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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#701 » by HoopsterJones » Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:06 pm

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Post#702 » by Almost Retired » Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:59 pm

The Bears need to move on from Eddie Jackson after the season. I'd really like to see the Bears draft James Williams out of Miami. A real unicorn for a safety. He even plays a little outside linebacker. Looking at the draft ratings right now he should be on the board with our 3rd round picks.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#703 » by Bulls69 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:27 pm

Almost Retired wrote:The Bears need to move on from Eddie Jackson after the season. I'd really like to see the Bears draft James Williams out of Miami. A real unicorn for a safety. He even plays a little outside linebacker. Looking at the draft ratings right now he should be on the board with our 3rd round picks.

Yes please move off of Eddie get a safety that is not afraid to tackle


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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#704 » by Chi town » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:40 pm

Bulls69 wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:The Bears need to move on from Eddie Jackson after the season. I'd really like to see the Bears draft James Williams out of Miami. A real unicorn for a safety. He even plays a little outside linebacker. Looking at the draft ratings right now he should be on the board with our 3rd round picks.

Yes please move off of Eddie get a safety that is not afraid to tackle


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We need to draft a safety and sign a vet safety.

Get me Sebastian Castro from Iowa. Kid is an IQ genius reading the QB and breaking on the ball.

Brisker hasn’t done anything all season.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#705 » by Chi town » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:41 pm

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CjayC wrote:This dude isn't real, and this is all a simulation. I refuse to believe it. :lol:

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He’s campaigning to keep his job… which will be his undoing.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#706 » by Almost Retired » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:30 pm

Chi town wrote:
HoopsterJones wrote:
CjayC wrote:This dude isn't real, and this is all a simulation. I refuse to believe it. :lol:

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What a clown


He’s campaigning to keep his job… which will be his undoing.


Funny clip of Mike Greenberg on ESPN saying the Bears should have begged Harbaugh to get on the plane with them after the Detroit game. He might be open to a move back to the NFL to coach his old team after the controversy and suspension. I think he'd be successful, but he would probably want significant input into personnel and drafting decisions. Could Poles agree to that?
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#707 » by HearshotKDS » Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:04 pm

Almost Retired wrote:The Bears need to move on from Eddie Jackson after the season. I'd really like to see the Bears draft James Williams out of Miami. A real unicorn for a safety. He even plays a little outside linebacker. Looking at the draft ratings right now he should be on the board with our 3rd round picks.

James Williams is an interesting project but seems like the type of jumbo safety that often busts at the NFL level. There is a ton of young talent at S that is scheduled to hit FA (until they arent!) for next year that Bears should look at:

Geno Stone - https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/geno-stone/55967 - Hes playing at an allpro level and probably get resigned but until then this is the ferrari of the class

Jordan Whitehead - https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jordan-whitehead/49196 - Very good safety NYJ he might actually see market given Jets cap

Julian Blackmon - https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/julian-blackmon/49434 - Very very good safety IND will also have a ton of choices to make WRT cap this offseason and maybe he gets let loose

Kyle Dugger - https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kyle-dugger/90621 - Patriots have a zillion in cap space but maybe they decide to rebuild without an OK safety who will be 28 YO next year?

All of the above are younger and better than Eddie Jackson and if the Bears could snag any of the above it would be a win.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#708 » by madvillian » Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:21 pm

Almost Retired wrote:The Bears need to move on from Eddie Jackson after the season. I'd really like to see the Bears draft James Williams out of Miami. A real unicorn for a safety. He even plays a little outside linebacker. Looking at the draft ratings right now he should be on the board with our 3rd round picks.


On the Williams TD you can see Jackson completely unready to try and run with one of the fastest guys in the league, if not the fastest in a straight line. He was completely clowned. He will get dogged for that film and honestly on a better team he'd be replaced with someone that is ready to give effort.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#709 » by Almost Retired » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:03 pm

madvillian wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:The Bears need to move on from Eddie Jackson after the season. I'd really like to see the Bears draft James Williams out of Miami. A real unicorn for a safety. He even plays a little outside linebacker. Looking at the draft ratings right now he should be on the board with our 3rd round picks.


