ImageImageImage

76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, BullyKing, sixers hoops, Foshan, Sixerscan

Iverson Armband
Analyst
Posts: 3,001
And1: 2,527
Joined: Nov 26, 2020
 

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#381 » by Iverson Armband » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:11 pm

I think BK laughs at that offer personally.
always a jump shot away.
M2J
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,843
And1: 2,004
Joined: Sep 04, 2012

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#382 » by M2J » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:20 am

Iverson Armband wrote:I think BK laughs at that offer personally.


Plus 3 2nds
M2J
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,843
And1: 2,004
Joined: Sep 04, 2012

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#383 » by M2J » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:24 am

ProcessDoctor wrote:Morris, House, 2026 PHI 1st (unp), 2028 LAC 1st (unp), 2028 PHI 1st swap (unp), 2029 PHI 1st (unp) for Mikal Bridges.


Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Bridges/Melton/Korkmaz
Batum/Oubre/Smith
Harris/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Reed/Bamba


We would still have money/option to sign OG and retain one of Tobias/Oubre for the full MLE this summer.


Brooklyn is likely only going to trade him for a player, not assets. However, they should really consider it as he's clearly just a number 3 option.

No top option is going to want to be there if he leaves, so that should just enhance their rebuild.

Also. I And 1 a post regarding Cam Thomas being a great option for Philly, I always get him and Johnson confused. Johnson is a fine option
Sixerscan
Senior Mod - 76ers
Senior Mod - 76ers
Posts: 33,946
And1: 16,328
Joined: Jan 25, 2005

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#384 » by Sixerscan » Wed Nov 8, 2023 12:51 am

I think there was a report that the Nets turned down 4 firsts for Bridges when they traded for Durant. Who knows what the protections were but yeah.


Remember the Nets still owe a bunch of unprotected firsts and swaps to Houston for Harden (lol) they won’t be bottoming out.
User avatar
mjkvol
Head Coach
Posts: 6,830
And1: 6,502
Joined: Apr 13, 2019

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#385 » by mjkvol » Wed Nov 8, 2023 1:44 am

Arsenal wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Who was the 3rd guy on Denver last year? Aaron Gordon or Michael Porter.
On the Warriors the year before? Jordan Poole or Andrew Wiggins

This talk of needing a 3rd guy is overblown. For all his issues Tobias Harris is just as good as any of the guys I just mentioned.

The real key was those teams ran a modern motion offense where everyone shares the ball, cuts, and finds the open man, instead of non-stop stagnant ISO-ball as we did under Glenn.

Now the new coach has put in a similar offense, which should lead to everyone being more effective come playoff time.


You nailed it. The difference between the way this group plays in Nurse's motion offense vs. the dreary, predictable ISO offense of Glenn is immeasurable, and will show itself even more in games where the court shrinks. There's no way to properly judge this team until we see a few games against quality competition, and test #1 is tomorrow night.

You and I have also always agreed on this tiered "star" thing that everyone is obsessed with. Rather than a 3rd "star", I'd prefer we pursue solid role players that fit the system, much like they have done in Denver. Build an 8-9 deep roster with various scoring options that can go that deep in the playoffs, and it mitigates the need for a "3rd star".


Right. Plus I can't believe people are making me defend Assassin as I've been one of his biggest detractors. But that was because of his contract... which has now become a sunk cost.

If he resigns at the right price, he's a valuable player and a more than capable 3rd offensive option in a modern, motion offense like we FINALLY have now.


My issues with Harris went beyond the contract, but at this point, in this system, he is pretty much as good as a lot of the names being bandied about, and we don't have to give anything up. I would be open to resigning him at the right price if no better option is available.
"Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." - Sigmund Freud
ankle420breaker
General Manager
Posts: 9,051
And1: 2,092
Joined: Sep 21, 2005
Location: South Jersey

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#386 » by ankle420breaker » Wed Nov 8, 2023 2:39 am

Sidebar-- anyone going to comment on Embiid's newfound willingness to chase rebounds??

Sent from my SM-S901U using RealGM mobile app
eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,958
And1: 13,210
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#387 » by eyeatoma » Wed Nov 8, 2023 3:59 am

ankle420breaker wrote:Sidebar-- anyone going to comment on Embiid's newfound willingness to chase rebounds??

