax :lol:

At the end of the day we did pretty well on him we just gotta figure out how to not get killed by murray now lmao
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Post#348 » by The Master » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:27 am

Heej wrote:This team is literally never beating Jokic lol he's too good

Yeah, unless Jokic/Murray get hurt, Lakers are done as a real 'contender'.

It should be still pretty enjoyable finale of LeBron's career if he can stay healthy, that's the approach I'm gonna cherish this season, because Lakers should be really decent with this depth. I don't see a realistic scenario where then can take this Nuggets team to 7 game-series, not even mentioning winning it.
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Post#349 » by zimpy27 » Sat Nov 4, 2023 8:44 am

Lakers have the pieces.

I'm really liked the fact that Vincent was shooting poorly but still impactful. A big guard defender is what this team needs.

Still keen on Caruso but Gabe might do a good job on Murray.
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Post#350 » by tsherkin » Sat Nov 4, 2023 1:10 pm

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Heej wrote:This team is literally never beating Jokic lol he's too good

Yeah, unless Jokic/Murray get hurt, Lakers are done as a real 'contender'.

It should be still pretty enjoyable finale of LeBron's career if he can stay healthy, that's the approach I'm gonna cherish this season, because Lakers should be really decent with this depth. I don't see a realistic scenario where then can take this Nuggets team to 7 game-series, not even mentioning winning it.



Yeah I mean, that this conversation even exists is a testament to Lebron's longevity. We are speaking of a dude who is gonna turn 39 in like a month and in his 21st season. And the issue isnt "can this guy play 20 mpg and not suck" like the few other guys who have played at that age, but rather "can he exit his conference?"

That's kinda insane.
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Post#351 » by The Master » Sat Nov 4, 2023 1:46 pm

tsherkin wrote: I mean, that this conversation even exists is a testament to Lebron's longevity. We are speaking of a dude who is gonna turn 39 in like a month and in his 21st season. And the issue isnt "can this guy play 20 mpg and not suck" like the few other guys who have played at that age, but rather "can he exit his conference?"

That's kinda insane.

Yeah, indeed. That's why I'm not into false hopes etc. because let's be honest - AD and LeBron were 'healthy' for the first time in 3 years in May and got completely outplayed by Jokic-Murray duo. Yeah, you can argue LeBron wasn't in the best shape physically in the playoffs, but let's be honest, he'll be 39 in a moment, it's not a given that LeBron/AD can reproduce their '23 season, not saying about being actually better.

At this point, Lakers have no star power (Nuggets, maybe Bucks, Clippers, Suns) nor depth (Celtics) to realistically make it happen unless something lucky occurs.

That being said, if Lakers are 'watchable' (not the case in Westbrook era) and healthy (we'll see, LeBron looks fantastic physically) - it's a massive win for me as a fan.

And I'm not saying I don't believe at all in some deep run (things can happen), but I don't think any LeBron fan should have any negative emotions toward what we're seeing if Lakers won't surpass this level of a 'fake contender', and, well, it's very likely they won't.

It's been hell of a run, after all.
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Post#352 » by Heej » Sat Nov 4, 2023 10:36 pm

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Heej wrote:This team is literally never beating Jokic lol he's too good

If LeBron was healthy and Ham wasn't a moron that's a close series, I'm not sure what you were watching. Every game was competitive. Granted that was a somewhat different roster.

6 games at best. That team was outclassed through and through. Jokic is even better this year. It feels LeBrover
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Post#353 » by Heej » Sat Nov 4, 2023 11:04 pm

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Heej wrote:This team is literally never beating Jokic lol he's too good


It’s insane how in ur head this man is lol relax :lol:

At the end of the day we did pretty well on him we just gotta figure out how to not get killed by murray now lmao

Lol I'm saying it because I legit watch the playbacks of these and rewind possessions to see all the butterfly effects. This guy is more deadly than Steph and this team is perfectly built around him. The only way to beat him imo is to use his archetypal Achilles heel, a star shooting and handling PG that annihilates him in PNR or a wing that can kill him on switches and foul him out. IDT AD and Bron pressure him in iso enough to take him out of the game the way Steph or maybe Ja can.

Murray Joker PNR imo is literally the best pick and roll duo in NBA history because both can pass dribble shoot and finish. There's never been a guard and big duo on the same team with zero offensive flaws like them. The only flawless bigs had flawed guards that either can't finish, pass, or shoot; and 99.9% of bigs in NBA history can't do 1 of pass, shoot, or dribble.