On the Williams TD you can see Jackson completely unready to try and run with one of the fastest guys in the league, if not the fastest in a straight line. He was completely clowned. He will get dogged for that film and honestly on a better team he'd be replaced with someone that is ready to give effort.


And the fact that cutting him saves about $13 million is just an added bonus. Combine that with cutting Whitehair and that just adds up salary cap space for the next free agency period. If we use our draft capital wisely, sign some key free agents that are not on the downhill side of their career, and replace the coaching staff I think we can turn the team's fortunes around. So there is still reason for optimism. Unfortunately not so for the Bulls.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#710 » by biggestbullsfan » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:05 pm

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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#711 » by Kurt Heimlich » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:12 pm

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NFL contracts are so ridiculously convoluted that I have never bothered to try to understand them. But he signed a massive deal 2 years ago with a lot of money left on it. Can't imagine anyone will claim his waiver and that contract, right?
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#712 » by biggestbullsfan » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:16 pm

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Yea no chance of this lol :lol:
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Post#713 » by TheJordanRule » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:23 pm

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Yea no chance of this lol :lol:


Why not? The game’s best inside linebacker? Dump Edmunds.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#714 » by HearshotKDS » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:27 pm

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NFL contracts are so ridiculously convoluted that I have never bothered to try to understand them. But he signed a massive deal 2 years ago with a lot of money left on it. Can't imagine anyone will claim his waiver and that contract, right?

He is having a real down year, some team might pick him up as a 1 year rental for $6M but since he has no garaunteed money after that they almost certainly cut him loose after this season.

Tremaine Edmunds is looking like a pretty bad contract right now, Leonard isnt playing better than Edmunds and is slated to make even more for some comparison perspective.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#715 » by mack2354 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:21 pm

What are the odds of keeping Luke Getsy since Fields has shown some success in this scheme but bringing in a new Head Coach to call the actual plays and revamp the defense?

I'm sure most Head coaches would prefer their own staff but I'd rather not have Fields learn a new system if we decide to keep him. I like the idea of Lovie Smith, John Harbough and some of the others mentioned but I'm not sure how often a new Coach keeps the previous offensive coordinator.

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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#716 » by HoopsterJones » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:29 pm

mack2354 wrote:What are the odds of keeping Luke Getsy since Fields has shown some success in this scheme but bringing in a new Head Coach to call the actual plays and revamp the defense?

I'm sure most Head coaches would prefer their own staff but I'd rather not have Fields learn a new system if we decide to keep him. I like the idea of Lovie Smith, John Harbough and some of the others mentioned but I'm not sure how often a new Coach keeps the previous offensive coordinator.

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This never happens unless they fire the HC and promote the OC to head coach which happened a few times like Jason Garrett in DAL and Dirk Koetter in TB. Didn’t work out too well both times.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#717 » by fleet » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:18 pm

mack2354 wrote:What are the odds of keeping Luke Getsy since Fields has shown some success in this scheme but bringing in a new Head Coach to call the actual plays and revamp the defense?

I'm sure most Head coaches would prefer their own staff but I'd rather not have Fields learn a new system if we decide to keep him. I like the idea of Lovie Smith, John Harbough and some of the others mentioned but I'm not sure how often a new Coach keeps the previous offensive coordinator.


There’s not a lot of Getsy offense in what they are running for Fields. Big game hunter plays, and designed runs. Bagent ran the Getsy stuff a lot. The timing routes designed for YAC. Something tells me that if Fields stays, Getsy won’t be here. If Getsy stays, Fields won’t be here. There is a line of thought that they are currently turning the Fields package loose to display him to other teams that might want to totally run Fields ball.

I read commentary that Detroit’s defense was more amenable to Fields doing well. It will be interesting down the stretch to see how a defense that runs more zone concepts than Detroit runs (such as the Vikings) will fare against Fields compared to the Lions. Detroit ran more man coverage. Fields obviously did well against that, which is his wheelhouse. Zone stuff is when he struggles more.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#718 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:14 pm

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mack2354 wrote:What are the odds of keeping Luke Getsy since Fields has shown some success in this scheme but bringing in a new Head Coach to call the actual plays and revamp the defense?