Sent from my SM-S901U using RealGM mobile app



I'm guessing Nurse got in his ear, and the whole team is being expected to as well. Tyrese had a game or two where he pulled a high number of boards as well.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,344
And1: 27,240
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#388 » by 76ciology » Wed Nov 8, 2023 4:10 am

I wonder if Maxey has taken over Cade Cunningham and Jalen Green in the hierarchy of franchise players.

Currently none of these teams are going to trade one player to another, kind of that time when people wont trade Dwight Howard for LeBron James.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,344
And1: 27,240
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#389 » by 76ciology » Wed Nov 8, 2023 4:14 am

Mikal is not worth the overpay. He’s not playing any defense and his offense is 3rd option-ish.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,344
And1: 27,240
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#390 » by 76ciology » Wed Nov 8, 2023 4:14 am

Almost all teams and Daryl dont trade for stars that their team still has future plans with them. CP3, westbrook and harden.

Specially with the assets we have. Like I said, if its all about assets then Jokic would be playing for the Thunders right now.

You can’t go teams and be like conquistadors and tell them “hey, how about i give you 5 first rounders for your stars. You dont have a shot to win the championship anyway”
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
Iverson Armband
Analyst
Posts: 3,001
And1: 2,527
Joined: Nov 26, 2020
 

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#391 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Nov 8, 2023 4:35 am

76ciology wrote:Almost all teams and Daryl dont trade for stars that their team still has future plans with them. CP3, westbrook and harden.

Specially with the assets we have. Like I said, if its all about assets then Jokic would be playing for the Thunders right now.

You can’t go teams and be like conquistadors and tell them “hey, how about i give you 5 first rounders for your stars. You dont have a shot to win the championship anyway”

I agree. People just like looking at things through the lens of what benefits the Sixers though.
always a jump shot away.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,344
And1: 27,240
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#392 » by 76ciology » Wed Nov 8, 2023 8:08 am

ankle420breaker wrote:Sidebar-- anyone going to comment on Embiid's newfound willingness to chase rebounds??

Sent from my SM-S901U using RealGM mobile app

Most contested offensive rebounds per game:

1. Mitchell Robinson—5.0
2. Rudy Gobert—2.8
3. Zion Williamson—2.5
4. Ausar Thompson—2.4
4. Clint Capela—2.4
4. Nikola Jokic—2.4
7. Anthony Davis—2.3
8. Ivica Zubac—2.2
8. Joel Embiid—2.2
10. Walker Kessler—2.0
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
Doramas
Freshman
Posts: 76
And1: 55
Joined: Nov 03, 2023
       

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#393 » by Doramas » Wed Nov 8, 2023 8:57 am

mjkvol wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Morris, House, 2026 PHI 1st (unp), 2028 LAC 1st (unp), 2028 PHI 1st swap (unp), 2029 PHI 1st (unp) for Mikal Bridges.


Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Bridges/Melton/Korkmaz
Batum/Oubre/Smith
Harris/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Reed/Bamba


We would still have money/option to sign OG and retain one of Tobias/Oubre for the full MLE this summer.


i've always said I can't blame coach Brown for drafting and then trading Bridges. He was in over his head, thanks to collars and Adam Silver. But that trade right there is a monster trade which would make my blood boil. I'm not saying it should not be done but damn.


I love Mikal, but I agree. Not about not blaming Brown for that hideous trade, though. Biggest unforced error of the post-Process period IMO, along with bringing Glenn in here.


For me the worst mistake was trading the Celtics a 2017 first rounder for a third rounder (which materialized in Fultz to Sixers and Tatum to Celtics) and first rounders in 2018 and 2019.
:nod:
Jhawk03
Rookie
Posts: 1,070
And1: 386
Joined: May 23, 2003
Location: Time for a new contract.......

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#394 » by Jhawk03 » Wed Nov 8, 2023 9:46 am

Doramas wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
i've always said I can't blame coach Brown for drafting and then trading Bridges. He was in over his head, thanks to collars and Adam Silver. But that trade right there is a monster trade which would make my blood boil. I'm not saying it should not be done but damn.