I'm just keeping it a buck. No one else in NBA history has ever faced this level of extended all time great competition in every stage of their career except maybe Wilt who went from his supremely stacked era straight into the Kareem era which he snuck one out.

If Bron was a superhero, he would be Batman because he simply has the most extensive rogues gallery of any player to have ever lived. I just think Joker is the Bane that breaks his back after every other adversary wears him down like in that one Batman run that Dark Knight Rises was based on. I'm not expecting the redemption arc tho due to the fact he chose one of the most incompetent modern franchises in the NBA.

You only have a finite pool of resources to build a championship team in the nba and I think they blew too many with the Westbrook trade after getting their pockets ran for AD. Imma stop with the doomer talk tho and let this play out. But I at least thought LeBron was better than Steph so they have a chance to beat the Warriors all throughout 2016. I also thought Steph was a playoff choker and that when push comes to shove even tho LeBron played like he was afraid of Steph to start, he'd dominate Steph in a series.

I feel none of these vs Jokic. He's smarter than LeBron, bigger than LeBron, stronger than LeBron, has more stamina than LeBron, has better teammates than LeBron, and Jokic is the first person in LeBron's entire career that Bron knows is a better player than him. The only thing LeBron has on him is that he's faster. And most of all, Jokic is a playoff riser. He doesn't choke in the playoffs like Steph does. He literally gets better. It's going to take a miracle for them to surpass this team unless this roster steps their s*** up. Imma stop with the doomer talk tho and let their next matchup play out.

But hey, if this is the curtain call then its been a beautiful run and I look forward to seeing the next GOAT level talent that comes in (Wemby?) and appreciating their career instead of being a bitter hater like Jordan and Kobe fans.
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Post#354 » by Heej » Sat Nov 4, 2023 11:42 pm

Take a shot every time the Lakers lose their handle
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Post#355 » by Fadeaway_J » Sat Nov 4, 2023 11:57 pm

Lakers' defensive rebounding has been abominable.
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Post#356 » by RRR3 » Sun Nov 5, 2023 12:06 am

LeBron +7
AD -25


Guys AD is the lakers best player!! Just ignore this happening every game
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Post#357 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Nov 5, 2023 12:16 am

Heej wrote:Take a shot every time the Lakers lose their handle

I decided to take one every time they gave up an easy second chance basket, and now I have alcohol poisoning.

Man it is wild how useless Reddish is offensively. Literally the only thing he does acceptably is make FTs.
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Post#358 » by AEnigma » Sun Nov 5, 2023 12:20 am

Heej wrote:I at least thought LeBron was better than Steph so they have a chance to beat the Warriors all throughout 2016. I also thought Steph was a playoff choker and that when push comes to shove even tho LeBron played like he was afraid of Steph to start, he'd dominate Steph in a series.

I feel none of these vs Jokic. He's smarter than LeBron, bigger than LeBron, stronger than LeBron, has more stamina than LeBron, has better teammates than LeBron, and Jokic is the first person in LeBron's entire career that Bron knows is a better player than him. The only thing LeBron has on him is that he's faster. And most of all, Jokic is a playoff riser. He doesn't choke in the playoffs like Steph does. He literally gets better. It's going to take a miracle for them to surpass this team unless this roster steps their s*** up.

This is pretty fair and accurate in terms of Jokic versus 2023/24 Lebron, but it also brings to mind that infamous Warriors fan comment up 3-1 about Steph taking Lebron's crown. :lol:
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Post#359 » by Heej » Sun Nov 5, 2023 12:57 am

AEnigma wrote:
Heej wrote:I at least thought LeBron was better than Steph so they have a chance to beat the Warriors all throughout 2016. I also thought Steph was a playoff choker and that when push comes to shove even tho LeBron played like he was afraid of Steph to start, he'd dominate Steph in a series.

I feel none of these vs Jokic. He's smarter than LeBron, bigger than LeBron, stronger than LeBron, has more stamina than LeBron, has better teammates than LeBron, and Jokic is the first person in LeBron's entire career that Bron knows is a better player than him. The only thing LeBron has on him is that he's faster. And most of all, Jokic is a playoff riser. He doesn't choke in the playoffs like Steph does. He literally gets better. It's going to take a miracle for them to surpass this team unless this roster steps their s*** up.

This is pretty fair and accurate in terms of Jokic versus 2023/24 Lebron, but it also brings to mind that infamous Warriors fan comment up 3-1 about Steph taking Lebron's crown. :lol:

Lmaooo I would be extremely pleased to be wrong
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Post#360 » by Heej » Sun Nov 5, 2023 1:06 am

Blow this team up lmao. Talented teams don't perform like this
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