Celtics Stung! Loss vs CHA 11/20

[Darthlukey]

Our Achilles' Heels:

1 - Jaylen is a moron.
2 - Hero-ball in general.
3 - Joe is – at best – a replacement level coach.
4 - Porzingis health.

Jaylen is one of the best finishers in the league. But he should not even have a play called to create. We have more than enough initiators to get him good looks where he can excel

My point stands.

Not disagreeing at all, just agreeing via a compliment sandwich

[165bows]

Jaylen, Jrue and Joe all bad tonight. Jrue has been annoying as **** to watch lately. Turnovers and he isn’t scoring especially well.

Jaylen is always Jaylen, but somehow worse this year. Our 300 million dollar man is honestly unlikely to even sniff an all star game this year.

Almost happened last night, too but this is another classic example of a mazzulla team playing down, disinterested and just shrinking in overtime. 4-9 is he now? Crazy.

Who knew the cog to this whole machine was Derrick White.

Pretty sure that was established a long time ago.

[KillahGhostface]

We are .500 without White. That shows how important White is and how overrated Tatum and Brown are. I said it last year and I will say it again, Tatum and Brown primarily focus on getting their points.

This team is a disaster without Tatum, lumping him and Jaylen together is also weird/lazy.

[zoyathedestroya]

Blow it up. Build around Davison, Walsh, and Flagg.

[Deivork]

Ugly loss obviously, but I'm not too worried about it. Kinda surprised to see the amount! of negativity around here. It was clear they didn't bring it all so it only makes sense. Hornets earned it too.

Maybe the worry is they didn't bring it all, or at least a little bit more. Road trip, White is key and so on... but I don't care about circumstances. This team is stacked enough so none of that shouldn't be excuse. Effort and poise was mostly lacking last night.

I didn't particularly enjoy watching Jayson chuck all night. Yeah he had 46/13/6 on good percentages but we was -5. With Tatum putting these numbers the Cs normally win by 20, so this means to me that this was forced offense and there was little flow (Hauser underutilised too). Tat's so good that he can fool you thinking that's sustainable offense.

Joe & the team believed they could get away with a win like that, but that is predictable offense and no other other than Pritch got going. That is not as much a Jayson problem, but more of a Celtics problem.

Jrue's been off recently, ok, that happens but I don't think he misses those freebies if Joe calls a time-out.

11-3 league leading record. Onto the next.

[KillahGhostface]

Blow it up. Build around Davison, Walsh, and Flagg.

Davison and Walsh’s first name starts with the letter J, let’s lump them together out of laziness, too.

[KillahGhostface]

I didn't particularly enjoy watching Jayson chuck all night. Yeah he had 46/13/6 on good percentages but we was -5. With Tatum putting these numbers the Cs normally win by 20, so this means to me that this was forced offense and there was little flow (Hauser underutilised too)

Hauser was 1-9 from three lol.

Tatum had 6 assists, and could have easily had had 10, as he had 15 potential assists. He should have shot less, even though he was one of the two guys who was able to score the ball? He was -5 because he shared the court with three guys who were -23 or worse in KP, Hauser, and Jaylen.

What is happening.

[BrianFitz]

Celtics would have won this one last year.

I'm sure I'm not the first to have said it in the thread.

Brown - absolute trash. I was so happy when he had to go out with foul trouble. Too bad he didn't get a quick 6th foul, Boston might have won.

Jrue - everyone's favorite new binky on this site - I bet Marcus wouldn't have missed 2 free throws to ice the game.

[Deivork]

I didn't particularly enjoy watching Jayson chuck all night. Yeah he had 46/13/6 on good percentages but we was -5. With Tatum putting these numbers the Cs normally win by 20, so this means to me that this was forced offense and there was little flow (Hauser underutilised too)

Hauser was 1-9 from three lol.

Tatum had 6 assists, and could have easily had double digits. He should have shot less, even though he was one of the two guys who was able to score the ball?

Come on bud.

Just my opinion. You make a good point but I think it's more complex. It's not a about blaming but analyzing. Tatum had a couple stinkers so from minute 1 team made an effort to get him going (normally Jaylen takes the load in the 1st quarter). Jrue, Brown or KP never were seemed involved/motivated enough. Hauser's role as a starter also seemed to put him off but he got very few looks in the first half.

Again, not trying to blame Jayson or make excuses for the rest. Circumstances were different yesterday and the team didn't show enough capacity to adapt. Everyone's responsible in my eyes, but it is Joe for the most part.

[darrendaye]

I've restrained my posting early this season because I know I hold a dissenting opinion about the Jrue trade and it clouds my perspective somewhat. I am giving it a quarter season to see where rotations go and chemistry develops. I like the increased usage of post-ups on offense, but not the lack of weakside action when doing so. And I feel the big 4 aren't playing off each other enough on offense. But then again, I also dissent on using them together to start games, so there is bias on my part there too.

[darrendaye]

I didn't particularly enjoy watching Jayson chuck all night. Yeah he had 46/13/6 on good percentages but we was -5. With Tatum putting these numbers the Cs normally win by 20, so this means to me that this was forced offense and there was little flow (Hauser underutilised too)

Hauser was 1-9 from three lol.

Tatum had 6 assists, and could have easily had double digits. He should have shot less, even though he was one of the two guys who was able to score the ball? He was -5 because he shared the court with three guys who were -23 or worse in KP, Hauser, and Jaylen.

What is happening.

I've been perplexed about why Brissett has been kept under wraps.

[KillahGhostface]

Yeah, I may need to log out for a few weeks before I get sent back to the realgm nether realm lol.

[jonige94]

Stevens has done a terrible job building that bench.

[zoyathedestroya]

The offense has been mid the past two weeks, per CTG. Defense is what's kept us in games though defense is what failed us in the last two minutes of regulation last night when we were missing jumpers/layups/FTs.

[31to6]

Stevens has done a terrible job building that bench.

Bench handed the starters a 4th quarter lead last night that they couldn’t hold on to.

[chrisab123]

Happens. Not sure why we expect they'll always beat bad teams.

[chrisab123]

Celtics would have won this one last year.

I'm sure I'm not the first to have said it in the thread.

Brown - absolute trash. I was so happy when he had to go out with foul trouble. Too bad he didn't get a quick 6th foul, Boston might have won.

Jrue - everyone's favorite new binky on this site - I bet Marcus wouldn't have missed 2 free throws to ice the game.

I mean sure...but Marcus probably has a better shot of shooting 1-11 from 3 point range too. Marcus was a solid role player, Jrue is an all star. I'm not sure why we continue to compare the two.

[Fierce1]

Celtics would have won this one last year.

I'm sure I'm not the first to have said it in the thread.

Brown - absolute trash. I was so happy when he had to go out with foul trouble. Too bad he didn't get a quick 6th foul, Boston might have won.

Jrue - everyone's favorite new binky on this site - I bet Marcus wouldn't have missed 2 free throws to ice the game.

That's true!

Smart would've at least made 1 FT.

Jrue is the reason why Cs lost in regulation.

JB is to blame for the OT loss.

Joe did nothing wrong in this game.

[KillahGhostface]

The insane on/off’s are falling too fast for my liking </3

[CelticsPride18]

Stevens has done a terrible job building that bench.

Bench handed the starters a 4th quarter lead last night that they couldn’t hold on to.

Kind of weird game to blame the bench.