I love Mikal, but I agree. Not about not blaming Brown for that hideous trade, though. Biggest unforced error of the post-Process period IMO, along with bringing Glenn in here.


For me the worst mistake was trading the Celtics a 2017 first rounder for a third rounder (which materialized in Fultz to Sixers and Tatum to Celtics) and first rounders in 2018 and 2019.


That was the second worst mistake. The worst mistake was allowing Silver, the powers that be, to pin a singular noun/verb to the now current MVP only after getting rid of the architect of that noun/verb before it being cultivated.
phillynative
General Manager
Posts: 9,572
And1: 3,110
Joined: Dec 13, 2014

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#395 » by phillynative » Wed Nov 8, 2023 10:24 am

eyeatoma wrote:
ankle420breaker wrote:Sidebar-- anyone going to comment on Embiid's newfound willingness to chase rebounds??

Sent from my SM-S901U using RealGM mobile app



I'm guessing Nurse got in his ear, and the whole team is being expected to as well. Tyrese had a game or two where he pulled a high number of boards as well.


Accountability. Nurse coaching staff(rico,jackson, the vets(pat ) aren't going for that.
Doc would allow it so he can preserve energy offensively. :nonono:
Murray_17
RealGM
Posts: 14,082
And1: 14,287
Joined: Mar 20, 2020
   

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#396 » by Murray_17 » Wed Nov 8, 2023 10:56 am

mjkvol wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me if he is a pump-and-dump candidate as we speak. If the Nets are smart, that is.



He's on a rookie contract, is actually difficult to move him for a piece.

Unless the Nets want to unload contracts or get more picks, but no one is gonna take ben's contract which is the worst one they have
User avatar
mjkvol
Head Coach
Posts: 6,830
And1: 6,502
Joined: Apr 13, 2019

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#397 » by mjkvol » Wed Nov 8, 2023 1:00 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me if he is a pump-and-dump candidate as we speak. If the Nets are smart, that is.



He's on a rookie contract, is actually difficult to move him for a piece.

Unless the Nets want to unload contracts or get more picks, but no one is gonna take ben's contract which is the worst one they have


Agree, but if the Nets are going nowhere and can get some team to overpay for Thomas as part of a package with picks. Needing to rebuild and owing as many picks as they do, I could see Marks looking to cash in on the Thomas 'hype' if possible.
"Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." - Sigmund Freud
Doramas
Freshman
Posts: 76
And1: 55
Joined: Nov 03, 2023
       

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#398 » by Doramas » Wed Nov 8, 2023 4:28 pm

There is a lot of talk about the Fowards, but to accompany Maxey in the Guard position a little less so.

My favourites are:
Option A. Marcus Smart
Option B. Dejounte Murray
Option C. Malcolm Brogdon
:nod:
SixthStreet
Starter
Posts: 2,185
And1: 1,842
Joined: May 31, 2018
       

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#399 » by SixthStreet » Wed Nov 8, 2023 4:52 pm

76ciology wrote:I wonder if Maxey has taken over Cade Cunningham and Jalen Green in the hierarchy of franchise players.

Currently none of these teams are going to trade one player to another, kind of that time when people wont trade Dwight Howard for LeBron James.


Maxey is definitely more of a franchise player than Green, who's on the fast track to the wasteland of low efficiency chuckers that don't do anything else. He's a microwave bench scorer on a good team.

I'd trade Maxey for Cunningham today but that could look bad as early as this all star break depending on each's trajectories.
User avatar
ProcessDoctor
RealGM
Posts: 11,697
And1: 6,443
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
   

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#400 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed Nov 8, 2023 5:09 pm

SixthStreet wrote:
76ciology wrote:I wonder if Maxey has taken over Cade Cunningham and Jalen Green in the hierarchy of franchise players.

Currently none of these teams are going to trade one player to another, kind of that time when people wont trade Dwight Howard for LeBron James.


Maxey is definitely more of a franchise player than Green, who's on the fast track to the wasteland of low efficiency chuckers that don't do anything else. He's a microwave bench scorer on a good team.

I'd trade Maxey for Cunningham today but that could look bad as early as this all star break depending on each's trajectories.


It's tight but Cade has legit injury concerns thus far.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome

Return to Philadelphia 76ers