I'm sure most Head coaches would prefer their own staff but I'd rather not have Fields learn a new system if we decide to keep him. I like the idea of Lovie Smith, John Harbough and some of the others mentioned but I'm not sure how often a new Coach keeps the previous offensive coordinator.


There’s not a lot of Getsy offense in what they are running for Fields. Big game hunter plays, and designed runs. Bagent ran the Getsy stuff a lot. The timing routes designed for YAC. Something tells me that if Fields stays, Getsy won’t be here. If Getsy stays, Fields won’t be here. There is a line of thought that they are currently turning the Fields package loose to display him to other teams that might want to totally run Fields ball.

I read commentary that Detroit’s defense was more amenable to Fields doing well. It will be interesting down the stretch to see how a defense that runs more zone concepts than Detroit runs (such as the Vikings) will fare against Fields compared to the Lions. Detroit ran more man coverage. Fields obviously did well against that, which is his wheelhouse. Zone stuff is when he struggles more.


Yeah, there's a lot of season left to play. Should be interesting to see how it develops.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#719 » by JockItch43 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:25 am

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mack2354 wrote:What are the odds of keeping Luke Getsy since Fields has shown some success in this scheme but bringing in a new Head Coach to call the actual plays and revamp the defense?

I'm sure most Head coaches would prefer their own staff but I'd rather not have Fields learn a new system if we decide to keep him. I like the idea of Lovie Smith, John Harbough and some of the others mentioned but I'm not sure how often a new Coach keeps the previous offensive coordinator.


There’s not a lot of Getsy offense in what they are running for Fields. Big game hunter plays, and designed runs. Bagent ran the Getsy stuff a lot. The timing routes designed for YAC. Something tells me that if Fields stays, Getsy won’t be here. If Getsy stays, Fields won’t be here. There is a line of thought that they are currently turning the Fields package loose to display him to other teams that might want to totally run Fields ball.

I read commentary that Detroit’s defense was more amenable to Fields doing well. It will be interesting down the stretch to see how a defense that runs more zone concepts than Detroit runs (such as the Vikings) will fare against Fields compared to the Lions. Detroit ran more man coverage. Fields obviously did well against that, which is his wheelhouse. Zone stuff is when he struggles more.



Unless they think this staff is the long term answer, which I’d question their competency if so, you’d almost have to start with a clean slate if you bring in a new QB. This whole start a rookie QB with the old staff and fire them a year later routine we’ve been doing is a great way to continually screwing up the development of a young QB. You’d think they’d learn after doing the exact same thing with Mitch and Justin… but who am I kidding this is the Bears we are talking about.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#720 » by Chi town » Wed Nov 22, 2023 12:55 am

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mack2354 wrote:What are the odds of keeping Luke Getsy since Fields has shown some success in this scheme but bringing in a new Head Coach to call the actual plays and revamp the defense?

I'm sure most Head coaches would prefer their own staff but I'd rather not have Fields learn a new system if we decide to keep him. I like the idea of Lovie Smith, John Harbough and some of the others mentioned but I'm not sure how often a new Coach keeps the previous offensive coordinator.


There’s not a lot of Getsy offense in what they are running for Fields. Big game hunter plays, and designed runs. Bagent ran the Getsy stuff a lot. The timing routes designed for YAC. Something tells me that if Fields stays, Getsy won’t be here. If Getsy stays, Fields won’t be here. There is a line of thought that they are currently turning the Fields package loose to display him to other teams that might want to totally run Fields ball.

I read commentary that Detroit’s defense was more amenable to Fields doing well. It will be interesting down the stretch to see how a defense that runs more zone concepts than Detroit runs (such as the Vikings) will fare against Fields compared to the Lions. Detroit ran more man coverage. Fields obviously did well against that, which is his wheelhouse. Zone stuff is when he struggles more.


Bingo. He has sucked against the zone because you have to anticipate.

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